DIY video: installed fuel gauge on Valk standard

[Lyonardo]

I've seen a few bikes on this site that have Joop's gadgets installed.
Here's my in depth video of me checking out the fuel gauge system, and getting it installed on the bike.

I'm still deciding on the front fairing I plan to install. Once I get it, I'll relocate all of my instruments.

https://youtu.be/AwRaa-37UP4
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[The emperor has no clothes]

That was pretty cool  I hadn't heard of fuel gauges that worked like that. Thanks for posting that 

[IamGCW]

Very nice.  I would love to hear of long term testing results for the fuel gauge. 

Gil

[salty1]

Great mod! Nice bike also! Looks like he had to put with some rain or the lawn sprinkler.   

[EddyH]

Nice. I looked at his website but couldn't find any prices. How much did the setup cost you?

Thanks, Ed

[Lyonardo]

Great mod! Nice bike also! Looks like he had to put with some rain or the lawn sprinkler.   

Yeah, I have a workspace in the basement but didn't feel like moving the car. Plus, my Seahawks were playing so I kept running back inside to check the score! 

[Lyonardo]

Nice. I looked at his website but couldn't find any prices. How much did the setup cost you?

Thanks, Ed

It's probably best to just email Joop and see if he can build you one. I'm not sure if he considers this a business or a hobby. You can tell him I sent you his way.
Plus, he posts the schematics and parts list on his site in case you want to build your own, which I think is pretty damn cool.

[BonS]

I've considered designing one as well. But after carefully reading Joop's instructions (that are available online) I have declined. Personally, I'm concerned with the required installation procedure and durability of the fragile pressure sensor. There are strict requirements for bleeding out all the air in the line (to get a true reading) that require venting gasoline at the bottom of the installed tubing. Also, simply plugging the pressure sensor into the tubing with the petcock closed may cause damage. Joop may be simply conveying an abundance of caution about the sensor but if it's that fragile then it may be hard to live with and not damage it inadvertently during routine servicing. Also simply running out of gas will reintroduce air in the lines and the gauge will not indicate properly until the lines are again bleed free of air.

Don't get me wrong, I like Joop. I'm just not sure that this product is practical and durable over the long run. I certainly give him a "A" for effort!

[Lyonardo]

I've considered designing one as well. But after carefully reading Joop's instructions (that are available online) I have declined. Personally, I'm concerned with the required installation procedure and durability of the fragile pressure sensor. There are strict requirements for bleeding out all the air in the line (to get a true reading) that require venting gasoline at the bottom of the installed tubing. Also, simply plugging the pressure sensor into the tubing with the petcock closed may cause damage. Joop may be simply conveying an abundance of caution about the sensor but if it's that fragile then it may be hard to live with and not damage it inadvertently during routine servicing. Also simply running out of gas will reintroduce air in the lines and the gauge will not indicate properly until the lines are again bleed free of air.

Don't get me wrong, I like Joop. I'm just not sure that this product is practical and durable over the long run. I certainly give him a "A" for effort!

Yeah, I talked about that in the video: both the designer's warnings, and my own thoughts on the physics behind it.
It seems to me that bleeding the fuel line for this project is basically the same as needing to bleed my brake or clutch line.
Bottom line, I just made a vid of my own installation, and provided the link to the maker's site.
I'm definitely not trying to sell anyone on doing it for their own bike. Just providing info.
By the way, I did let it run out of gas, then switched over to the reserve before filling up. Not recommended, but I wanted to test a "real world" scenario.

[BonS]

I definitely want to hear about your impressions and experiences with your gas gauge. It's a cool idea. I'd like to make one someday that will work with any gas gauge and work around the existing limitations. Please do share your thoughts as you're the only person that has tried it that I know of. 

[DK]

My Tourer trike has such a direct, proportional & sudden relationship between odometer mileage & fuel remaining that, for me, a gauge would be redundant, i.e., @ 100 miles, start looking for gas. For me, I'd rather have a belly tank followed by temp., amperage, & oil pressure gauges.

Dan

[IamGCW]

Nice. I looked at his website but couldn't find any prices. How much did the setup cost you?

Thanks, Ed

I emailed Joop and received the following.  Prices are in euro's so conversion is required.

Gil



These are the cost:

All items are for the Valkyrie only.
Handmade in the Netherland's:


Valkyrie Fuel gauge system:
No floating sensor needed.
No drilling into the tank.

Electronic box with cables, T-pice and fuel line with Motosens analog fuel gauge -  180 Euro
***New***  Electronic box with cables, T-pice and fuel line with micro-controlled steppermotor gauge - 220 Euro

Aditional:
Shipment Europa- 10 Euro
Shipment World -  24 Euro
Handlebar Bracket-  25 Euro
Paypal cost- 4% of the total cost
IBAN free

info: www.joopangelier.nl/download/Benzinemeter/Versie-3/Manual/

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Valkyrie Gear indicator analog: 155 Euro
Trike version 185 Euro

Aditional:
Shipment Europa- 10 Euro
Shipment World -  24 Euro
Handlebar bracket-  25 Euro
Paypal cost- 4% of the total cost
IBAN free

 info: www.joopangelier.nl/download/Versnellings%20indicator%20Valkyrie/Analoog/Englisch/

Not for sale at the moment. New version comming soon!!!!!!
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Valkyrie Relais board:  85 Euro

Aditional:
Shipment Europa- 10 Euro
Shipment World - 24 Euro
Paypal cost- 4% of the total cost
IBAN free

info: www.joopangelier.nl/download/Relais%20sturing/Manual/


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Blinker alarm: 85 Euro

Aditional:
Shipment Europa- 10 Euro
Shipment World - 24 Euro
Paypal cost- 4% of the total cost
IBAN free

info: http://www.joopangelier.nl/download/Knipperlicht/Manual/Englisch/

New update in about 4 weeks!!!!

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Fuel gauge analog with steppermotor 74,90 Euro
Fuel gauge analog from Motosens  50,00 Euro
Voltmeter analog with steppermotor 74,90 Euro ex cable (5 Euro)
Temp gauge celsius with steppermotor 74,90 Euro ex cable (10 Euro), ex Sensor(25Euro) and adapter(15Euro)

Handlebar Bracket 25 Euro

[Bagger John - #3785]

My Tourer trike has such a direct, proportional & sudden relationship between odometer mileage & fuel remaining that, for me, a gauge would be redundant, i.e., @ 100 miles, start looking for gas. For me, I'd rather have a belly tank followed by temp., amperage, & oil pressure gauges.

Dan

I have a CA-model '99 Tourer; its tank was replaced with an I/S tank and sender unit that I mated to an LED bar-graph fuel gauge. Pilot jets are #38s, Cobra adjustable jet needles, I/S carb springs and an I/S ICM round out the modifications. Bike's emission controls, cams and exhaust are completely stock.

Riding 70MPH on the freeway with this setup and approximately 450lbs of rider/passenger, luggage and accessories aboard I can go 220mi from full before needing to flip the petcock to the Reserve position. There's another 60mi left in the tank before going bone dry.

The gauge I used tracks very accurately - moreso than the stock unit on my I/S. When the last segment - red - is the only one illuminated it's time to fill up RFN. Contrast that to the I/S where I may have another two gallons left in the tank.

[John Lane]

Spotted you and that GREAT bike headed east on Holgate St in Seattle couple of months back. You were waiting for the RR crossing gate in front of the Locomotive shop at Amtrak where I work. If you would have looked over your right shoulder behind you against the office you would have seen my black tourer parked there. Go Seahawks!!!

[Lyonardo]

You have a good eye for bikes, and a good memory my friend.
I was headed to the Cash and Carry on 4th.
I'll keep an eye out for your Interstate when I'm in SODO.
L

[joop angelier]

Hello USA Valkyrie Riders.

This is Joop from the Netherlands.
I have been a member of this club for many years now.
I am also a moderator on the Dutch Valkyrie forum.

Producing electronics for the Valkyrie is not a business but a hobby for me.
At first i only made the instuments for my own 1998 Valkyrie Standard.
But then i thought of making them available for other members of the Valkyrie Riders Cruiser Club.
But is't not a commercial product.

The fuel gauge system has been made for about 5 years now.
As far as i know all are working well at this moment.
Warnings in the manual are there because the sensor has a maximum pressure.
Under normal driving conditions this pressure is not possible.
But during installation some people did damage the sensor.
When installing as in the manual there will be no problem.

Check out my webside: http://www.joopangelier.nl/pagina3eng.html

Greetings Joop


 

[signart]

That gear indicator is pretty sweet, keeps you from trying to gab "6th".

[Lyonardo]

That gear indicator is pretty sweet, keeps you from trying to gab "6th".

Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting one of those gear indicators.

[mark81]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting one of those gear indicators.

please let us know how it turns out, loved the video cant wait to see the next installment in the series

[Lyonardo]

Hello USA Valkyrie Riders.

This is Joop from the Netherlands.
I have been a member of this club for many years now.
I am also a moderator on the Dutch Valkyrie forum.

Producing electronics for the Valkyrie is not a business but a hobby for me.
At first i only made the instuments for my own 1998 Valkyrie Standard.
But then i thought of making them available for other members of the Valkyrie Riders Cruiser Club.
But is't not a commercial product.

The fuel gauge system has been made for about 5 years now.
As far as i know all are working well at this moment.
Warnings in the manual are there because the sensor has a maximum pressure.
Under normal driving conditions this pressure is not possible.
But during installation some people did damage the sensor.
When installing as in the manual there will be no problem.

Check out my webside: http://www.joopangelier.nl/pagina3eng.html

Greetings Joop


 

Hey Joop, I'm glad you chimed in to clarify.
My bike has a lot of mods, and the fuel gauge is definitely the most useful.