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Not once but twice? I wonder how much more they have? I would have linked to a site other than Fox, but they don't seem to cover things like this. ??? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549241,00.html |
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 08:33:11 AM » |
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Unfortunately there is a bit of Niccolo Machiavelli in all of us (both conservatives and liberals). Many of us have an amazing capacity to ignore (or conveniently filter) reality so that the end justifies the means. Acorn is certainly the albatross that many liberals have amazingly managed to dismiss as irrelevant in their quest for power.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 09:16:29 AM » |
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Just curious, should the actions of a few individuals define the view of an organization?
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 09:23:50 AM » |
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Not if it were just a FEW individuals. When its an entire corrupt organization intent on swinging a vote on a national level... Thats hard to ignore.
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2009, 09:35:38 AM » |
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It's just a guess, but I'll bet since this was done in July and not release until now... And then... Release one yesterday, and another one today? I'll bet there is more to come.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 09:56:07 AM » |
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Just curious, should the actions of a few individuals define the view of an organization? [/quote/] I'm thinking you like to just go against what everyone is saying, Scanner... I dated a girl like that once  |
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 10:04:28 AM » |
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The ACORN nuts will get away with 99% of the fraud....they are Obama's "pets"
What they do when they get caught is they throw the individuals in the limelight under the bus and pretend that the rest of the organization is all above board. And sure Obama was their chief lawyer so hes not going to let any investigation go very deep........if the fraud is not exposed it doesnt exist, right?!?
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2009, 11:12:07 AM » |
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Just curious, should the actions of a few individuals define the view of an organization?
I not sure what constitutes a "few individuals", regardless it becomes merely academic, because I doubt even if we could come up with an actual number that it would alter either of our opinions of the organization. The fact the founder of ACORN, Wade Rathke allowed his brother to steal $1 million dollars from the organization and not prosecute, coupled with numerous other incidents; suggests to me that the integrity of this organization is questionable from top to bottom. However I think yours is a rhetorical question, even though you and I disagree on many philosophical issues I respect your intelligence enough to know that you already know the answer to that question. Even though we both probably agree that the appropriate answer to that question should be no; in the politically charged, divided country we now live the "defacto" answer appears to be an overwhelming yes. Not only can it just be the actions of a few individuals, it can simply be a single phrase from a single individual that when purposely taken out of context provides the fertile grounds for political opportunism that demagogues on both sides of the aisle exploit. Remember Rush Limbaugh's "I want the president to fail" quote? We both can cite examples to support our cases, but to be quite honest I don't see the need to bother. At the end of the day, we will both find a way to support our ideological beliefs. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 12:16:28 PM » |
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Now Jim, you may just have to tone that down a bit! I'm not sure that everyone in this conversation can understand what is being said...JTL  |
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 12:23:10 PM » |
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Now Jim, you may just have to tone that down a bit! I'm not sure that everyone in this conversation can understand what is being said...JTL A lot easier to understand than when you Pharmacists have a discussion!  |
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2009, 06:48:40 AM » |
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2009, 08:36:06 AM » |
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Just curious, should the actions of a few individuals define the view of an organization?
God forbid that should happen.... Can you imagine if someone outside the VRCC were to read a few liberal, socalist or anti conservative comments on this message board and then define the whole group as such??? ??? Thank god we have a balance of political bashing to keep it on a more even keel.  Just like Darkside and Anti Darkside, Synthetic and Dyno Oil debates..... |
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2009, 09:15:17 AM » |
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looks like a couple law makers calling for a complete investigation, now that the amount of $$ ACORN has gotten from the taxpayers is adding up and the likelihood its being given away fraudulently is increasing. I hope they just "can" the whole ugly mess.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2009, 07:23:46 AM » |
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Voting going well in the Senate to cut off tax payer $$ to ACORN.......lets hope it goes as well in the House. Maybe then we can lobby to finish a thorough investigation and put the crooks behind bars ALL OF THEM
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2009, 02:12:40 PM » |
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Holy COW! Wait till you see the New California Acorn Videos!! Murder. Disguise the brothel as a school!?? Holy crap!!
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 03:29:43 PM » |
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that's the funniest one yet!
I was completely fine with her killing her ex due to abuse, until she started saying she had set up her whole case in advance. And was pretty much bragging about it.
It's amazing how ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN can cause so many problems to a huge organization like ACORN.
This guy and his partner are my new heroes of the week!
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 04:23:52 PM » |
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Acorn, what a fine bunch of individuals  . I just can't understand why this isn't in my newspaper, or why it hasn't been on the evening news. Like for instance abc, cbs, nbc. Maybe it has and I have missed it. Weird. adios fast black |
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2009, 04:32:32 PM » |
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G.E. ABC-CBS-NBC-CNN-MSLSD 20-20 60 minutes WTF!! 2 kids have the courage to help save AMERICA WOW. They have just scratched the surface. And the Main stream media said DC had at least 3 hundred or more people 9-12-09 They will destroy themselves with their own words. BTW Watch the stock market next 90 days.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 06:18:12 PM » |
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Just heard a tape of Charlie Gibson, head man on the news, say he had never even heard of any of these scandals! WTF!
One of the big three news, and he has not heard of it?
Tells a lot about the left leaning media.
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 11:45:58 PM » |
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How was President Obama supposed to know how corrupt they were...he didnt have ANY IDEA about the corruption in Illinois. Besides...His Acorn involvement was very little.....  |
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2009, 12:13:14 AM » |
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There has NEVER ever been any one person or organization in politics honest or decent to ever come out of Illinois. Not ever, not once.
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2009, 12:04:01 PM » |
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looks like cnn picked up the story. although they make it sound like in their news video that they were on it all along.
Something like "a 4th video has surfaced..."
Not sure if they reported on the other 3, though.
I couldn't find any references to the other 3 on CNN, but that doesn't mean they didn't do a news story on them.
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2009, 11:44:26 PM » |
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Did you see the latest in San Diego? The acorn guy offered to bring in the under age girls thru Tiajuana using his connections! I think the so called mainstream media can't ignore this much longer. Pulitzer prize should go to those two kids exposing all this! JMHO hoser |
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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2009, 05:00:38 AM » |
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"Oh but its just a couple bad employees" Ya, right......The two that played the pimp and the prostitute said there was not one ACORN office that refused to help them start a felony prostitution ring. NOT one from CA to DC and a few places inbetween......ya, let them squirm out of this one
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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2009, 06:18:21 AM » |
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Just curious, should the actions of a few individuals define the view of an organization?
Your words are soooo funny. You seem to blast, label, belittle, based on views. Are there two standards you operate on Scanner? One for you to bash with and another to support your views. You speak with a forked tongue as my Indian pals would say. |
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2009, 06:29:48 AM » |
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"Oh but its just a couple bad employees" Ya, right......The two that played the pimp and the prostitute said there was not one ACORN office that refused to help them start a felony prostitution ring. NOT one from CA to DC and a few places inbetween......ya, let them squirm out of this one
BTW.....I was quoting the CEO of ACORN.....She said first it was "doctored" film, then she said, well it was just a couple of bad ones, and I believe she tried to say (lie) that there were some ACORN workers that didnt play along.....anyway, the whole organization needs to go down and lots of people need to pay back lots of money before they go on off to prison |
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2009, 06:34:59 AM » |
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What I don't understand, is how and why the heck they were recieving taxpayer money in the first place? And it seems if Obama was incloved with them before the election, surely he knew of this kind of stuff going on. Or do we have another clueless Pres? Didn't I read somewhere that he was an attorney for them? Attorney/client privilige will be invoked so how can he call for an investigation?
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2009, 06:48:41 AM » |
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What I don't understand, is how and why the heck they were recieving taxpayer money in the first place? And it seems if Obama was incloved with them before the election, surely he knew of this kind of stuff going on. Or do we have another clueless Pres? Didn't I read somewhere that he was an attorney for them? Attorney/client privilige will be invoked so how can he call for an investigation?
He should not "call" for an investigation. The F.B.I. will take care of that and they dont care about the attorney client thing because if they do their job right Obama will be a subject of the investigation not a party to running it. Thats probably why it wont ever happen......... |
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2009, 08:18:17 AM » |
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Scariest part is the amount of people that have not heard ANYTHING about this. I talked to my Production Manager this morning and he said he had not heard about the scandal.  |
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2009, 08:31:38 AM » |
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There was a very brief (30 second) snippet on our local news (Ch 12, ABC) last evening...
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2009, 01:15:57 PM » |
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Well they are now going to do their own internal investigation. Should be fine Now. LOL. |
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2009, 01:31:48 PM » |
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Just curious, should the actions of a few individuals define the view of an organization?
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2009, 01:48:49 PM » |
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