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Author Topic: Polk DB501 Speaker and Clarion XC1410 Amp Upgrade  (Read 2225 times)
cpd3020
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Jeffersonville, Indiana


« on: February 20, 2016, 07:50:57 PM »

Hello!

I've been on the board for over a month and have asked several questions and everyone is more than happy to help.  Thought I'd share my speaker experience....

One of my rear speakers were blown when I got the bike.  I ordered 2 pairs of Polk DB501's and put them in.... the sound sucked.... lol   Considering the factory speakers were only 16 watts and made of paper, the Polk DB501's require a lot more power....

I then ordered the Clarion XC1410 for $89 on amazon.  I installed it over the weekend and WOW now it sounds great.  Much better quality sound than the factory set.

I you are considering the DB501 upgrade just plan on buying an amp.  I read a couple posts that said you don't have to have an amp.... that is true.... however if you'd like to enjoy the sound of the speakers you WILL definitely need an amp.  Without it they are very underpowered and sound worse than the originals....

Just my 2 cents...
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Bighead
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2016, 12:24:28 AM »

Where did you mount the amp? A picture would be nice angel
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gordonv
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2016, 12:04:21 PM »

I you are considering the DB501 upgrade just plan on buying an amp.  I read a couple posts that said you don't have to have an amp.... that is true.... however if you'd like to enjoy the sound of the speakers you WILL definitely need an amp.  Without it they are very underpowered and sound worse than the originals....

I thought my rear Polk didn't sound very good also. Nice to know that with the addition of an amp, it not only may supply the extra volume I wanted, but the better sound quality I expected with a newer/better speaker.
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cpd3020
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Jeffersonville, Indiana


« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2016, 05:24:23 PM »

I mounted the amp inside the rear trunk on the left side.  I brought the wires up through a hole in the bottom and sealed it.  One of you guys were helping me out and said they fried theirs with water... so I read more about the amp and since its tiny and doesnt get hot I put it in the trunk... also much easier to get to.  Night and day difference in sound.

I still have some cleanup on the wires and will post pix when done.  I obviously cant completely hide the wires but I'm not stressed about it.  Its definetely worth it for the sound improvement.  Still not a lot of bass but youre just not going to get any at speed no matter what you do.
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Bighead
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2016, 06:18:59 PM »

I can't spare the trunk room.was the wiring pretty simple to do?
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NighthawkVTX
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2016, 06:55:18 PM »

Wow thanks for the write up. How difficult was it to get the speakers to install? How much "engineering" did it take?
Enquiring minds want to know. I'd  love to see a pic of that amp instslled in the trunk
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2016, 07:02:27 PM »

Is that amp small enough to fit under the left side cover?
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cpd3020
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 05:49:54 PM »

The amp wont fit under the left side cover.  It doesnt take much space in the trunk... its 2x7 ish... about the size of two large boxes of matches end to end

I followed the directions from this post... you must open the photobucket pictures to see the instructions...  you need a dremel and some small cutoff wheels and I also used a grinder.  The little grinder wheels like to BREAK.... WEAR GLASSES... a 20 pack of them at Menards was $3....

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?topic=33355.0

The DB501s almost fit perfect in the rear without modification.  I had to flatten the rounded edge facing the front of the bike by maybe 3/16" and the fit perfect.  I flattened them on my bench grinder.

You have to cutoff the flanges on the original fronts with the dremel wheels but it only took maybe 10 minutes each to do..... and about 10 of those little wheels....

To answer the wiring question as a rule I will never cut a harness.... however I did cut the one going to the rear speakers as its not part of the main harness and easy to replace. 

I probably did an unconventional install.  Basically I pulled the gas tank (changed the filter while under there) and ran 2 sets of 4 wire speaker wire to the front.  Since I wont cut the main harness and wanted to retain fader control I unplugged the speakers up front and used them for the high level inputs.  I connected the other two to the new speakers for the feed.

I ran 2 more 4 wire speaker wires to under the right cover.  I came back about 2 inches from where the original rear speakers plug in and cut them.  I connected one set of right and left to the wires closest to the plug for my high level inputs on the amp.  I reused the remaining wires to the speakers and connected them to my other two sets of wires to avoid rewiring the rears.

While I had the speakers out I also took a picture of the original wires as it makes it easier to keep track of polarity of the speakers and the original speaker wire colors.

Remember the larger spade on the speakers are POSITIVE and the smaller is NEGATIVE.  The new wires I used from a 100ft wall speaker roll from Lowes has four speaker wires inside the protective cover.... Red, black, green, white.  I bought that one because it simplified wire routing and the wire sleeve is black.   

I simply kept both right speakers with red/black, and the left side as green/white.  WRITE YOUR POLARITY down... red = positive, black = negative, green = positive, white = negative or however you'd like.... helps when you are wiring to remember and keep right/left front/rear straight when your wife comes out and burns your ears off with things that are more important to her than you.....  Smiley

I'm sure theres an easier way to do it but thats how I did it.... it works great and sounds great.

I ran my 10 guage pos/neg power wires directly to the battery.  I used a very thin green wire for my remote and inserted the bare end into the small fuse box, found a switched fuse, pulled it, inserted the thin wire, then reinserted the fuse.  Its just a remote trigger wire ans won't hurt anything.  The amp has its own fuse on its harness. 

I bought the red, black, and green amp wires individually and put one end in the vice and the other end in the drill and twisted them together.... then put them in flex loom...  electrical tape the ends so they dont come unravel....

Sorry this was so long.... lol
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Bighead
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2016, 08:30:45 PM »

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