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Hook#3287
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« on: February 29, 2016, 05:24:17 PM »



The red thingy zip tyed.  It seems to be something with the turn signals , but heck if I  know what it is.

I'm the first to admit I know squat about electrical stuff.

This is my buddies bike and it has round light brackets in the rear turn signals and they are also running & brake lights.

He has these running lights on the front, that are on all the time, as soon as the key is turned.  Seems like their wired though the front turn signals.  When the signals are used, they (the signals) are significantly dimmer than they should be.  Any ideas why they are not as bright as they should be?

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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2016, 07:12:24 PM »

I think you need more detective work. What is it wired into? The wire color.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2016, 03:23:05 AM »

I think you need more detective work. What is it wired into? The wire color.

Yeah, Thanks.

As I said, it's my buddies, so I don't have access to look again.

Pretty sure it was hooked up the rear turn signal wires, but I'll check it closer next time I'm there.

Doing a de-smog and 38 slow's and waiting on parts.

Think it's related to the rear blinker running lights?
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2016, 04:09:28 AM »

Bill, I had something very similar on my I/S. It wasn't red in color like that but about the same size. It was a thingamabob that turned the trunk lights and rear blinkers into brake flashers and running lights. I had to remove mine because it was malfunctioning on the left blinker and I couldn't get it to work. When he applies his brakes do the rear tail and turns flash ?
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 05:16:47 AM »

It's a Custom Dynamics run-stop-turn converter module:

http://www.customdynamics.com/tailconversion_kit.htm



ETA:

The one on your buddy's bike looks to be an earlier (no flash rate adjustment) model.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 01:55:48 PM »

Bill, I had something very similar on my I/S. It wasn't red in color like that but about the same size. It was a thingamabob that turned the trunk lights and rear blinkers into brake flashers and running lights. I had to remove mine because it was malfunctioning on the left blinker and I couldn't get it to work. When he applies his brakes do the rear tail and turns flash ?

No, but the blinkers are stop lights also.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 01:56:21 PM »

Thanks Bagger John.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2016, 06:25:48 PM »

I'm not so sure about the Custom Dynamics answer.
I only see two wires coming out of it.

Do the brake lights pulse, when the brake is initially applied?

I have a Brake Light Modulator on one of my bikes, and it only uses two wires.

It's from Signal Dynamics and is a small square box, but what your friend has, could be something similar from another vendor.

http://www.signaldynamics.com/backoff

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2016, 05:01:34 AM »

I'm not so sure about the Custom Dynamics answer.
I only see two wires coming out of it.

Do the brake lights pulse, when the brake is initially applied?

I have a Brake Light Modulator on one of my bikes, and it only uses two wires.

It's from Signal Dynamics and is a small square box, but what your friend has, could be something similar from another vendor.

http://www.signaldynamics.com/backoff

Allan

Early generation C-D modulator unit?

I spent a bit of time searching before posting that reference....and if the thing only has two wires and is wired into the front turn signals that makes zero sense.

Off to dig some more today, I guess.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2016, 12:41:40 PM »

I remember the days when adding a "blue dot" to your tail light.......was "high tech".......

 Grin Grin
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2016, 01:28:24 PM »

Look closely at the picture and you'll see three or maybe four wires exiting the unit. It's a Badlands turn signal equalizer. This is the best pic I have of a similar model LE-01 which is a Harley model. If you flip the thing over you may see a model number on it and then can look up the installation sheet to see if it's still needed or even wired up correctly. There are a bunch of models such as an LE=-0, LE-02, LE-03. I lost count at about eight different models.

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2016, 03:13:01 PM »

Look closely at the picture and you'll see three or maybe four wires exiting the unit. It's a Badlands turn signal equalizer. This is the best pic I have of a similar model LE-01 which is a Harley model. If you flip the thing over you may see a model number on it and then can look up the installation sheet to see if it's still needed or even wired up correctly. There are a bunch of models such as an LE=-0, LE-02, LE-03. I lost count at about eight different models.




Hey Bon,  Thanks for the info (everyone else too).  I believe it's related to the rear turn signals.  I'm going to help him with De-smog and float valves this weekend and will look closer at it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2016, 09:58:09 AM »

i can only see two wires from the box, my best guess is that is a brake modulator. if it was something else it would had more wires coming out.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2016, 05:34:08 AM »

Looked at it a little closer yesterday.  2 wires that are attached to the rear blinker (Light Blue & Orange) wires, rather poorly, in the clear rubber/plastic cover under the side cover.

What does it do?  Can't figure why it's there?  It is just attached at the male/female connectors.  It's not like the current goes through it.

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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2016, 06:05:02 AM »

If the turn signal bulbs are smaller than OEM or they are LED then they draw less current. Less current means that the turn signals blink faster than they should. There are resistors inside the red box that load-up the turn signal circuit like the larger OEM bulbs do and therefore make the turn signals blink at the OEM rate.

A simple test is to unplug the red box and your turns will simply blink faster.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2016, 06:40:26 AM »

If the turn signal bulbs are smaller than OEM or they are LED then they draw less current. Less current means that the turn signals blink faster than they should. There are resistors inside the red box that load-up the turn signal circuit like the larger OEM bulbs do and therefore make the turn signals blink at the OEM rate.

A simple test is to unplug the red box and your turns will simply blink faster.

Ahh, okay, I get it now.  I'll try that next time I go over and hook up the battery.

Thanks.
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