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mikeb311978
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« on: April 04, 2016, 12:14:09 AM »

Okay so I have about 600 miles on my 205/60/16 goodyear assurance triple tread no rubs or anything running at about 40 psi 2 up. Still is a little awkward around slow speeds like up to 15 to 20 range seems to want to drive itself meaning little cracks and road or driveway angles really throw a curve in there lol but no problem I'm a seasoned rider . like it for the most part just wondering if others handle better for future reference .
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Bone
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2016, 02:39:12 AM »

I'm on my 3rd CT the last two GYTT. They fit my riding style but I'm sure the rounded tread area tires handle better.
Been cross country 3 times and they (GYTT) make really good hwy tires.
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RDKLL
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2016, 05:00:33 AM »

I have several hundred miles on my Proxes R1R in the 205/55-16 flavor and except for very slow speeds it has been great. I would experiment with your pressures. I am back to 36...I tried 40 and didnt like it
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2016, 07:04:55 AM »

It took me several thousand miles on a Verdestein before it seemed to be working right at slow speeds. It works best at 42, but that pressure does make it wear in the center than on the sides as Jess from VA fore warned.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2016, 07:09:58 AM »

been dark side now for 6 years, the tires with rounded shoulders give a better ride. now riding on a Yakohoma rides very smooth and corners better then the General altimax it replaced. i have always picked tires with a rounded shoulder. stay away from square sides. they run great straight. but cornering they try to stand you up to much.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2016, 08:04:24 AM »

The rounded shoulders certainly make a difference. This Kuhmo 195/60 is what I just mounted last week, replacing a Bridgestone 205 which did give some bump steer at times. The new one seems unaffected when I experimented riding over the same spots I'm familiar with that have tar snakes and grooves, etc.  The tread is less than 10mm narrower then the 205 so I'm not losing much in the way of a contact patch.

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2016, 08:54:41 AM »

Sorry but this thread scares me from ever going dark side.  Already felt sure I didn't want to, but now more so.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2016, 09:02:25 AM »

why?
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rhinor61
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2016, 12:47:21 PM »

Hello Dark Siders...

I just put on my first CT, I chose a Bridgestone RunFlat 205/55/16... Started off with 36psi.

So far I am enjoying the crossing over to the DS...

Anybody else have experiences running a CT RF vs a CT non-RF tire that they can share?

I plan to change my tire out every 2 years regardless of miles, that x2 longer that a Dunlop D3 was lasting me.

thanks..

John
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2016, 03:08:11 PM »


I plan to change my tire out every 2 years regardless of miles.



You may do what ever you wish, but might I ask why?
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2016, 04:49:03 PM »

Love my Ohtsu FS6000 (Falken rebrand)

Got about 6000 miles on it so far and there are a couple of quirks but nothing that would freak me out. If you understand the physics of what is going on with the tire, what it does becomes no mystery.

I personally prefer the wider tire, the traction, the durability, and the price. The differences from a motorcycle tire are easily dealt with.

That being said, I don't let friends/family try out my bike with the CT only because it can leave them with the wrong impression of the bike.

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rhinor61
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2016, 08:19:36 PM »

I agree it handles more....
well its a different bike with a CT..

Skin,
I will opt out after 2 seasons of riding cause it will be 15k-20k miles of riding and rubber gets old and harder.
A motorcycle tire was lasting maybe 12-18 months so it got swapped out anyways.

Its not only the tread depth you should be looking at but the age of your tires. I think 3 years maximum for a 2 wheel vehicle.,  I know many will disagree.
I want to be safe, and not have any tire issues on a long ride. and still have a tire that will perform like its new.

I road raced sport cars years ago, New tires were always better than old tires.

John

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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 05:39:12 AM »

My first CT was a GYTT. I rode it fine for 15k. However after riding tires with rounded shoulders I can now say the GYTT was the worst of the 3 I have ridden. As others have said find a rounded shouldered tire. I now ride a Hankook Optima and have 0 of the low speed issues the GYTT has. Hope this helps.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 01:21:53 PM »

I'm going to the Austone Taxi Tire next change I make, and a rear MC tire on the front (maybe).
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2016, 02:53:44 PM »

I have two valks, one with MC tires and the other with the Austone on the rear and a Kenda rear tire on the front.  They both handle nearly the same.  I did have a Bridgestone Potenza which was good until it got worn and started doing the bump steer.
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2016, 04:47:06 PM »

 cooldude I'm using a 205/55 GYTT 3 yrs. and got used to the little quirks in short order. Becomes second nature to riding. The Pros outweight the cons.  Bert
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Bone
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2016, 04:56:03 PM »

I'm very comfortable with the GYTT. My first one I took it out on a very hard rainy day near home and tried several hard stops. Started easy and worked my way up to hwy speed. I'm amazed at their wet weather handling.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2016, 05:02:45 PM »

I've got the Goodyear TT on both my interstates (3d tire).  I have no complaints, and they are great tires.  There may be better handling car tires out there, but what I don't know doesn't bother me a bit. 
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farmer998
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2016, 05:51:55 PM »

I just went to the Darkside a few weeks ago on recommendations of a few people.  Austone Taxi Tire.  Love it.  Definitely is a different feeling but very manageable.  Great on turns with the curved edges.  Several hundred miles on it and am pleased.  Smooth ride no additional noise at highway speeds. $ 170 delivered in 3 days.
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2016, 08:46:23 PM »

I went Darkside last year with a General Altimax HP and loved it. First couple of turns I thought I was going to fall over but after the first 5 kms, and half a dozen 90 degree turns it was great. 4000km later I bent a valve and bought another Valkyrie to ride while I fix it, and the new ride had a bike tire on it. I found the learning curve was a lot steeper going from the CT back to the MT than it was swapping to the CT the first time. Burned up the Dunlop on the back of the new bike in under 6000km so it now has a fresh Yokahoma Avid Envigor waiting for spring. I can't imagine ever going back to a MT now.
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Jopson
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2016, 05:48:26 PM »

Yokohama Avid Envigor 250/60R16
Love it, no handling issues whatsoever, live down a gravel road and far out handles any MC tire I've had under me!
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RDKLL
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2016, 06:49:15 AM »

I have had mine for, mmm not sure of the miles...but 700-800 or so and its getting better...I am really looking forward to hitting the twisties north of Mesa again with this tire...have not put the beads in yet and my new dampers are still in the freezer
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rhinor61
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2016, 08:37:37 AM »

RDKLL...
+1,
The tire rack is sending me one out after reading your post.
Should be here today, its going to be raining . 
So I will do the double roller bearing mod
to my spare Rim and get the tire mounted.
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How many ounces of Dyna beads you going to run in the Toyo?

John
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