Repair Bag Lid Hinge

[old man]

I just bought a set of Tourer Bags form someone on this site.  After they were installed on the bike, and after opening the right bag 3 -5 times, the plastic hinge that attaches to the lid broke off.

Has anyone reattached the plastic hinge to the lid?  I've thought about using some kind of PVC glue or Q-Bond but don't want to screw this up.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks

[hubcapsc]

What part, now? The hinge is chromed metal...



The bags themselves are ABS, so ABS plumbing glue works good on them...

-Mike

[Bighead]

You could buy the parts and convert them to the Interstate style ie no hinges.

[Gavin_Sons]

Factory bags dont have plastic hinges. I have a set of hinges on the kitchen shelf waiting to be gifted to rainman for his yellow bike. They are for sure metal, took them off my brothers bike and installed IS hinges when he added his trunk on his 97 green and cream. They install with 4 screws, 2 on lid side 2 on bag side.

[gordonv]

Like already mentioned, the hinges are metal, not plastic, on Tourer saddle bags. Supply a picture or a name, sound like they are after market.

Someone in my GW group said to never use ABS on the ABS, use a solvent to melt/weld it together.

I'm planning on taking some plastic down to my local Plastic Shop and try it out before I buy it. There is a lot of products out there that say it works on plastic.

[pancho]

Hold on now,,, I think old man is saying that the plastic around the hinge broke off, and if so, we are talking abs plastic. Now gordonv, no matter what you have heard on the GW group, ABS cement is the best solution for repairing ABS plastic,, it actually is a solvent for ABS and will "melt/weld" it together. However, that is such a high stress area, that I think some reinforcement on the backside will be required to make a long lasting repair.

DO you think the bag was already damaged in that area old man?? 

[old man]

Thanks for all the interest.  The upper part of the metal hinge screws into the lid.  It is the plastic of the lid, that the hinge screws into, that broke away from the lid.  If you look at the under side of the lid, you will see it has a fin like design under the lid.  That is the part that broke, the under plastic of the lid that the hinge screws to.

I never posted a picture on this site before but it sounds like people have difficulty doing it.  If my description doesn't communicate it properly, I will try to send a pic.

When you say ABS, does that use the same two part cement as PVC pipe?


Thanks again.

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

Thanks for all the interest.  The upper part of the metal hinge screws into the lid.  It is the plastic of the lid, that the hinge screws into, that broke away from the lid.  If you look at the under side of the lid, you will see it has a fin like design under the lid.  That is the part that broke, the under plastic of the lid that the hinge screws to.

I never posted a picture on this site before but it sounds like people have difficulty doing it.  If my description doesn't communicate it properly, I will try to send a pic.

When you say ABS, does that use the same two part cement as PVC pipe?


Thanks again.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/16-oz-ABS-Cement-in-Black-308923/100137505

[hubcapsc]

I used this:



To repair this:



... over seven years ago, it is still holding up great.

The glue needs to say it works for ABS, or it won't... the glue type
exclusively for ABS might be better than what I used, but the
multipurpose stuff I used has worked well.

Here's an Oatey page, the text on it has some ABS instructions:

http://www.oatey.com/products/plastic-pipe-cements-and-primers/oatey-primers

-Mike

[old man]

Thanks to all.  I looked up the abs and pvc and now have an appreciation for the difference.  Seems like motor cycles use abs.

I really appreciate the quick response.  I was fortunate enough to find these tourer bags that matched my black and silver paint colors.  When they were put on the bike, the bike looks like one that was used for Honda ads for the 1999 Tourer.

Due to unavailability these things are expensive.  When the lid snapped off I felt terrible.  Thanks to your support I now have hope.


Old Man

[John Schmidt]

Wondering how the lid could snap off if the retaining cables were in place. Those cables don't let the lid go that far back for that very reason.

[gordonv]

Wondering how the lid could snap off if the retaining cables were in place. Those cables don't let the lid go that far back for that very reason.

My thought exactly. If the lid does not have cables on it, then please get them. It limits how far the lid will flip open.

If you have a IS model, you can't flip it too far, it hits the trunk. Then you have 2 cables and the hinge is a hook, and is removable from the bag and hangs on the side. Always have them on an IS, of you could end up losing your lids on the road one day.

As for pictures, get a free photbucket account. Easiest one to use. IMO

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,85788.0.html

[old man]

The way it snapped off:  I opened the right bag to reach to the bottom for a bungie cord to tied my 12 pack to the back.  While my right hand was at the bottom reaching for the cord, the lid, which does have the limit cable on it, closed onto my arm.  When I moved my arm to push the lid away, it snapped off. 

I didn't feel like I used any pressure to move the lid away, I was just trying to make room for my arm to come out with the bungie cord. 

My guess: this lid had been broken sometime before I purchased it.  Someone tried to repair it with something like super glue and it didn't hold.

However, I guess I will never know.  But I must say, I was really surprised the lid snapped off, I would have thought the OEM would have made a better quality product.  That's why I suspect it had previously been broken and repaired.

Thanks very much for the Photo Bucket tutorial.  I've wanted to post pics several times and I'm excited to try it!

[pancho]

Yeah, that would take you down a notch or two,, my new bags!!, but with the proper ABS cement some small pieces of ABS and some research on how others have done ABS repairs, you will get a good bond and can put some ABS reinforcing in the area..  Sort of like welding except you can get a good bond between pieces, not just around the edges.