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« on: May 04, 2016, 05:56:33 PM » |
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I recently got a '99 Tourer. First day over 80 F and I roasted, and it's gonna get a lot hotter over the next few months.
I see people talk about the Baker Air Wings. Given how they mount on a GoldWing or Valk IS, I can see how they'd work both in heating and cooling the rider. But on the Valk Tourer, it looks like you can deflect air in a way to keep you warmer, but I can't see how you could set them to keep you cooler.
Can someone confirm that on a Tourer that the Air Wings will keep you cooler?
Also, I see lots of complaints about missing parts. Any thoughts on how to avoid this?
Thanks! Jeff
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 06:07:42 PM » |
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They will work fine. I have an I/S and a Std. Have/had them on both bikes. Took them off the Std when I put a Hoppe fairing and I/S pods on it. They would no longer fit, so sold them. Bakers are worth it.
Mr Baker himself installed the set on my I/S back in 2001. Said go for a ride and see what I thought. If I didn't like, he would take them off and refund my money. Was a hot day and I didn't get 2 blocks when I decided I would not be returning them.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 06:31:07 PM » |
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Photochaser,
why don't you simply take the screen off your bike ??
That was the first thing i done when i got my Valkyrie here in Thailand.
Makes it far cooler to ride and absolutely no buffeting from the turbulence that screens produce.
It's an easy job and can be easily refitted should the weather change come winter, assuming you get one where you are ??
Steve.....
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 06:36:27 PM » |
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I might have to do that, but I like going fast. Wind and bugs are not your friends when you are scooting along. So I'd like to try something else.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 06:39:31 PM » |
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80 and roasted?
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 07:47:08 PM » |
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Just like the Air Wings on the I/S, the larger lower section for the Tourer and Std. will turn in/out. It can either block the wind in winter, or catch it and direct it in towards the rider in summer.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 07:52:41 PM » |
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Just like the Air Wings on the I/S, the larger lower section for the Tourer and Std. will turn in/out. It can either block the wind in winter, or catch it and direct it in towards the rider in summer.
It just seems that turning the lower wing to put air on the rider will collect air off the radiator and engine, which is the last thing I want. After looking more carefully at where it sits, I can imagine that closing the bottom and turning the top to blow air on the rider would help.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 08:08:32 PM » |
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My Tourer came with a Goldwing vent in the shield; I can aim the airflow up under my helmet, or straight back to my chest. Minimal insect intrusions, and you can close it when needed.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 09:12:27 PM » |
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Minimal insect intrusions, and you can close it when needed.
Add a piece of furnace filter.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2016, 04:42:43 AM » |
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It just seems that turning the lower wing to put air on the rider will collect air off the radiator and engine, which is the last thing I want. After looking more carefully at where it sits, I can imagine that closing the bottom and turning the top to blow air on the rider would help.
I thought the same thing... in reality, when riding at any speed above 25 Mph... the wings pull in air like you wouldn't believe and actually do a great job of cooling the rider down. I usually leave both full open and the breeze is substantial. The air heared by the motor when moving is negligible at best.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2016, 07:55:35 AM » |
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That's what I wanted to know! Thanks!
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2016, 09:54:56 AM » |
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I have air wings on my bike which is a 98 tour and honestly if you make them into air scoops it helps cool the engine but it doesn't cool the rider at least not in my experience. but I actually bought the air wings to help keep me warm in the winter, and they do that really well.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2016, 11:17:42 AM » |
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We have Marinakorp saying they do help cool on a Tourer, and Tfrank59 saying they don't. What to do? What to do?
Of course, I'd like to tease Tfrank59 that in Western Washington, there are no truly hot days. But I might see him in Port Angeles and with my luck, it'll be the one hot weekend in Port Angeles history.
So I need some tie-breakers. Tourer. Hot days. Air Wings. Do they cool the rider?
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2016, 12:58:02 PM » |
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Yes they work both winter & summer. I have had them for 1/4 million miles on Deerslayer (std), BluByYou (1800 wing) and now Jade (Tourer). I keep the uppers closed to control buffeting unless it gets really hot, then open them both. Summer, they pull in a lot of ambient air to mix with the radiator air and lower it's temp. In the winter with both closed, the vacuum causes the rad air to raise and wash over your lower body. More effective heating than cooling but try riding on hot days with them in neutral position and you will appreciate they do help.
When the temps rise above body temp, blasting more air on you doesn't help. If I'm riding in 100+° temps I use a mesh jacket with a soaking wet sweatshirt under it. That's out west, haven't tried that in high humidity and know that won't work.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2016, 03:39:50 PM » |
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Placed my order. Thanks all!
(I hope they are not 6-8 weeks out like they were last summer according to some posts here.)
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2016, 04:03:01 PM » |
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Placed my order. Thanks all!
(I hope they are not 6-8 weeks out like they were last summer according to some posts here.)
http://motowing.com/If it's not to late to cancel your order you could go with these. He is one our sponsors and an all around good guy . 
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2016, 04:46:25 PM » |
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Okay, correction--I have motowings. They actually use the airwings hardware. Yes, we do get a little hot here in Seattle at least hotter than 50F  . When I'm on the girl and it's 85ish, it's just a big ol heater I'm sitting on and it don't matter what "wings" you got, I'm roastin, but that's just me.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2016, 10:50:32 PM » |
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I got the Baker Air Wings. Definitely makes a difference. But it's now 100F out there and I'm staying inside!
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2016, 04:22:42 PM » |
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I will second that "80 and roasting???" Man....would love to have those temps down here right now. Today was 93 and humidity was over 80.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2016, 07:47:42 PM » |
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100 and low humidity isn't bad try it at about 95 and 90% humidity then you known ou are hot 
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2016, 09:26:57 AM » |
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100 and low humidity isn't bad try it at about 95 and 90% humidity then you known ou are hot  Been there, done that! Took a 600 mile round trip ride down to South TX, McAllen about 2 weeks back. Temps were in the high 90's with close to 100% humidity, heat index was around 105. Even with me taking breaks frequently and keeping myself properly hydrated, it took me a good couple of days to recover.
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