moving the oem pegs on the Goldwings

[dr.danh]

 I am tall and can use some length.Would like to hve forward pegs or controls on my 1800 Goldwing. One thing which is probably the only thing that i dont like about the Goldwings is that the pegs are directly below you. I like the setup on the VTX as are forward with floorboards. You would think Honda would make it more comfortable for riders as Harley etc. with more forward controls especially on the Wings.

[kyrie6]

Rattlebars did once make the peg kit and kickshifter and other items. They have been retired for some  time. Occasionally you can find someone that are selling them. Their products are best quality and hard to find. I have the peg relocate kit and kickshifter on my I/S. Works great for over 100k miles. As far as the Goldwing. It would be nice. I did put pullback risers on mine but not much help at the leg length. If anyone knows of something for the wing let us know.

[98valk]

IMO lowering the pegs is not safe.  Also, with a shaft driven bike when one gets off the throttle the bike goes down, classic shaft drive effect, thereby decreasing ground clearance even more. The valkyrie isn't as bad as other shaft driven bikes, but it is still there.
raise the seat area. many ways to do it, including using an airhawk seat cushion.

[MarkT]

IMO lowering the pegs is not safe.
raise the seat area. many ways to do it, including using an airhawk seat cushion.

This community and club already has a dearth of businesses still supporting it with aftermarket products and sponsorships - Inzane drawings etc. There will be only a handful of vendors at Morgantown.  I took on Rattlebar's peg lowering kit production, after he shut his valkyrie support down.  I have spent quite a bit of money on this project, in particular on the latest product run.  Now we have a self-styled Safety Crusader who seems to want to stop everybody from lowering their pegs, even when they know the risks and their riding style which he doesn't.  In other words, what they do is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS. We all ride our own ride and are responsible for our own decisions.  If I wind up eating that cost courtesy of this kind of crap, I may cancel plans for other products - such as a seat elevator kit - and even sponsorship of the club.  No one else is still making Valkyrie exhausts.  No one else is making the other products I make.  Sorry it ticks me off to have a self-styled crusader killing my income at no cost to himself.  Bet he wouldn't like it if someone was to cut his paycheck in half due to not minding their business.  And yes, I am donating several hundred dollars in product to the Inzane drawings.  Including some of these lowering kits.  Maybe CA will get lucky and win one.

[98valk]

IMO lowering the pegs is not safe.
raise the seat area. many ways to do it, including using an airhawk seat cushion.

This community and club already has a dearth of businesses still supporting it with aftermarket products and sponsorships - Inzane drawings etc. There will be only a handful of vendors at Morgantown.  I took on Rattlebar's peg lowering kit production, after he shut his valkyrie support down.  I have spent quite a bit of money on this project, in particular on the latest product run.  Now we have a self-styled Safety Crusader who seems to want to stop everybody from lowering their pegs, even when they know the risks and their riding style which he doesn't.  In other words, what they do is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS. We all ride our own ride and are responsible for our own decisions.  If I wind up eating that cost courtesy of this kind of crap, I may cancel plans for other products - such as a seat elevator kit - and even sponsorship of the club.  No one else is still making Valkyrie exhausts.  No one else is making the other products I make.  Sorry it ticks me off to have a self-styled crusader killing my income at no cost to himself.  Bet he wouldn't like it if someone was to cut his paycheck in half due to not minding their business.  And yes, I am donating several hundred dollars in product to the Inzane drawings.  Including some of these lowering kits.  Maybe CA will get lucky and win one.

never mentioned u or your product.

but u sound like obama, have transgender bathrooms or else I will stop fed Tax dollars to your schools.
so u want to stop free speech or u threaten to pull your support and u make other threats?
have fun and God Bless! 

[MarkT]

Not threats pal.  It's bottom line for me.  If the product is killed due to your bogus safety meddling I simply have to make choices going forward.  Already most sponsors are gone for the same reason - bottom line.

You slammed the product here and on the other thread.  Your blather does not apply to everybody.  And the buyers are advised it's for their comfort at the cost of reducing cornering speed.  That is their choice. And none of your business.  

I note the classified poster says his lowering kit is new, uninstalled.  Thanks to negative "safety" posts, maybe?

Good luck getting newly made products for your Valkyrie.  I note even 2nd hand, discontinued "unobtainium" product is priced outta sight, depending on demand/supply.

Now let me see how do I go about chopping your paycheck in half?

[98valk]

Not threats pal.  It's bottom line for me.  If the product is killed due to your bogus safety meddling I simply have to make choices going forward.  Already most sponsors are gone for the same reason - bottom line.

You slammed the product here and on the other thread.  Your blather does not apply to everybody.  And the buyers are advised it's for their comfort at the cost of reducing cornering speed.  That is their choice. And none of your business.  

I note the classified poster says his lowering kit is new, uninstalled.  Thanks to negative "safety" posts, maybe?

Good luck getting newly made products for your Valkyrie.  I note even 2nd hand, discontinued "unobtainium" product is priced outta sight, depending on demand/supply.

Now let me see how do I go about chopping your paycheck in half?

no bogus safety, pure facts. NEVER slammed the product or u, I stated IMHO it is not safe and there is a safer way to go. that's it. U modded seats before, why not go that way. used seat pans are cheap, bar risers, cheap. u would have protection if God forbid something happened and some slick lawyer comes after u. Again IMHO.

so your bottom line is more important than peoples safety and possible injury and a totaled bike??
I don't believe that is really u deep down in your heart. I've read too many of your posts over the yrs.
Trust in God for your income not yourself and u will do 100 times better.
and if I haven't said it before, Thank You for your service and God Bless. 

[MarkT]

As I said.  It's up to the riders to decide if it's safe for them, as a function of their riding style, which they know.  The issue of dragging the pegs does not apply to everybody.

I have not modified seats as a production product.  There is a vast difference between a prototype and a product in production.

Saying I have anything in common with Zero.  WOW.  I am so far removed from that turd it's funny.

Your bottom line vs. people's injury is a bullshit statement.   What I'm seeing with you, is a liberal POV. They don't like guns so they don't want YOU to have one.  In this case, if you don't want to lower pegs, don't do it.  But keep your nose out of other's business if they want to.

I don't see any lawyer having success on such a lawsuit.  But granted their are plenty of shysters who might like to try.  And that costs $ to defend.  Good thing I have legal insurance.

Bringing God into this?  WTF.  My experience has been, with close association with preachers (brother and father) trusting in God for income amounts to hat - in - hand and mooching off others.  Then  thanking God for delivering their daily bread. Not the folks who gave it to them.  I'd say as far as a paradigm on that, trust in God but get to work.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have the Rattlebars lowering kit. It looks to be the same as MarkT's minus the chrome left side. If I felt it was even the slight bit dangerous I'd pull them.  Floorboards and pegs hinge, they are not a solid mount that will remove traction from the tires. Granted if one were to continue further into the lean past the amount of hinge they could, but you would almost have to try to make that happen. Anybody that gets cramped in the knees would appreciate the little extra comfort. I give them my recommendation and am not worried in the least that they are unsafe. 

[98 VALK]

I have rode my VALKYRIE several times since i installed the peg locators & i see no danger at all. If i did i also would remove them. But to me they serve a purpose and that is to give me just that little bit of legroom that i needed. I've been riding motorcycles all my life & had a bunch of them. Most recently a 2013 HARLEY ELECTRAGLIDE. I wanted one badly & it took me just over one year & about $35.000.00 dollars later to realize that the HARLEY was not for me. Thank god i did not sell my VALKYRIE during that love hate relationship. I ride slow or so i've been told & MARK"S peg location kit has done great for me. And i feel fortunate to have been able to purchase one for a motorcycle that's 18 years old. So thank you MR. MARK for making these & other item's for our motorcycles even after all these years.

[CoachDoc]

I bought a 2005 GL1800 3 years ago after having ridden 1500 Valks as well as 1500 Wings for years. I totally agree with your impression of the seating position in the 1800: extremely cramped.......my bad knee was screaming at me riding that bike. I made several changes, and now it is extremely comfortable. To wit, I bought a combo foot peg lowering kit using a mix I believe of Showchrome and Kury pieces that moves the pegs down a couple of inches and forward a couple of inches. Then I splurged on the Ultimate seat for the 1800, which is much more roomy and moves you back another 1 1/2 to 2 inches, so overall I'm now sitting about 4 inches further back in relation to the foot pegs, which are also lower. Much easier on the knees. I then realized it would be nice to bring the grips back some to compensate for my changes, so I installed risers that moved them up about an inch and back 2 1/2 inches. Overall I invested close to a grand in the changes, but for me it was worth it because the bike was basically worthless to me when I was so uncomfortable on it. Now I can ride it all day in relative bliss, though sacrificing some ground clearance. I can scrape the driver pegs if I go around a corner too abruptly, but to me based upon 50 years riding, I don't see these changes as a safety issue as long as I am cognizant of the altered setup and ride accordingly. I can ride my Valk if I want to burn the twisty country roads around here.

[CoachDoc]

IMO lowering the pegs is not safe.  Also, with a shaft driven bike when one gets off the throttle the bike goes down, classic shaft drive effect, thereby decreasing ground clearance even more. The valkyrie isn't as bad as other shaft driven bikes, but it is still there.
raise the seat area. many ways to do it, including using an airhawk seat cushion.

It would have been better just to state your preference for an alternative way of modifying riding position, rather than attacking the guy's undoubtedly very solid product over supposed (and in my view bogus) safety issues, thereby jeapordizing his return on investment in something that can benefit many on this site. I've ridden several bikes with lowered pegs over the years. They all fold up quite nicely while scraping the roadway, and with prudence they never even need do that.

[hubcapsc]

MarkT and I both have BBT forward controls... they introduce
a new "lowest hard part to drag" into the equation... if you're
leaned over so far your highway pegs are folded up... only one
of my highway pegs is even scuffed, and I sure do like the
forward controls. Frank Smoak has the forward controls too,
the lowest part (on each side) on his are worn almost half
through, I know at least one time it almost sent him off
the side of the mountain when he dragged on one side. We
do all kinds of things to our bikes to make them better for
ourselves...

-Mike "What's right for me might not be right for you"

[98valk]

IMO lowering the pegs is not safe.  Also, with a shaft driven bike when one gets off the throttle the bike goes down, classic shaft drive effect, thereby decreasing ground clearance even more. The valkyrie isn't as bad as other shaft driven bikes, but it is still there.
raise the seat area. many ways to do it, including using an airhawk seat cushion.

It would have been better just to state your preference for an alternative way of modifying riding position, rather than attacking the guy's undoubtedly very solid product over supposed (and in my view bogus) safety issues, thereby jeapordizing his return on investment in something that can benefit many on this site. I've ridden several bikes with lowered pegs over the years. They all fold up quite nicely while scraping the roadway, and with prudence they never even need do that.

If u see my first post which was the third post in this thread, it was to the OP (who has since modified their org post and took out about lowered pegs) who never mentioned the  _______ mark-t or his product. before his attack I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT HIS PRODUCT DID NOT EVER KNOW IT EXISTED, THE OP NEVER MENTIONED mt's PRODUCT OR HIM.
mr. mt entered in and attacked me as he has done to others over the yrs for no reason at all since I NEVER MENTIONED HIM OR HIS PRODUCT AS I DIDN'T KNOW IT EXISTED.
 He is nothing more than a bully and probably has been most of his life. He has had run-ins with other posters over the yrs.
Didn't know he owned this board and has a say over what people post.
maybe I need to find another board, I think many will be happy with that.
Good Bye.

"The anatomy of such a crash is fairly simple. The rider, startled by the sound and vibration of metal contacting pavement, instinctively stands the bike up. Often the rider will then just run the bike straight off the road because he’s caught in the horns of a powerful – if inaccurate – dilemma. His brain is telling him he can’t lean the bike over even though it is now almost completely upright."
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/motorcycle-cornering-clearance-runs

[MarkT]

Parting shots.  Cowardly. Unsupported BS claims. Mischaracterization of the dialog.

My comments are about protecting my investment and products against unwarrented attack,  for those who want the option to buy and use them with full understanding of potential limits to their riding style, against a meddling busybody who wants to stop others from exercising their freedom of choice.  Clearly 98valk(CA) subscribes to the liberal's paradigm of stopping others from behaviors he personally doesn't agree with and want to employ.  Yep, appropriate he calls himself (CA).  Guessing that's for Californicator.

Your loss hero. Bet a dollar CA will be back under an alias.

Good bye.

[98valk]

Parting shots.  Cowardly. Unsupported BS claims. Mischaracterization of the dialog. Your loss hero. Bet a dollar he will be back under an alias.

Good bye.

read the org posts U BULLY. U WERE NEVER MENTIONED OR YOUR PRODUCT!!!!  CAN U GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL????!!!!! CAN YOU?? OR IS YOUR BULLY EGO THAT BIG??
U POSTED AND ATTACKED ME FOR NOTHING SINCE I NEVER TALKED ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PRODUCT! U BROUGHT IT UP!!! CAN U UNDERSTAND THAT?? I CAN'T WRITE IT ANY EASIER FOR SOMEBODY TO UNDERSTAND!!
 I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT U AND WHAT U MAKE EXCEPT FOR YOUR EXHAUSTS.
U REALLY NEED TO GROW UP.  EVERYBODY SEES WHAT U DID.

GOOD BYE BULLY AND YOUR 2 YR OLD SUPER EGO. PEOPLE LIKE U ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD. SO SORRY FOR U.

[MarkT]

Parting shots.  Cowardly. Unsupported BS claims. Mischaracterization of the dialog. Your loss hero. Bet a dollar he will be back under an alias.

Good bye.

read the org posts U BULLY. U WERE NEVER MENTIONED OR YOUR PRODUCT!!!!  CAN U GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL????!!!!! CAN YOU?? OR IS YOUR BULLY EGO THAT BIG??
U POSTED AND ATTACKED ME FOR NOTHING SINCE I NEVER TALKED ABOUT YOU OR YOUR PRODUCT! U BROUGHT IT UP!!! CAN U UNDERSTAND THAT?? I CAN'T WRITE IT ANY EASIER FOR SOMEBODY TO UNDERSTAND!!
 I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT U AND WHAT U MAKE EXCEPT FOR YOUR EXHAUSTS.
U REALLY NEED TO GROW UP.  EVERYBODY SEES WHAT U DID.

GOOD BYE BULLY AND YOUR 2 YR OLD SUPER EGO. PEOPLE LIKE U ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD. SO SORRY FOR U.

YOU'RE BACK!!!   And SHOUTING!  I'm impressed. That wasn't long.  Good show of maturity, shouting name caller. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

[The emperor has no clothes]

IMO lowering the pegs is not safe.  Also, with a shaft driven bike when one gets off the throttle the bike goes down, classic shaft drive effect, thereby decreasing ground clearance even more. The valkyrie isn't as bad as other shaft driven bikes, but it is still there.
raise the seat area. many ways to do it, including using an airhawk seat cushion.

It would have been better just to state your preference for an alternative way of modifying riding position, rather than attacking the guy's undoubtedly very solid product over supposed (and in my view bogus) safety issues, thereby jeapordizing his return on investment in something that can benefit many on this site. I've ridden several bikes with lowered pegs over the years. They all fold up quite nicely while scraping the roadway, and with prudence they never even need do that.

If u see my first post which was the third post in this thread, it was to the OP (who has since modified their org post and took out about lowered pegs) who never mentioned the  _______ mark-t or his product. before his attack I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT HIS PRODUCT DID NOT EVER KNOW IT EXISTED, THE OP NEVER MENTIONED mt's PRODUCT OR HIM.
mr. mt entered in and attacked me as he has done to others over the yrs for no reason at all since I NEVER MENTIONED HIM OR HIS PRODUCT AS I DIDN'T KNOW IT EXISTED.
 He is nothing more than a bully and probably has been most of his life. He has had run-ins with other posters over the yrs.
Didn't know he owned this board and has a say over what people post.
maybe I need to find another board, I think many will be happy with that.
Good Bye.

"The anatomy of such a crash is fairly simple. The rider, startled by the sound and vibration of metal contacting pavement, instinctively stands the bike up. Often the rider will then just run the bike straight off the road because he’s caught in the horns of a powerful – if inaccurate – dilemma. His brain is telling him he can’t lean the bike over even though it is now almost completely upright."
http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/motorcycle-cornering-clearance-runs

The first time I scraped pegs it startled me but you have to be a pretty rookie rider to straighten her up all the way and go out of your lane. If a rider does that they either need more riding experience or they need to quit riding altogether.