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98 Valk Tourer, 70,000 km's...Noticed some oil on the bottom of my final drive this morning. I serviced it(3 o-rings, grease and final drive oil change) about 1000kms ago. Had no leaking until this morning(I've been checking because it's the first time I've serviced it. It isn't coming from the vent or the drain plug. It's coming from the hole at the bottom of the pumpkin.
I did a search and it sounds like there is a seal on the wheel side of the final drive that is fairly easy to replace? Anyone know the part number of that seal? I want to call my Honda dealer and order it but I trust you guys a lot more than then to know which seal it is.
Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2016, 09:40:57 AM » |
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Beardo
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2016, 09:42:43 AM » |
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You're the man, Mike. Thanks.
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Beardo
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2016, 11:05:39 AM » |
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Yeah, after you gave me that part number, I googled it and found that diagram. Thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2016, 02:01:26 PM » |
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Beardo
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2016, 02:44:31 PM » |
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Yeah, replaced all 3 of them when I did it this winter, and removed and greased the driveshaft. Will be taking it apart this weekend to replace that seal.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2016, 02:48:31 PM » |
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Yeah, replaced all 3 of them when I did it this winter, and removed and greased the driveshaft. Will be taking it apart this weekend to replace that seal.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2016, 03:27:33 PM » |
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That big seal is very easy to replace. As I remember I used a tool to pry the old one out, but was able to easily press the new one into place with my fingers.
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Beardo
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2016, 03:51:50 PM » |
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Yeah, according to previous posts, it sounded pretty easy. And if it's leaking from the inside, that's pretty much all it can be, I think. Similar to the last leak I had...the shifter seal. Nice when they're pretty obvious and you can diagnose it and order the seal beforehand. This is my daily driver, really don't want to take it apart and have to wait for parts.
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 04:29:33 PM » |
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I noticed the same thing on my bike after a long trip on rough roads,turned out to be a blown out shock seal(progressive).Sure thought it was the final drive,ordered the seal and all.Progressive fixed the shock for free  |
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Beardo
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 05:23:20 PM » |
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Mine definitely has the distinct smell and texture of gear oil.
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2016, 06:56:35 PM » |
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Yeah, according to previous posts, it sounded pretty easy. And if it's leaking from the inside, that's pretty much all it can be, I think. Similar to the last leak I had...the shifter seal. Nice when they're pretty obvious and you can diagnose it and order the seal beforehand. This is my daily driver, really don't want to take it apart and have to wait for parts.
Be careful not to push it in too far. It should be no deeper than flush. It's tapered, so if you push it in too far, it leaks worse. |
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2016, 07:04:04 PM » |
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Yeah, according to previous posts, it sounded pretty easy. And if it's leaking from the inside, that's pretty much all it can be, I think. Similar to the last leak I had...the shifter seal. Nice when they're pretty obvious and you can diagnose it and order the seal beforehand. This is my daily driver, really don't want to take it apart and have to wait for parts.
Be careful not to push it in too far. It should be no deeper than flush. It's tapered, so if you push it in too far, it leaks worse. Good to know. Thanks for the tip. |
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 08:45:41 PM » |
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Mine definitely has the distinct smell and texture of gear oil.
My first thought was oil coming from the grease or anything else you had used on the splines. |
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2016, 07:12:09 AM » |
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Is it coming out the vent on top due to overfilling?
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2016, 11:36:14 AM » |
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Got the seal out no problem, just put a screw in it and pulled it out. Got the new one in flush. ...then I'm about to put the tire back on and I notice a nail in it. I had a nail last year that I just plugged but I don't want to put another. The tires maybe have a couple thousand miles left on them anyway, this way I know I'll make it through my 2 longer trips this summer. Ordered an Avon, will have it Tuesday. The E3's I have on there are ok but pretty bad in the rain. Maybe Avons are no better but I'll give them a shot. Plus they are cupped pretty bad. And this way I don't have to scrub the gear oil off the side of the tire from the leaking seal  . I figure the Avons seem pretty well liked, I'll give them a shot. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2016, 11:57:05 AM » |
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Most like the Avon's better than E3s. However, that e3 shouldn't have cupped unless you were running low air pressure. Low would be any number less thN 40#
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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2016, 12:05:07 PM » |
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Tire was cupped when I got the bike last year. Was at 38. I upped it to 42 but the damage was done.
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2016, 12:09:00 PM » |
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Tire was cupped when I got the bike last year. Was at 38. I upped it to 42 but the damage was done.
10-4. 42# is a good number to give you the most comfortable ride with no cupping |
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2016, 02:18:29 PM » |
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If mine get cupped, I raise the bike and spin the wheel while using a belt sander to give it that like new roundness. Been doing that since the 60s on dual sports because those tires cup badly.
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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2016, 02:29:29 PM » |
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If mine get cupped, I raise the bike and spin the wheel while using a belt sander to give it that like new roundness. Been doing that since the 60s on dual sports because those tires cup badly.
Interesting. If I didn't have 2 holes in this tire and so little tread left in the middle, I'd give that a try. I live on the prairies...our tires wear out real flat in the middle and the sides only get used on trips or on cloverleafs. |
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2016, 04:13:29 PM » |
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If mine get cupped, I raise the bike and spin the wheel while using a belt sander to give it that like new roundness. Been doing that since the 60s on dual sports because those tires cup badly.
Interesting. If I didn't have 2 holes in this tire and so little tread left in the middle, I'd give that a try. I live on the prairies...our tires wear out real flat in the middle and the sides only get used on trips or on cloverleafs. Did you see where I was from????? |
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2016, 06:14:08 PM » |
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If mine get cupped, I raise the bike and spin the wheel while using a belt sander to give it that like new roundness. Been doing that since the 60s on dual sports because those tires cup badly.
Interesting. If I didn't have 2 holes in this tire and so little tread left in the middle, I'd give that a try. I live on the prairies...our tires wear out real flat in the middle and the sides only get used on trips or on cloverleafs. Did you see where I was from????? I guess you can relate then. |
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