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« on: June 05, 2016, 05:15:42 PM » |
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Well here goes. I originally wired my Dan Marc up to the spare accessory wire(s) of my '97 Standard. In the pic the solid red and green wires are the wires FROM the Dan Marc. The other wires are the wires from Valk accessory spare circuit.  I purchased a PC8 fuse panel and now I need the spare accessory circuit of the Valk for the switched lead on the PC8. Well, when I disconnect the Dan Marc I will run the solid color wires to the PC8. This will leave me with the 2 wires from the Valk access. That is the wire shown in the pic with blue on the tip of the wire.  This is the wire I need to connect FROM the PC8 TO the Valk accessory wire(s). 2 wires from Valk to 1 wire of fuse panel. I'm at a loss! Any help will be appreciated!
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2016, 05:29:14 PM » |
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I am not sure of your issue here. There should be 3 wires going to the PC's-8. Power from accessory (brown white) ground from accessory ( green). And a direct connection to the battery.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2016, 05:41:24 PM » |
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In the first pic you can see that I have the brown and green wires connected to the Dan Marc. (The PC8 is already wired directly to the battery). When I disconnect the Dan Marc from the accessory circuit(brown power/green ground) . The PC8(blue tipped wire in 2nd pic) needs to be connected to the Valk accessory circuit(brown and green wire(s)) This will allow power to PC8 fuse panel when the key is switched on. My problem(lack of knowledge) is their is only 1 wire coming FROM PC8 and 2 wires coming from Valk access circuit.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2016, 05:48:46 PM » |
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In the first pic you can see that I have the brown and green wires connected to the Dan Marc. (The PC8 is already wired directly to the battery). When I disconnect the Dan Marc from the accessory circuit(brown power/green ground) . The PC8(blue tipped wire in 2nd pic) needs to be connected to the Valk accessory circuit(brown and green wire(s)) This will allow power to PC8 fuse panel when the key is switched on. My problem(lack of knowledge) is their is only 1 wire coming FROM PC8 and 2 wires coming from Valk access circuit.
the 2 Valk acc. Wires are positive and neg. The one wire from the pc8 is positive. There should be a main ground wire from it also. (At least that's how I understand it)
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2016, 06:34:00 PM » |
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I looked over this, from Beaver. Wire diagram at the bottom of the page. http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/PC-8/Installation/installation.htmlYou should too. If I understand what I'm reading, you should have the fuse panel PC-8, and a wire harness. The wire harness has a ground, a battery hot, and a relayed hot. The instructions talk about a trigger for the relay (rear lights). Here is the wire harness, something to follow. http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/Wiring_Kits/wiring_kits.htmlEven though you have 2 leads on the Valk, it's positive and negative. You don't need to wire the negative to the fuse block, you can wire each devise directly to a ground (the frame), but the block has those nice screw in connectors, + & -.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2016, 07:54:34 PM » |
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Use the green wire in you first picture as your trigger wire to the PC-8 then wire your Dan Marc through the PC-8. I actually didn't know there were two acc wires I only saw the green when I wired mine.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2016, 03:47:01 AM » |
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Use the green wire in you first picture as your trigger wire to the PC-8 then wire your Dan Marc through the PC-8. I actually didn't know there were two acc wires I only saw the green when I wired mine.
I found a pic that I'd taken before I wired the DM. The accessory wire was 1 bullet connecter with both wires(green and brown) connected to it. As you said, I will connect the green wire from acc to the trigger for the PC8 and run a direct ground to the battery and connect it to the brown wire of the acc. Glad to see you made it home safe and sound. From what I've read you had a wet challenging trip. Hope you found some enjoyment in it anyway. Thanks for your response.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2016, 03:56:53 AM » |
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I looked over this, from Beaver. Wire diagram at the bottom of the page. http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/PC-8/Installation/installation.htmlYou should too. If I understand what I'm reading, you should have the fuse panel PC-8, and a wire harness. The wire harness has a ground, a battery hot, and a relayed hot. The instructions talk about a trigger for the relay (rear lights). Here is the wire harness, something to follow. http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/Wiring_Kits/wiring_kits.htmlEven though you have 2 leads on the Valk, it's positive and negative. You don't need to wire the negative to the fuse block, you can wire each devise directly to a ground (the frame), but the block has those nice screw in connectors, + & -. Gordon, I have looked over all the info you posted, previously. I have a complete harness for the PC8 just as pictured in your post. Not being an electrical guy. I have to assume that I will connect the green wire(Valk acc) to the blue tip wire FROM PC8(switched/trigger wire). I will then run a wire from brown(Valk acc) wire directly to the neg post on battery for a ground.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2016, 04:47:49 AM » |
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When I get home from work I will go out and look at mine just so I know I am telling you correctly. The PC-8 is already grounded to the battery with the harness provided. All the wire that goes to the trigger is doing is sending power to the relay so it lets power from the battery to the Pc-8.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2016, 05:24:52 AM » |
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I looked over this, from Beaver. Wire diagram at the bottom of the page. http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/PC-8/Installation/installation.htmlYou should too. If I understand what I'm reading, you should have the fuse panel PC-8, and a wire harness. The wire harness has a ground, a battery hot, and a relayed hot. The instructions talk about a trigger for the relay (rear lights). Here is the wire harness, something to follow. http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/Wiring_Kits/wiring_kits.htmlEven though you have 2 leads on the Valk, it's positive and negative. You don't need to wire the negative to the fuse block, you can wire each devise directly to a ground (the frame), but the block has those nice screw in connectors, + & -. Gordon, I have looked over all the info you posted, previously. I have a complete harness for the PC8 just as pictured in your post. Not being an electrical guy. I have to assume that I will connect the green wire(Valk acc) to the blue tip wire FROM PC8(switched/trigger wire). I will then run a wire from brown(Valk acc) wire directly to the neg post on battery for a ground. I'm no electrical expert, so take this for what it's worth. You should leave the brown Acc. Wire unused. You should use a good spot on the frame for your ground wire coming from the PC8. Mine is the nub that the right side cover attaches to. Your Dan Marc is going to be wired into a switched circuit on the PC8.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2016, 07:14:14 AM » |
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The PC-8 is already grounded to the battery with the harness provided.
This is my dilemma. Makes me hesitant to run a ground to battery. PC8 harness specifically, trigger wire is grounded through built in relay. Which as you mention is grounded to battery through the complete harness. Wondering if I should combine the 2 access wires together and connect to single trigger wire on PC8? This is how access wire looked before I installed Dan Marc: 
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2016, 09:18:47 AM » |
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The wire from the PC8 should be connected to the Brown/white wire fromthe accessory connection. the ground for the PC8 is shared so is already connected.
The green wire is a ground.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2016, 09:34:51 AM » |
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The accessory wires are Positive and negative. The Green is negative and grounds to the chassis. The Brown wire is the positive and hould be used to provide the switched power to the PC-8. The direct connection to the battery provides always on power to 2 of the circuits. The ground from the PC-8 can either ground at the battery or at a chassis ground. I am not sure the Accessory ground will handle the total requirement for the PC-8 so you are better to run a 14 gauge ground wire to the chassis or batter - terminal. if you are using a relay then there are different requirements. The Accessory will needed to trigger the relay and you will have no choice but to go to the battery for power. The Accessory will be the relay trigger +/-. the battery will be the power to the PC-8 through the relay (87).
I specifically use the accessory wires for this purpose. They provide the switched trigger to power al of the relays. They do not provide sufficient current carrying capacity to run a lot of stuff.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2016, 05:06:31 PM » |
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The accessory wires are Positive and negative. The Green is negative and grounds to the chassis. The Brown wire is the positive and hould be used to provide the switched power to the PC-8. The direct connection to the battery provides always on power to 2 of the circuits. The ground from the PC-8 can either ground at the battery or at a chassis ground. I am not sure the Accessory ground will handle the total requirement for the PC-8 so you are better to run a 14 gauge ground wire to the chassis or batter - terminal. if you are using a relay then there are different requirements. The Accessory will needed to trigger the relay and you will have no choice but to go to the battery for power. The Accessory will be the relay trigger +/-. the battery will be the power to the PC-8 through the relay (87).
I specifically use the accessory wires for this purpose. They provide the switched trigger to power al of the relays. They do not provide sufficient current carrying capacity to run a lot of stuff.
Exactly. You are the first to point out the acc power is minimal. It's fused at 5 amp. I wired that to the trigger of a 30amp relay, and ran the output of the relay to the switched buss of the PC-8. Running the acc to the PC-8 switched buss means that you have to run relays downstream off the buss, before any accessories that draw more power than say, a GPS or phone charger.
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2016, 07:22:14 AM » |
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The accessory wires are Positive and negative. The Green is negative and grounds to the chassis. The Brown wire is the positive and hould be used to provide the switched power to the PC-8. The direct connection to the battery provides always on power to 2 of the circuits. The ground from the PC-8 can either ground at the battery or at a chassis ground. I am not sure the Accessory ground will handle the total requirement for the PC-8 so you are better to run a 14 gauge ground wire to the chassis or batter - terminal. if you are using a relay then there are different requirements. The Accessory will needed to trigger the relay and you will have no choice but to go to the battery for power. The Accessory will be the relay trigger +/-. the battery will be the power to the PC-8 through the relay (87).
I specifically use the accessory wires for this purpose. They provide the switched trigger to power al of the relays. They do not provide sufficient current carrying capacity to run a lot of stuff.
Exactly. You are the first to point out the acc power is minimal. It's fused at 5 amp. I wired that to the trigger of a 30amp relay, and ran the output of the relay to the switched buss of the PC-8. Running the acc to the PC-8 switched buss means that you have to run relays downstream off the buss, before any accessories that draw more power than say, a GPS or phone charger. What you both are telling me is that: 1) I hook the brown wire FROM the acc. TO the trigger switch wire of the PC-8? 2) Run a ground FROM the green access TO either a chassis or neg post on battery?
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2016, 09:00:21 PM » |
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What you both are telling me is that: 1) I hook the brown wire FROM the acc. TO the trigger switch wire of the PC-8? 2) Run a ground FROM the green access TO either a chassis or neg post on battery? 1) you say trigger switch of the PC-8, you mean of the relay, which sends the battery voltage to the PC-8? 2) You don't need to touch the green of the acc. Instead, run a ground wire from the PC-8 ground to the frame/battery (the acc green is already grounded).
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