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« on: June 16, 2016, 09:52:58 AM » |
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Hello guys, when i pull the choke the engine just dies. i need to use the accelerator to rev up while pulling the choke so it will stay running.
funny thing is, while i had the air filter off. i started the bike and the choke worked flawlesly but once i put back the filter and closed the box, engine dies if i dont use the throttle a bit.
filter is K&N i had it off for washing and oiling.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 10:09:07 AM » |
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That seems pretty normal to me. My Valkyrie is the same way.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 11:16:55 AM » |
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It could be just a temporary "rich" situation. If you had just oiled the filter, maybe not enough air is getting through........YET!! Take it out for a spin, and the excess filter oil will be dissipated.......and allow the filter to breath better.
Using the "enrichener" will exacerbate the problem.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2016, 01:40:52 PM » |
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I've found if the engine dies when using the choke, that usually means the choke isn't needed. I seldom have to use mine and only for a minute or less when I do. Mostly in cold weather when the temps are dropping into the 40's and lower.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2016, 02:07:04 PM » |
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I've found if the engine dies when using the choke, that usually means the choke isn't needed. I seldom have to use mine and only for a minute or less when I do. Mostly in cold weather when the temps are dropping into the 40's and lower.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2016, 03:22:20 PM » |
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I don't know.......the term is "ENRICHENER"........and has been around for at least three decades now.......
NO bike made today, has a "CHOKE".......but I suppose I could see where the term is still confused.............
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2016, 04:22:00 PM » |
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I don't know.......the term is "ENRICHENER"........and has been around for at least three decades now.......
NO bike made today, has a "CHOKE".......but I suppose I could see where the term is still confused.............
Yes, and dragging out the reminder of its "official" name has been around about as long. So think about it, what is the function of the choke in its original application? It stifles the amount of air taken in which in turn does what.....it causes an enriched fuel air mixture. The enricher on a bike operates a bit different but the cause/effect is still the same. What I really find amusing is the icon imprinted on my choke/enricher control on the handlebar. It shows a butterfly valve positioned partially open inside a venturi, the very operational construction of the choke. Oh dear, now I'm confused.....am I controlling an enricher with a choke lever?  As for bikes with an old fashion choke, they're still out there, just not current models. A few years back I had a GL1000 with a single carb conversion. When I got done with the swap and tuned it accordingly it was a screamer.....and it had a choke.  |
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2016, 11:23:39 PM » |
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On the 1500 goldwing when the choke is applied (enricher) there is a hiss sound and the rpms increase, with my air filter off, I could hear that same hiss sound ans the rpms increased normally.
I have had the bike for a 150 km ride with no change. I may have over oiled the filter, do you think I should clean and lightly oil it again?
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2016, 04:27:03 AM » |
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You also need to know that the amount of time (if any) that you need to use the enrichment (choke), will be affected by the size of your low speed jets. 38 jets are larger than 35's, thus more fuel to aid on cold startups. My I/S has 35 and I use the enrichment for a minute on cold engine startups. URL=http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/2001valkyrie/media/image_zpsh0bjwz80.jpeg.html]  [/URL] |
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2016, 07:32:04 AM » |
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i have no clue what jet size mi bike has, i rebuilt the carbs when i got it but i forgot to take note on that.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2016, 11:25:04 AM » |
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I don't know.......the term is "ENRICHENER"........and has been around for at least three decades now.......
NO bike made today, has a "CHOKE".......but I suppose I could see where the term is still confused.............
LED it may be called an enricher by some but Mother Honda calls it a choke! If you don't believe me pull out your service manual and look on sec.5 page 5. Clearly states "Choke"  |
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2016, 02:16:28 PM » |
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Why would you need to engage the choke with the engine running?
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2016, 03:37:07 PM » |
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Why would you need to engage the choke with the engine running?
I put mine on a little in the morning to keep the revs up while I'm putting my helmet and gloves on. Otherwise it will die sometimes without a little throttle. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2016, 12:44:04 PM » |
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Why would you need to engage the choke with the engine running?
I put mine on a little in the morning to keep the revs up while I'm putting my helmet and gloves on. Otherwise it will die sometimes without a little throttle. xactly (me too) I leave about 50% choke idle at 1,000 until the rpms start to drop (aprox 1 minute) and then choke goes off |
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2016, 06:40:30 PM » |
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I have a question possibly related. Would appreciate some advice.
I lifted my fuel tank up a few inches the other day to fix a signal light cable. Since placing the tank back as it was before, the engine starts to smoke from the right exhaust/right side of the bike. When I use choke the engine stops/dies.
I haven't ridden the bike for the last 5 -6 months, but I do ocassionally turn it on and heat it up for 5 or 10 mins - however, this usually leads to an intense smell of gasoline, which again only comes from the right side of the bike.
(No sign of gasoline leaking on the ground though.)
Do you guys think this has to do with the choke, or did I break the fuel petcock from the inside (somehow?) when I moved the gas tank?
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2016, 07:12:47 PM » |
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I have a question possibly related. Would appreciate some advice.
I lifted my fuel tank up a few inches the other day to fix a signal light cable. Since placing the tank back as it was before, the engine starts to smoke from the right exhaust/right side of the bike. When I use choke the engine stops/dies.
I haven't ridden the bike for the last 5 -6 months, but I do ocassionally turn it on and heat it up for 5 or 10 mins - however, this usually leads to an intense smell of gasoline, which again only comes from the right side of the bike.
(No sign of gasoline leaking on the ground though.)
Do you guys think this has to do with the choke, or did I break the fuel petcock from the inside (somehow?) when I moved the gas tank?
When it does this look down in the right side of the engine by the carbs. Is gas dripping there ? If I don't ride my standard for a while the fuel rails will leak here on the right side. So far they have always sealed back up. |
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Memor86
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2016, 09:51:50 AM » |
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Why would you need to engage the choke with the engine running?
to keep rpms high after cold start up. Thats what it is for is not it? |
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2016, 06:31:14 AM » |
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No, it is not a throttle control. It has nothing to do with the throttle.
All it does is increase the amount of gasoline sent to the cylinder.
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2016, 07:04:34 AM » |
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To start a Cold Valk.
Choke ON
Ignition ON
Start Button PRESS
Start Button RELEASE
RPM will increase to about 1500 -2000 then slowly creep to around 3000
At this point choke off and ride
If the engine is running and you turn the choke ON you flood the bike and it either stutters really bad for a bit before picking up or it stalls. Choke first then start. No harm in turning the choke on every time until you get to know your bike
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