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Please see this thread on this board: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,8783.new.html#newI take great offense to being called a bigot, a racist, sexist (anti-gay), etc becaue I stated that I didn't agree with a children's song. I believe this person has gone too far and it should really be looked into. I do not think I am over-exagerating. Any educated person can see what he was saying. This is outrageous. Even for him. I don't want the thread pulled. I would like all to see how low this person will stoop.
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2009, 11:05:10 AM » |
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Take a chill pill son, because nobody called you nothing. You do have a vivid imagination for which I give you high marks.  Shades of McCarthy... you better 'look into me'. I believe this person has gone too far and it should really be looked into.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2009, 11:41:52 AM » |
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Please see this thread on this board: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,8783.new.html#newI take great offense to being called a bigot, a racist, sexist (anti-gay), etc becaue I stated that I didn't agree with a children's song. I believe this person has gone too far and it should really be looked into. I do not think I am over-exagerating. Any educated person can see what he was saying. This is outrageous. Even for him. I don't want the thread pulled. I would like all to see how low this person will stoop. Gman (Strong Acorn) is just stirring it up not sure where he rents his furniture still waiting for pictures of his bike LOL!!!
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2009, 12:14:22 PM » |
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G-man:
As a neutral observer, I can see where there could be a misunderstanding.
Your post was very succinct and made no reference to why you thought the phrase "equal in his sight" was troublesome. The posts have been edited, but as I write this the complete post is:
I was fine with it, until the end where they sing that all the colors of people are "equal in his sight"
If you honestly look at your post and pretend you don't know what you meant, you can see that the post could easily be misconstrued as having racist overtones.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2009, 01:03:29 PM » |
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G-man:
As a neutral observer, I can see where there could be a misunderstanding.
Your post was very succinct and made no reference to why you thought the phrase "equal in his sight" was troublesome. The posts have been edited, but as I write this the complete post is:
I was fine with it, until the end where they sing that all the colors of people are "equal in his sight"
If you honestly look at your post and pretend you don't know what you meant, you can see that the post could easily be misconstrued as having racist overtones.
Please see my reply in the other thread. Don't be fooled, like I have been, with this guy. Some say he's just stirring the pot, but enough is enough. At this point in our history, there is nothing worse than labelling someone a bigot, or anti-(insert ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc.). This is MO of people now in order to shut the other down. This should not be OK to do.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2009, 01:07:16 PM » |
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That is why they call this the "sandbox". Calm down. There is a long winter ahead.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 01:33:03 PM » |
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Please see my reply in the other thread. Don't be fooled, like I have been, with this guy. Some say he's just stirring the pot, but enough is enough. At this point in our history, there is nothing worse than labelling someone a bigot, or anti-(insert ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc.). This is MO of people now in order to shut the other down. This should not be OK to do.
I agree with you 100%, which actually why I chose to comment on this situation. It is so disgusting how pundits and politicians (and now news networks!) will falsely but intentionally label their opponents. Bad enough when it's intentional, so better to address it when it may not be. Actually the disgusting part isn't the politicians - that's their nature: to win and control. The disgusting part is that so many Americans just lap up the false labeling without question. Rush Limbaugh says so-and-so's a socialist? Then he is. Al Sharpton says so-and-so's a racist? That sonofabitch.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 03:03:30 PM » |
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Friendly advice to all....Talk more about motorcycles and less about politics.  I say Mobil 1 is the best dang lubricant out there and adds at least 15 HP to my Valkyrie. 
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2009, 03:23:25 PM » |
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First the whole thread is ridiculous and reactionary, The most of the very voclal of this board will never except President Obama as our countries duly elected President. His speech to school children was motivational. Indoctionary? put that with your "death panels" and birther crap.
Several points:
Chairman Mao was in fact one of the top three mass murderers in history and a syphilitic monster
President Obama is our President
Gary is not a racist, but who said that anyway?
My Valkyrie is Red and White, goes very fast, is a Dark Sider and uses Mobil 1!
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2009, 03:32:08 PM » |
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Would be faster if ya painted it BLACK ! ! And the best oil is CLEAN oil! Change that stuff and the filter too! 
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2009, 03:50:49 AM » |
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sraight mobil-1 or momil-1 4t? 
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2009, 04:07:59 AM » |
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sraight mobil-1 or momil-1 4t?  You're Avon's suck. My bike has Metzler 880s, no wobble and better mileage.
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2009, 05:11:11 AM » |
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Please see this thread on this board: http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,8783.new.html#newI take great offense to being called a bigot, a racist, sexist (anti-gay), etc because I stated that I didn't agree with a children's song. I believe this person has gone too far and it should really be looked into. I do not think I am over-exaggerating. Any educated person can see what he was saying. This is outrageous. Even for him. I don't want the thread pulled. I would like all to see how low this person will stoop. Gary,
I read all the threads. Sometimes I wish I didn't have to.
I sympathize with your offense. Even I don't like to be called a bigot, a racist, and sexist, and I am one! 
Hold the high ground, Gary. Illegitimi non carborundum, doctor.
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2009, 05:45:35 AM » |
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Gman (Strong Acorn) is just stirring it up not sure where he rents his furniture still waiting for pictures of his bike LOL!!!
That's pretty funny! Okay, Gman... aka Strong Acorn... where's your bike... here's mine... PS: My furniture is purchased... how about yours? Do you have furniture? LOL. Kidding. And truly, I made no implication that you were/are any of the above. OK? As for the bike(s) Current - the only days I don't ride it is when I am out of Singapore.  Last in the US  My first... totaled in a non riding wreck  What are YOU riding.
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2009, 06:14:09 AM » |
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Friendly advice to all....Talk more about motorcycles and less about politics.  I say Mobil 1 is the best dang lubricant out there and adds at least 15 HP to my Valkyrie.  +1 As i've said before....this country is basically split down the middle....almost 50/50. and while sometimes i find it amazing how different...IN SOME WAYS...we can be....that's just the way it is. And it's also amazing how far apart we are. one side sees it one way, and claims EVERYTHING about their man is good...anyone who doesn't agree is a moron, etc. And...THE OTHER SIDE...feels just as adamant the other way. We had 8 years of the Dems slamming Bush. Now stay tuned...for x number of years of the Pubs slamming Obama. there apprears to be no middle ground. SO WHY GO THERE?why not concentrate on the things we DO HAVE IN COMMON. ie....the Valk.........and then we can limit our pitiful arguments with each other to "oh, he's a Trailer Queen...death to him"...."oh, he's gone dark side, what on earth was he thinking?" ...." you run brand x oil in your bike, what are you, a moron?"....etc. hey, still ugly at times...but at least there is SOME middle ground! 
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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2009, 06:43:32 AM » |
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First the whole thread is ridiculous and reactionary, The most of the very voclal of this board will never except President Obama as our countries duly elected President. His speech to school children was motivational. Indoctionary? put that with your "death panels" and birther crap.
Several points:
Chairman Mao was in fact one of the top three mass murderers in history and a syphilitic monster
President Obama is our President
Gary is not a racist, but who said that anyway?
My Valkyrie is Red and White, goes very fast, is a Dark Sider and uses Mobil 1!
Occasionally someone posts something which completely explains why we find ourselves with such a dysfunctional government. Several counterpoints: The most of the very voclal of this board will never except President Obama as our countries duly elected President.I'm sure that many are impressed that based on the content of this thread you where able to make this conclusion. I'm sure that the critics who are complaining about folks drawing conclusions based on the ACORN video will now shut up, clearly you have demonstrated that it takes very little evidence to draw an intelligent conclusion. But before you grab the crown from Marilyn vos Savant, you might want to take a look at the difference in meaning of EXCEPT vs. ACCEPT. His speech to school children was motivational.This thread had nothing to do with "his" speech to school children...I am assuming that you are referring to President Obama's recent address to the nations school children. As far as Obama's speech to the school children, I completely agree that it was excellent, as a matter of fact in a thread during the past couple of weeks I stated that I thought it was an excellent gesture on the part of the president. This thread dealt with an activist elementary teacher in New Jersey having her classroom sing songs praising Obama, a song very similar to one in reference to Jesus Christ. I appreciate and respect folks who challenge me on my opinions, however I do expect that they understand the facts that they are calling me on. It becomes clear to me that you did not take time to understand what the thread was about in the first place. Chairman Mao was in fact one of the top three mass murderers in history and a syphilitic monsterI absolutely agree....I am still searching the previous thread to find some verbiage that contradicts this. Gary is not a racist, but who said that anyway?We finally find some common ground....I agree completely!
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2009, 07:48:47 AM » |
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Wayne for whatever differences we might have on world issues, I certainly agree with your choice of bikes....it appears you have been a faithful Valkyrie owner for quite a few years! That 2000 I/S is really sweet.
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2009, 07:59:30 AM » |
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and i've had a Valkyrie.....since 30 July 1997 !!! +1 for me.... but........i trailer often...........-1 for me 
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2009, 08:01:52 AM » |
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Gman (Strong Acorn) is just stirring it up not sure where he rents his furniture still waiting for pictures of his bike LOL!!!
That's pretty funny! Okay, Gman... aka Strong Acorn... where's your bike... here's mine... PS: My furniture is purchased... how about yours? Do you have furniture? LOL. Kidding. And truly, I made no implication that you were/are any of the above. OK? As for the bike(s) Current - the only days I don't ride it is when I am out of Singapore.  Last in the US  My first... totaled in a non riding wreck  What are YOU riding. ( SE )Respectfully as i defended David Kaiser a librial on the Obama bashing letter as we know he works for The war college as professor and anybody with common since would or should have known you just dont see right wingers teaching anymore no secret. Having said that i am Independent Fiscal conservative no secret. I new before your post ( I served millions in Harris county) That you make a living off Tax payers backs. So for your defense to your left wing party is just as extreme as the right wing party. It is (NOT) about the right or the left! IT'S ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG. It"s Not about Oboma & Busch its Our Country not The Federal governments country (WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT) the talking heads are PUBLIC SERVANTS!! But now it seems now they are Royalty. I have a lot at stake my son LTC SPECIAL OPERATIONS AC 130 SPECTER GUNSHIP. As i give my opinion HE WORKS FOR THE REAL FED GOV THAT I SUPPORT.. As far as your comment Gov jobs are like any other PLEASE I have been self employed 34 years and have just recently started just like gov paying my business expense with MONOPOLY GAME MONEY!!
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2009, 08:05:10 AM » |
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Wayne for whatever differences we might have on world issues, I certainly agree with your choice of bikes....it appears you have been a faithful Valkyrie owner for quite a few years! That 2000 I/S is really sweet.
Thank you for that, Jim. A board is so limited, and for all that is said we're probably more alike than different. And yes... without question... the finest bike in the world... still a huge grin factor after more than a decade of riding. Peace, brother.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2009, 08:29:24 AM » |
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BTW (SE) Nice bike!! Pretty S/O I will post pics this weekend got to get battery for camera PS try to go to as much Valk events look at Rhode Island ride 9-20-09 pics Greg, BLACK & BLOWN Valkyrie in picture. Also Trophy at D.O.T.S 2nd place Wildest Valk TENN. Valkyrie. Peace.
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2009, 03:41:16 PM » |
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In stating the obvious and going out of my way to be tactful obnoxious, I might of left out a bit. The important statement was this:
My friend Gary is not a racist, However, he rides a Black Valkyrie which is almost as pretty as my Red And White one!
I also realize my politics are definitely "Left of Center" which might put me in the minority on this board. One of the most important rules I try and live by is: Never take your self to seriously.
Thanks for posting to remind me of that!
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2009, 05:37:02 PM » |
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I also realize my politics are definitely "Left of Center" which might put me in the minority on this board. One of the most important rules I try and live by is: Never take your self to seriously.
Bonzo for what its worth, I am of the belief that even if ones opinions are in the minority, if they are based on sound reasoning they need to be heard! Anyway your a big guy, you look like you could handle yourself quite well even if you are in the minority!
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