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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2016, 06:08:59 AM »

I've seen people make comments about Trump's never serving any elected position being unacceptable. Eisenhower's first elected office was President. He seemed to do well.
I have no problem with him not being elected before. But to compare a guy who avoided military service because his Dad had some pull to a guy like Eisenhower who served his country nearly his entire life is more than a stretch.  coolsmiley

Since the original goes back to not having elected office, and since Eisenhower is the only one who somewhat recently fits that bill, who else do you think would be a better comparison to?

What per cent of the population Donald's age served in the military?  I do not know, but it would be way under 50%.  Does that then make then ineligible  to be President?  What about Obama and the Clintons?  Both of them? None of them served.
I never said any of that. I think my post was pretty clear.
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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2016, 06:57:30 AM »

The "Media Party"(left wing MSM) are doing  everything they can to demonize Trump.  The New York Times...Boston Globe...CNN...Washington Post...etc. and the Left Wing Universities and Colleges have a vested interest in seeing Hillary as POTUS.
The average millennial is more concerned with Pokemon Go than their future...we were much the same at that age...but...we didn't vote at that age...there is now a push at many "educational" institutions to set up polls for election day because they know these low information kids will vote for Clinton.
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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2016, 07:10:31 AM »

The "Media Party"(left wing MSM) are doing  everything they can to demonize Trump.  The New York Times...Boston Globe...CNN...Washington Post...etc. and the Left Wing Universities and Colleges have a vested interest in seeing Hillary as POTUS.
The average millennial is more concerned with Pokemon Go than their future...we were much the same at that age...but...we didn't vote at that age...there is now a push at many "educational" institutions to set up polls for election day because they know these low information kids will vote for Clinton.
I have voted since I turned 18. Trump has created his own issues. Just as Clinton has created hers. To blame their faults on media is disingenuous .
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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2016, 07:28:57 AM »

Same here!!  I registered to vote at 18, and voted at the next election. BUT Again! you don't have to wait to till election day to express you views and choices,  You can write a letter, email or call your Local, State and Federal Representatives, don't wait till Nov., do it now, and ask your questions and express your feeling to them. Telling them nothing, make them think the world is working perfect, get my point.
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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2016, 07:35:09 AM »

I've seen people make comments about Trump's never serving any elected position being unacceptable. Eisenhower's first elected office was President. He seemed to do well.
I have no problem with him not being elected before. But to compare a guy who avoided military service because his Dad had some pull to a guy like Eisenhower who served his country nearly his entire life is more than a stretch.  coolsmiley

Since the original goes back to not having elected office, and since Eisenhower is the only one who somewhat recently fits that bill, who else do you think would be a better comparison to?

I never said any of that. I think my post was pretty clear.

My mistake again.  I thought when you compared Trumps service record, to Eisenhowers, and said it was a stretch, I assumed you were comparing the fact that Trump did not serve, to Eisenhower, who did.  I guess my saying that since Eisenhower is the only recent President who had not held elected office before, that I thought it was a valid comparison.  I guess I did not read that right.
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« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2016, 07:39:42 AM »

I've seen people make comments about Trump's never serving any elected position being unacceptable. Eisenhower's first elected office was President. He seemed to do well.
I have no problem with him not being elected before. But to compare a guy who avoided military service because his Dad had some pull to a guy like Eisenhower who served his country nearly his entire life is more than a stretch.  coolsmiley

Since the original goes back to not having elected office, and since Eisenhower is the only one who somewhat recently fits that bill, who else do you think would be a better comparison to?

I never said any of that. I think my post was pretty clear.

My mistake again.  I thought when you compared Trumps service record, to Eisenhowers, and said it was a stretch, I assumed you were comparing the fact that Trump did not serve, to Eisenhower, who did.  I guess my saying that since Eisenhower is the only recent President who had not held elected office before, that I thought it was a valid comparison.  I guess I did not read that right.
No problem MP  cooldude I have the utmost respect for Eisenhower. I wish we could find some like him in this day and age.
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« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2016, 02:14:59 PM »

I've seen people make comments about Trump's never serving any elected position being unacceptable. Eisenhower's first elected office was President. He seemed to do well.
I have no problem with him not being elected before. But to compare a guy who avoided military service because his Dad had some pull to a guy like Eisenhower who served his country nearly his entire life is more than a stretch.  coolsmiley

Since the original goes back to not having elected office, and since Eisenhower is the only one who somewhat recently fits that bill, who else do you think would be a better comparison to?

What per cent of the population Donald's age served in the military?  I do not know, but it would be way under 50%.  Does that then make then ineligible  to be President?  What about Obama and the Clintons?  Both of them? None of them served.

That's a funny one Mel.  If they had served, they would have found their way to courts-martial.

Bill for felony diddling with his cigars, Hilly for dereliction of duty (or eating girl scout cookies), a the Zero would have peed positive for any number of things (and maybe eating boy scout cookies).

I like the idea of a president having past (honorable) military service (leaving out Kerry).  It is not a requirement;  but recall, in our founding father's time, every able bodied man was considered a militia member.  

On the other hand, the military has been so much much better off without this bunch of dickweeds ever having served.  It's bad enough they serve in the big G.  Be so much better if they served.... time.

We've all seen it before, but it's as funny the 15th time as the first.  


The list of all presidents with some military service is larger than most think. (some piddling, some risked their lives, repeatedly)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_military_service
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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2016, 06:22:10 AM »

As varmintmist points out he has no political credentials conservative or liberal.  He's simply pandering to his audience at the moment.  You don't know WHAT he's likely to do in office, nor does he. He has no detailed plans except what his mouth says at the moment.  Let the debates begin. We have the choices we have and I'm not going to vote for an inexperienced braggadocious blow hard.  He's simply trying to satisfy such an unquenchable ego it borders on mental illness.

Every single candidate for that office is an egomaniac, or they wouldn't want it. I positively know what a Clinton Presidency will do to this country. A Trump Presidency is an unknown. I'll take an unknown over a destructive every time.

 cooldude cooldude

How anyone who loves this country could vote for her is a complete and total mystery. 

And staying home, is a vote for her.
Maybe this country is hopelessly divided. I can't for the live of me understand how any patriotic person who loves this country could vote for Trump. I do understand the idea of voting against Clinton, I get it. But how anybody thinks this guy is going to be good for our country just baffles me. Which makes me sad, because that implies we are going to be divided for the foreseeable future.  Embarrassed

I agree. An excellent assessment of the situation.
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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2016, 08:16:19 AM »

Hey! Your forgot G.W.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushcheerleader.htm
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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2016, 08:42:55 AM »

As varmintmist points out he has no political credentials conservative or liberal.  He's simply pandering to his audience at the moment.  You don't know WHAT he's likely to do in office, nor does he. He has no detailed plans except what his mouth says at the moment.  Let the debates begin. We have the choices we have and I'm not going to vote for an inexperienced braggadocious blow hard.  He's simply trying to satisfy such an unquenchable ego it borders on mental illness.

Every single candidate for that office is an egomaniac, or they wouldn't want it. I positively know what a Clinton Presidency will do to this country. A Trump Presidency is an unknown. I'll take an unknown over a destructive every time.

 cooldude cooldude

How anyone who loves this country could vote for her is a complete and total mystery. 

And staying home, is a vote for her.
Maybe this country is hopelessly divided. I can't for the live of me understand how any patriotic person who loves this country could vote for Trump. I do understand the idea of voting against Clinton, I get it. But how anybody thinks this guy is going to be good for our country just baffles me. Which makes me sad, because that implies we are going to be divided for the foreseeable future.  Embarrassed
We have been divided for a long time and it did not start with Trump or Hillary and it will not end with their demise.

I think the concept is voting for someone BETTER than Hillary, since there are really only two current choices.
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« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2016, 08:45:40 AM »

As varmintmist points out he has no political credentials conservative or liberal.  He's simply pandering to his audience at the moment.  You don't know WHAT he's likely to do in office, nor does he. He has no detailed plans except what his mouth says at the moment.  Let the debates begin. We have the choices we have and I'm not going to vote for an inexperienced braggadocious blow hard.  He's simply trying to satisfy such an unquenchable ego it borders on mental illness.

Every single candidate for that office is an egomaniac, or they wouldn't want it. I positively know what a Clinton Presidency will do to this country. A Trump Presidency is an unknown. I'll take an unknown over a destructive every time.

 cooldude cooldude

How anyone who loves this country could vote for her is a complete and total mystery. 

And staying home, is a vote for her.
Maybe this country is hopelessly divided. I can't for the live of me understand how any patriotic person who loves this country could vote for Trump. I do understand the idea of voting against Clinton, I get it. But how anybody thinks this guy is going to be good for our country just baffles me. Which makes me sad, because that implies we are going to be divided for the foreseeable future.  Embarrassed
We have been divided for a long time and it did not start with Trump or Hillary and it will not end with their demise.

I think the concept is voting for someone BETTER than Hillary, since there are really only two current choices.
I know the odds are long. But if Gary Johnson can get into the debates anything can happen.
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