Ok what is wrong with this picture???

[_Sheffjs_]

I have seen this on FB many times in a thread called "the way we were".

Do you see what I see?

[RDAbull]

I have seen this on FB many times in a thread called "the way we were".

Do you see what I see?

Yep.   Maybe they want you to change your name.

[_Sheffjs_]

It is not the big Shef although that is funny

Look more

[Grumpy]

Did not have video cameras in stores back then.   

[_Sheffjs_]

 

Yep so the pic looks liget, was it added in for fun.   Most likely

[Flrider]

Yep, it's the camera.

[Steel cowboy]

I don't know Jerry. The camera seems to fit the age, I'm thinking late sixties. The bulk of it and the fact it's only a record and not real time (the lack of a coax cable) and the huge lens too. I think it could be real. Personally I thought you were commenting on the bike behind the camera man 
The rain is getting to me, "Soggy Bottom Boys" is becoming a reality.

[_Sheffjs_]

I don't know Jerry. The camera seems to fit the age, I'm thinking late sixties. The bulk of it and the fact it's only a record and not real time (the lack of a coax cable) and the huge lens too. I think it could be real. Personally I thought you were commenting on the bike behind the camera man  
The rain is getting to me, "Soggy Bottom Boys" is becoming a reality.

No way for the 60s in fast food restaurants.  High Level stuff, yes.   

[Steel cowboy]

In the U.S. the first commercial closed-circuit television system became available in 1949, called Vericon. Very little is known about Vericon except it was advertised as not requiring a government permit.
Maybe it was a high crime area

[_Sheffjs_]

In the U.S. the first commercial closed-circuit television system became available in 1949, called Vericon. Very little is known about Vericon except it was advertised as not requiring a government permit.
Maybe it was a high crime area

Sure looks like a high crime area to me  

Where is the coaxial cable?      Photoshop 

[RDAbull]

Thanks John. 
I only remembered the Chef part.  Just thought they changed it for sheffjs. 

[Moofner]

The problem is I wasn't born when this photo was taken! My dad was probably 10 years old himself.

[hubcapsc]

the guy behind the counter actually looks like he's enjoying his job.

That seems to be one of the employment requirements at Chic-fil-a...

-Mike

[_Sheffjs_]

Notice in the second paragraph it refers to the Big Shef as a mainstay on the Burger Chef menu in the 70's. And yes, it was spelled both ways; Shef for the burger, Chef for the company name. The lights hanging from the ceiling are part of the standard Burger Chef decor. It was owned by General Foods, started in 1954, started selling out in the early 80's to Hardee's. The only thing I see off by today's standards is the kid taking the order and the customer; nice clean cut dudes, the guy behind the counter actually looks like he's enjoying his job.

http://investor.ckr.com/press-release/hardees/hardees-brings-back-burger-chef-big-sheftm-hamburger-limited-time-select-marke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXQhnDbUXk0

So you all believe they had a camera in a burger joint in the 60s?   With only a power cord? 

[_Sheffjs_]

Nope. It's photo shopped.   There is no coax. 

[Flrider]

Nope. It's photo shopped.   There is no coax. 

Come on man, no coax needed, it was bluetooth   

[_Sheffjs_]

Nope. It's photo shopped.   There is no coax. 

Come on man, no coax needed, it was bluetooth   

Jack, thinking out of the box.     Jack in the Box, that is another good one we had.  We also had Dog and Suds. And A&W.   I want a burger now.

[_Sheffjs_]

You are wrong, they did not have cameras in burger joints in the 60s.   I was there.  It is photo shopped.

[Bronxboy]

IDGAS 

[_Sheffjs_]

Nor do I.     time for bed. My iPad is down to 8%. 

[Grumpy]

Nope. It's photo shopped.   There is no coax. 

Come on man, no coax needed, it was bluetooth   

Jack, thinking out of the box.     Jack in the Box, that is another good one we had.  We also had Dog and Suds. And A&W.   I want a burger now.

I do not know why Jack in the box disappeared here, they are all over the place out west. Texas still has a lot of them.

[Steel cowboy]

Ok Jerry, you said you were there I figure the picture and the date, date back to 4/27/1950 or 4/27/1961 or 4/27/1967. I belive 4/27/1972 is to late for that picture. By the way all the dates were on a Thursday. So when were you there 

[Jess from VA]

Interesting stories John.  

In 1984-5, a huge shortfall of inventory was discovered at the Maxwell AFB commissary (grocery).  Like one of two big warehouses was nearly empty, though on paper it was full.  AFOSI opened an investigation very quietly.  It was clear the manager and a couple top people were doctoring the paperwork, but there was no idea where all the food went.  

So at night, the techies installed cameras above each of many cash registers, and they figured a way to superimpose the register readouts in the bottom corner of the video feed for each.  A million feet of tape revealed that 3-4 checkers (though there was one main offender) had developed a system to give away food to friends and others who probably kicked back cash (principally owners of small family owned BBQ and other restaurants in the local area).  Anyone who served in the military knows that (cheap) commissary food cannot legally be resold commercially by restaurants, or anyone else.

Bar codes would be scanned (beep) but instead of hitting enter, the cashier hit cancel (beep), all with experienced lightning speed finger motions, so no one could see anything wrong on the floor.  Large and cheap items would be correctly entered, but multiple hams, turkeys, seafood, steak and other high dollar items were all cancelled.  The buyer would pay a nominal bill and go out and load their car.  On regular occasions, these special buyers checked out with multiple carts all stacked high with prime meats.  It was unknown (and undiscoverable) how long this had been going on, but long enough to empty an entire warehouse, probably 3-5 years.

After a lot of video watching and other work, on a fateful day, 7-10 people were fired for various offenses.  It turned out the manager and assistant were not part of the theft ring at all, but they had falsified records to cover up the losses (and jacked up prices all over the store to try to earn back some loses), and had been desperately trying to find out what was going on themselves and put a stop to it, with no luck.  The checkers were the big offenders, in what amounted to a half to 3/4 million dollar fraud.  A meat cutter had been enlisted to help the manager by leaving lots of fat and bone on meats to increase net sales (by weight).  He was the least of the guilty, but he got fired too.

We fired them, and each checker appealed their firing to the Merit System Protection Board (civil service labor appeal system), and this is how I got involved as I had to run the Agency cases against them.  I got to spend weeks watching video with OSI techies explaining what we were watching.  It was far from hi def stuff and damn hard to follow, even with slow mo.  This became my whole job at the base legal office (my office full to the ceiling of boxes of tapes and evidence), and after two cases, we turned the rest over to the HQ USAF labor specialists (thank God).  

Maxwell being an exclusive federal enclave, we went to the US Attorney in Montgomery to get him to prosecute criminally, and he saw no political gain in it for him and he was not interested.  I had volunteered to go overseas, my orders came through, and after a lot of press (and probably nasty phone calls), the US attorney changed his mind and decided to prosecute, and wanted me to help him.  I was sick of the whole thing (and him).  Of course as a captain I had no vote, but I wanted out and my boss thought my 6 months on this was enough, so the SOB went up the chain and tried to get my orders cancelled so I could work for him for the next year.  Fortunately that did not happen.

This case is the reason that around this time, every military commissary in the world put a person on the floor to direct each customer from a single line to the next available register, randomly, so no checker and customer could ever easily collude in fraud like this again.

Today, anyone who wants to break the law, or speed, or pee behind the bushes, or scratch his ass in public better look around because he's probably on camera.  

[Grumpy]

We had some thing like that in 1963, I worked for Hathaway homes is St Louis,Mo  we built prefab homes and other buildings.  Each home was built in a shop, walls prefabbed , all lumber precut and labeled. Also trusses were assembled there. I ran the truss shop.  We carried every thing for the houses in the yard, all plumbing fixtures, appliances, cabinets etc. We could ship out a house, and it could be assembled and finished in a week.  We did inventory after Thanksgiving, slow part of the year.  We found material and appliances missing, enough to build 6 complete homes and equip them.  Video cameras sucked back then, and were worthless at night. The plant ran from 6 am until 12 pm. The crews would leave, except for 2 foremen and some fork lift drivers to restock the shops for the next days production. We ended up hiring a couple private detectives to watch the yard at night. The Ford assembly plant was next door, they set up there with infrared cameras. Not video, film cameras.  Bottom line, the foremen and drivers were caught red handed, they loaded a semi one night with all the components for a complete home.  They had a contractor that was building the homes out side the St Louis area, and then selling them.  The whole bunch got some serious time  in the state pen, including the contractor.

[Bronxboy]

Jerry U created a monster with a simple picture. Before we know it, this picture will be a clue into the whereabouts of Jimmy Hoffa 

[RDAbull]

Jerry U created a monster with a simple picture. Before we know it, this picture will be a clue into the whereabouts of Jimmy Hoffa 

Well, If we had the cursed camera, we would know where Jimmy was.

[Moofner]

The problem is I wasn't born when this photo was taken! My dad was probably 10 years old himself.

Geez, thanks a lot Moofner, now I REALLY feel old.    

I just looked at your profile....I have grandkids older than you. I suddenly feel real tired! 

Happy to be of tired assistance Granddad!

I feel that I should save this picture, print it out, and bring it with me when I visit the Orlando area in October. I was hoping to meet up with you all again for breakfast. I'm bringing both bikes and letting my best friend ride the 1800. I can easily bring "Camera-Gate 2016" with me, too!

[_Sheffjs_]

You never know where a thread will go. I just want to know one thing, who figured out the date on the calendar and found out what years has that day and date.   

    

   

[Steel cowboy]

I just googled the date and day for the last 99 years. Just having fun with you Jerry and this thread. 

[Bronxboy]

I see John took his Posts and went home 
He did know this was all in fun right 

[_Sheffjs_]

 

Just fun.    I started the thread because of the crickets at that time.   

[Grumpy]

MMMM chocolate coated crickets 

[John Schmidt]

I see John took his Posts and went home 
He did know this was all in fun right 

I suspected as much, however the tone of a couple posts prompted me to just vacate the area. Watch out for paybacks, they can be hell.....and totally unexpected. 

[Steel cowboy]

See what happens when you mention Jimmy Hoffa, it gets quiet and things start to disappear.