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Author Topic: First time- rear diff and wheel removal questions  (Read 1303 times)
rhubarbray
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« on: August 12, 2016, 07:48:21 PM »

Ok, I`ve just had the bike a little while and I`ve got the rear wheel off and the rear diff off.  When I was cleaning off the old grease and paste I noticed that the spacer that goes in the rear diff was bulged at one end. Now, when taking the nut off the axle I did notice that it was quite tight. I just want to make sure that the PO didn`t overtorque the axle and crush the spacer. The bulged area is .100" larger that the tube od.
 Is this normal? I looked on the online fiches and they seem to show the two ends are different.

Also, while I`ve got your attention, how the hell do you get the drive shaft out of the pinion cup?! Is it in with a snap clip? Mine will move in and out about 1/8" - 1/4" but won`t come out.

Wanted to add a pic but don`t see the option. Have to look it up before posting again.
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2016, 08:11:57 PM »

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Honda/Motorcycle/1999/GL1500CF+AC/FINAL+DRIVEN+GEAR/parts.html
Are you talking about #20 ? Yes it's bulged out. Main thing to rear end service IMO is cleaning , regreasing, and putting it back in the proper suquence. Don't forget your plastic spacer on the wheel.  Smiley we've seen plenty of posts that show the result of that.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2016, 08:15:31 PM »

If your are referring to the axle spacer that goes between the swing arm and the wheel, it is larger on one end.  The driveshaft has a wire clip that retains it in the pinion cup, just push in on the drive shaft then snatch it out. That is the way it is designed. When you reassemble it just push it in and the clip will catch again.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2016, 08:19:05 PM »

For pictures you have to upload them to a hosting site like photobucket, then put the address within image tags like this: [ img ]http://www.website.com/image.jpg[ /img ] except no spaces.
I have no clue about your spacer bulge. We need a picture to see what you're talking about. The drive shaft is removed with a quick forceful jerk on the shaft. I wish there was a better way to say that.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2016, 09:17:53 PM »

For pictures you have to upload them to a hosting site like photobucket, then put the address within image tags like this: [ img ]http://www.website.com/image.jpg[ /img ] except no spaces.
I have no clue about your spacer bulge. We need a picture to see what you're talking about. The drive shaft is removed with a quick forceful jerk on the shaft. I wish there was a better way to say that.


You mean you have to keep jerking it till it comes???  angel

I use photobucket, when you view your uploaded picture, on the right side is a selection of 4 types of posts. Choose the bottom one, which copies it automatically, and then paste that in your post. You'll be doing looking at pictures in no time (maybe with the 1st line of my post, it will make the job go easier??  Wink.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2016, 09:24:43 PM »

For pictures you have to upload them to a hosting site like photobucket, then put the address within image tags like this: [ img ]http://www.website.com/image.jpg[ /img ] except no spaces.
I have no clue about your spacer bulge. We need a picture to see what you're talking about. The drive shaft is removed with a quick forceful jerk on the shaft. I wish there was a better way to say that.


You mean you have to keep jerking it till it comes???  angel

I use photobucket, when you view your uploaded picture, on the right side is a selection of 4 types of posts. Choose the bottom one, which copies it automatically, and then paste that in your post. You'll be doing looking at pictures in no time (maybe with the 1st line of my post, it will make the job go easier??  Wink.
Don't let these heathen Canadians corrupt you.  2funny I tried posting pics off and on for years with no luck. But then a guy named Wiggy put it into dumbass terms and walked me patiently thru it. He made a post over on the general board to help dumbasses such as myself when he realized the huge demand for his services. Do a search over there and you'll have it in no time.  cooldude
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2016, 06:31:15 AM »

The axle nut is tightened to 81 ftlbs. it should feel tight when you remove it. As for removing the driveshaft from the pinion cup, put the Final Drive on the floor (on something to protect it) and move the end of the driveshaft in big circles as you pull it out. As stated before, be sure to NOT forget the thrust washer between the wheel and the drive flange. That has disastrous results.
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rhubarbray
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2016, 08:14:10 AM »

The axle nut is tightened to 81 ftlbs. it should feel tight when you remove it. As for removing the driveshaft from the pinion cup, put the Final Drive on the floor (on something to protect it) and move the end of the driveshaft in big circles as you pull it out. As stated before, be sure to NOT forget the thrust washer between the wheel and the drive flange. That has disastrous results.


Tight yes, but not two hands bending a 36" long 1/2" drive breaker bar hearing CRACK when it finally lets go.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2016, 08:32:40 AM »

Sounds like it was 'quite a bit' too tight. Generally, too tight is better than not tight enough.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2016, 07:45:46 PM »

Tight yes, but not two hands bending a 36" long 1/2" drive breaker bar hearing CRACK when it finally lets go.

Can everyone say "air driver"?
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longrider
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2016, 06:23:50 AM »

Had the dealer change my first front back in 98.  Same thing.  36" to get it loose.   Last time any of my m/c have seen a shop other than mine
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2016, 07:18:02 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/groups/855896357793960/

Keep going down the page until you see the video of Bill removing the drive shaft. It's easy when you know how.

If not a member of his F Book page ask to join.
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2016, 07:21:05 AM »

Just found out how to save the video and repost it.

You're welcome  cooldude

https://www.facebook.com/BigBF5/videos/576331115809274/

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Bighead
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2016, 09:40:04 AM »

The axle nut is tightened to 81 ftlbs. it should feel tight when you remove it. As for removing the driveshaft from the pinion cup, put the Final Drive on the floor (on something to protect it) and move the end of the driveshaft in big circles as you pull it out. As stated before, be sure to NOT forget the thrust washer between the wheel and the drive flange. That has disastrous results.
If you remove one in this fashion I would suggest having a new oil seal around. All that needs to be done is just pull straight out on it
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indybobm
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2016, 11:47:04 AM »

The axle nut is tightened to 81 ftlbs. it should feel tight when you remove it. As for removing the driveshaft from the pinion cup, put the Final Drive on the floor (on something to protect it) and move the end of the driveshaft in big circles as you pull it out. As stated before, be sure to NOT forget the thrust washer between the wheel and the drive flange. That has disastrous results.
If you remove one in this fashion I would suggest having a new oil seal around. All that needs to be done is just pull straight out on it

Moving the end of the driveshaft in a 2"  or 3" circle is not going to cause much movement at the seal.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2016, 12:00:49 PM »

Maybe not in 2" circles but your post reads Big Circles. That could be taken as move it in the largest radius you can.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2016, 12:34:03 PM »

I never saw Big BF's video until I had taken many many drive shafts out of pinion cups.  Just a quick hard yank and it comes right out,  I usually push down a little just before the quick hard yank.  A couple times it took more than one try, but never was a real problem.
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