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Upon Duckwheat's suggestion, this thread is about probable routes from your home state to Michigan which has been tentativley ID'd as ground zero for Inzane X. Avoiding those states that are not 2nd amendment friendly is important to some of us.  I personally avoid traveling or doing any business in a state that denies their citizens the rights guaranteed under the constitution. I'm in Texas, a very pro-2nd amendment state. Texas recognizes any CCW permit issued by any state that reciprocates that same right to Texans. My route to Michigan will be from Houston to Arkansas, then Tennessee, head north to Kentucky , through Indiana and then Michigan. Perhaps others will post their possible routes to Michigan for others in their state to plan accordingly.  Here's an Amazon.com link to the book I used to plan my route based on other states CCW laws. $11 Bought mine at my CCW renewal class yesterday. http://www.amazon.com/Travelers-Guide-Firearm-Fifty-States/dp/0972548912/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254697105&sr=1-1
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2009, 04:32:22 PM » |
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You'll be fine in IN and KY. Also no helmet laws for adults.
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Gear Jammer
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2009, 04:36:41 PM » |
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good site !! every little bit helps 
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2009, 05:53:54 PM » |
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Hey don't take this wrong but 99.99999% of us can travel across the country without having to draw down on anyone en route. I did manage 600 miles just today in 3 states and didn't see any pistoleros anywhere. I'm glad your packing heat but come on, it's a motorcycle rally your going not a war plan. I'd worry more about the silver hairs in Indiana than anything else, they'll take ya without ever even seein' ya. Trust me, once you get north of Texas things calm down quite a bit. However, the bumble bees can be nasty in Iowa. You might need a good .22 stinger round ready.  Raymond
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2009, 06:17:21 PM » |
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carring a gun just keeps the respect at the level we all should have for each other anyway so carry it and smile knowing you have the right to your 2nd amendment :cooldude:and they have not striped it away ..yet
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i dont care what you ride just ride mike & kari mivrcc capital city leader s.s.d.d. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2009, 06:23:44 PM » |
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i dont care what you ride just ride mike & kari mivrcc capital city leader s.s.d.d. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2009, 06:29:38 PM » |
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What a priority for a motorcycle ride. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2009, 06:44:10 PM » |
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What a priority for a motorcycle ride.  No.........a priority for self defense............  If you would like to become a victim, feel free.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2009, 06:46:54 PM » |
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However, the bumble bees can be nasty in Iowa. You might need a good .22 stinger round ready.  Raymond [/quote] Good one. MAGNUM and I are good to go come July. I already have my route programmed in Zumo. Duckwheat had suggested this thread, and I thought it was worthwhile. And to quote Willow.."Helmets and guns have something in common,, if you ever really need one and don't have it, you'll never need one again",,,,
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2009, 06:49:31 PM » |
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Hey don't take this wrong but 99.99999% of us can travel across the country without having to draw down on anyone en route. I did manage 600 miles just today in 3 states and didn't see any pistoleros anywhere. I'm glad your packing heat but come on, it's a motorcycle rally your going not a war plan. I'd worry more about the silver hairs in Indiana than anything else, they'll take ya without ever even seein' ya. Trust me, once you get north of Texas things calm down quite a bit. However, the bumble bees can be nasty in Iowa. You might need a good .22 stinger round ready.  Raymond Very true, but its that 0.00001% I worry about!  I guess its second nature living on a farm. Growing up we all had shotguns in the window of our trucks. I don't carry when I go West (thx Ill!) but do everywhere else.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2009, 08:36:07 PM » |
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Wouldn’t it be nice if the 2nd amendment applied to the entire USA like the rest of the constitution does? Can you imagine a state or county/city preempting the constitution …say.. the 19th amendment (women’s right to vote) ???? revoking a woman’s right to vote??? All Hell would break loose… yet, a fundamental right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights can be denied. I just don’t get it! Anyway… go to each state’s web site and look at their laws. Print out their page and carry them with you. http://www.nraila.org/recmap/recguide.pdf
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2009, 06:58:38 AM » |
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Jammer. Avoid Illinois and Wisconsin they are anti-gun states. Indiana honors every states permit. If you have a permit to carry in your home state you can carry in Indiana......
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2009, 08:23:06 AM » |
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What a priority for a motorcycle ride.  No.........a priority for self defense............  If you would like to become a victim, feel free. I'm 55 and grew up in Los Angeles and lived most of my life in SoCal and NEVER have had an occasion where a firearm would have been necessary.I haven't needed a firearm since I left the military.By the way,I also have a concealed weapons permit but I don't carry one when I'm enjoying the day on a bike ride. P A R A N O I A or M A C H I S M O
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2009, 09:35:36 AM » |
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It's more about political activism in my opinion. I agree with him. I try to not support people, or actors or states that step on, what I believe to be fundamental rights. It's hard sometimes... I really like Heinz catsup... but I just can't give those people any of my $$.
I concur with everyone else on here from Indiana. We welcome your gun toting ass in our state. (And your $$ too while you're on the way thru.) When you're coming thru next year... let me know and I'll throw a bruger down your neck, and offer you a cot if'n you need one.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2009, 12:39:25 PM » |
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Well FINALLY, there is a good thing about being a LEO... don't have to worry about it.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2009, 02:56:02 PM » |
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... let me know and I'll throw a bruger down your neck, ... John, the context is unclear. Did you mean to type "burger" or "bugger"?
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2009, 03:50:44 PM » |
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I just can't make it a priority, traveling thru here. Customs at both ends. .jpg)
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2009, 04:00:49 PM » |
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What a priority for a motorcycle ride. Perhaps you've misunderstood what I meant. ??? "Carrying" is not a priority to go on a MC ride. It's a priority prior to leaving the house, regardless of my mode of transportation. I do all my riding away from the house,  therefore when I ride the Valk, I'm carrying. I'm also carrying if I ride a horse, drive the car or pickup or the 18 wheeler. The only relevance the Valkyrie has, is which weapon(s) do I choose and where do I carry them concealed within the riding gear I've chosen for that ride. And like you, I too have not needed to draw my personal weapon but at least I have one (or more) if I "really need one". Thanks Willow,,,,  Oh yeah, and I also wear a helmet in case I "really need one" of those too.  I suppose I'm just paranoid...  But even if you'd consider me paranoid, you can't call me unprepared. 
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2009, 05:18:28 PM » |
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Connie,,, go to this site and click on your state to see which states actually recognize a CCW issued by your state. Just because a state is listed as a "shall issue" state doesn't necessarily mean they recognize any or all other states' permits. For example, click on your Arizona, and watch the color of Oregon and Washington change to a very bright RED. Both are "shall issue" states, but neither recognizes a permit issued by Arizona. This link was first posted by GregC http://handgunlaw.us/LicMaps/ccwmap.php
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2009, 06:51:21 PM » |
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What a priority for a motorcycle ride.  No.........a priority for self defense............  If you would like to become a victim, feel free. I'm 55 and grew up in Los Angeles and lived most of my life in SoCal and NEVER have had an occasion where a firearm would have been necessary.I haven't needed a firearm since I left the military.By the way,I also have a concealed weapons permit but I don't carry one when I'm enjoying the day on a bike ride. P A R A N O I A or M A C H I S M O Thx for serving our county.
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2009, 09:55:57 PM » |
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Connie,,, go to this site and click on your state to see which states actually recognize a CCW issued by your state. Just because a state is listed as a "shall issue" state doesn't necessarily mean they recognize any or all other states' permits. For example, click on your Arizona, and watch the color of Oregon and Washington change to a very bright RED. Both are "shall issue" states, but neither recognizes a permit issued by Arizona. This link was first posted by GregC http://handgunlaw.us/LicMaps/ccwmap.php That's why I posted the reciprocity link. It lists where your permit is recognized.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2009, 04:46:03 PM » |
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That's why I posted the reciprocity link. It lists where your permit is recognized. Yes you did, and I went and clicked the wrong link on another post. My bad,,, 
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2009, 05:49:14 PM » |
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I am 67 yrs old,have carried a weapon sense 1967. I left VietNam in late 1968 was wounded on three separate occasions. I earned my right to carry and a right to defend myself against deadly force. I have never had to use my weapon in civilian life, I hope I can still say that till I die of old age. I go to the range a couple times a month, if you carry you should practice. I would not hesitate to protect myself, my family and friends. I find that most situations can be defused with a little diplomacy, when all else fails know your options.
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2009, 06:49:31 PM » |
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I'd say you more than earned it. Thanks for all you've done. There are many vets on the board, though I'm not one, that probably agree whole heartedly with your position.
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2009, 10:02:15 PM » |
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Kansas is a "shall issue" state and although I have been too lazy to acquire my CCW permit...We are also an "open carry " state.
I have never fired a weapon in anger or even in self defense because of fear for my safety or even safety of others but I FIRMLY believe that is because when diplomacy has OBVIOUSLY failed ,the mere presence of the openly carried (and on occasion,POINTED) firearm has spoken volumes! A picture may be worth a thousand words,but lookin down the barrel of a citizen prepared to defend themselves requires NO WORDS!
I rarely carry when I ride but that is usually because I know some one in the group is a CCW permit holder and I am not, but there have defiantly been times I wish I had ,even if I managed to get by without needing it...the concern was there. Gonna sign up for the official class and be legal anyhow but I would rather be safe and guilty than a law abiding dead man anytime. YMMV
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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2009, 12:01:04 PM » |
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... let me know and I'll throw a bruger down your neck, ... John, the context is unclear. Did you mean to type "burger" or "bugger"? Man Willow... you want a job as a proof reader for a publisher somewhere? You pick on me ALL the time about typos. You KNOW I do that on purpose just to keep you looking don't you? "Dyslexics of the world UNTIE!!" For clarification... that was supposed to be burger... and that goes for most anyone on here most any time. If'n you're on the south side of indy and need a burger... lemme know. I'll try to feed ya. But, I don't keep any beer around... so you're on your own there. Jabba
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2009, 12:23:42 PM » |
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Man Willow... you want a job as a proof reader for a publisher somewhere? You pick on me ALL the time about typos. You KNOW I do that on purpose just to keep you looking don't you? LOL! Only because I know you can take it, Jabba, and you make such interesting typos.
(Incidentally, you're missing a comma there.)
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« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2009, 12:33:20 PM » |
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Nice!.
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Remember, I am an enjunear, and we ar knot guud spellars.
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« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2009, 03:16:20 PM » |
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Kansas is a "shall issue" state and although I have been too lazy to acquire my CCW permit...We are also an "open carry " state.
I Gonna sign up for the official class and be legal anyhow but I would rather be safe and guilty than a law abiding dead man anytime. YMMV
RoadKill, Last weekend in my CCW renewal class, the instructor ( a cop ) related how he had asked an attorney about representing someone who had used his weapon to defend himself/herself . The attorney said the first question he asks the potential client is " Do you have your CHL? " (CHL in TX is Concealed Handgun License, same as CCW in other states). If they have their CHL, he said he'll have an easier time of defending against any potential charge or lawsuit. So go get that CCW, you'll feel much more at ease knowing you're "legal". 
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Lets not forget that the armed citizens can be a defensive force if our country is ever invaded. The only reason the Japanese never invaded our mainland in WW11 was the armed citizens. When they surrendered one of their generals said "their citizens are better armed than most armies".
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