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"Earn your own money
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Is that to much to ask?"
Why should one's ability to have insurance be dependent upon one's ability to keep a job? If you lose your job, you shouldn't have to lose your insurance either.
No one.....that is, no legal citizen of this country should have to go bankrupt because they got sick....PERIOD.
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« Reply #81 on: November 20, 2009, 04:25:35 PM » |
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"Earn your own money
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Is that to much to ask?"
Why should one's ability to have insurance be dependent upon one's ability to keep a job? If you lose your job, you shouldn't have to lose your insurance either.
No one.....that is, no legal citizen of this country should have to go bankrupt because they got sick....PERIOD.
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« Reply #82 on: November 20, 2009, 06:06:25 PM » |
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"One's ability to have a service provided to them (health care) is dependent on one's ability to pay for that service."
So you should only recieve the healthcare that you can afford then? I'm talking about the right to live. You're talking about the right to purchase as if you're going to buy a set of tires.
Kinda cold, don't cha think? So who gets to live and die depends on how much money ya got. Jeeeesh.
Say you get kidney cancer and just lost your job? You've been down sized buddy. Not your fault, but not anyone else's problem then either, right? According to you, you're just gonna die then, right? Oh well, tuff luck buddy. Better luck in the next life. You should've invested better.
I'm sorry, but I want healthcare in my country that doesn't discriminate upon one's social and economic status.
Other countries do. It works there. No one there goes broke because they got sick. They DO here. Our healthcare cost the most, covers the least, and discriminates the most.
That shouldn't be.
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So you should only recieve the healthcare that you can afford then?
Say you get kidney cancer and just lost your job? According to you, you're just gonna die then, right? Oh well, tuff luck buddy. Better luck in the next life.
I'm sorry, but I want something better in my country that doesn't discriminate upon one's social and economic status.
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then pick a country,get a Visa and GO ! If you dont like this one you are FREE to find another.
Wow...how tolerent, compassionate and open minded you are.
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then pick a country,get a Visa and GO ! If you dont like this one you are FREE to find another.
Wow...how tolerent and open minded you are.
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then pick a country,get a Visa and GO ! If you dont like this one you are FREE to find another.
Wow...how tolerent and open minded you are.
I pay my medical bills....Turned off the cable TV,spent all the business capital,shut the business phone off from time to time to save money. the newest junk I own is a totaled '98 valkyrie (Thank GOD for tough machines), I eat what ever dollar general has on sale in a can and you think I should pay your bills too? Come look me in the eye and ask me to pay more! I will show you tolerance.... if I let you live! |
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« Reply #87 on: November 20, 2009, 06:44:32 PM » |
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"I feel no obligation to support people that can not/will not support themselves." Who said anything about supporting people that "can not/will not support themselves"? Where does that come from? Bad things happen to good people. People lose their jobs all the time from no fault of their own. Perhaps you've heard to the rising umemployment in this country. Regardless the cause, people are losing their incomes and their availabilty to "affordable" healthcare. People are being discriminated against and refused coverage by the insurance company's for pre-existing conditions. There are people that have worked and saved all their lives that, because they've gotten a cancer, will have to continue to work at their jobs just for their continued coverage. But I suppose that if they don't like it though, that they can just George Jones it and love it or leave it, huh? Tuff love....just crawl off and die somewhere so other won't have to pay for those that won't/will not work.
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Is it really Health care cost? or what has happened to your hard earned dollar that might be putting this strain on All of us. Lets see here? To: info@goldline.comSubject: Rising health insurance cost Actually the cost of health insurance since the early 1970's has been cut in half from $28 a month for 20% deductable to $14 a month 20% deductable - in face value silver coins. When I graduated from high school I paid $28 a month for health insurance. $28 in face value silver coins paid for a months worth of private health insurance. In 2009 $28.00 in face value 90% silver coins is $392.00 and $14.00 in face value silver coins is $196.00 and a person in their 20's pays around $200.00 a month for health insurance. So health insurance has been cut in half from $28.00 a month to $14.00 a month.Since your email was used on-air, Joe Battaglia has requested we send you a free coin. Please provide your contact information. Thank you, GOLDLINE INTERNATIONAL, INC. Tracy Hymes Manager Account Executive Support |
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"I eat what ever dollar general has on sale in a can and you think I should pay your bills too? Come look me in the eye and ask me to pay more! I will show you tolerance.... if I let you live!"
Without you threatening me by threatening to show me your tolerance, please explain you're lack of compassion towards others. Others that are in positions that you yourself might, and probably will find yourself in.
I'm wanting to open a dialog and understand your view (and others that hold your view), the view that people should be denied healthcare because they can't afford it.
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Is it really Health care cost? or what has happened to your hard earned dollar that might be putting this strain on All of us. Lets see here? To: info@goldline.comSubject: Rising health insurance cost Actually the cost of health insurance since the early 1970's has been cut in half from $28 a month for 20% deductable to $14 a month 20% deductable - in face value silver coins. When I graduated from high school I paid $28 a month for health insurance. $28 in face value silver coins paid for a months worth of private health insurance. In 2009 $28.00 in face value 90% silver coins is $392.00 and $14.00 in face value silver coins is $196.00 and a person in their 20's pays around $200.00 a month for health insurance. So health insurance has been cut in half from $28.00 a month to $14.00 a month.Since your email was used on-air, Joe Battaglia has requested we send you a free coin. Please provide your contact information. Thank you, GOLDLINE INTERNATIONAL, INC. Tracy Hymes Manager Account Executive Support Maybe when we step back and think about this post it will show the real problem in our country today, Anybody want to dispute this? |
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« Reply #91 on: November 20, 2009, 07:31:15 PM » |
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in this country health care just like owning a house or car is not a right but a priviledge. in an ideal world everyone would be covered by healthcare(it is not an ideal world). we have illegals that get free treatment in emergency rooms all the time. they do not pay into the system. now the government is telling me i have to pay for the lazy a$$e$ and illegals. where did my constitutional rights go.
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"in this country health care just like owning a house or car is not a right but a priviledge."
Then why can't it be a right......and why does everyone insist upon equating healthcare to going to Walmart and buying a big screen? It's HEALTHCARE, not a box of soap or a set of tires or a new car.
"in an ideal world everyone would be covered by healthcare(it is not an ideal world)."
No....in an ideal country, everyone would be covered. There are lots of those that do. We're one of the last that don't.
And what's wrong with trying to make it an "ideal world"? Just because it sucks and doesn't work well, doesn't mean that we can't try to make it better....or does it?
Is everyone here so afraid that some illegal Mexican is gonna get free care that you'd deny healthcare to the millions of other tax paying, legal citizens of this country that are, have been and are being denied healthcare and coverage every day?
No one that I know of is, and I'm certainly not, proposing "free" healthcare for non-citizens. I'm certainly not advocating Obama care either. I've seen very little in the democratic proposals that I've agreed with, nor have I seen anything much better in the Republican alternatives either. They both will still deny people coverage.
What I DO propose, is that this country form a blue ribbon type of panel to look at what other countries are doing, what they're doing right and what they're doing wrong and put together a program that takes from the best parts of those.
Instead of paying a king's ransom of premiums to an insurance company like I do now that's probably only going to end up denying me coverage at some point, I'd much rather be paying into a common pot that ALL OF YOU, me and every LEGAL citizen of this country can take part in......take part in without the fear of going bankrupt because you get sick.
That's what I want.....and that's what I'm asking for.
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"I eat what ever dollar general has on sale in a can and you think I should pay your bills too? Come look me in the eye and ask me to pay more! I will show you tolerance.... if I let you live!"
Without you threatening me by threatening to show me your tolerance, please explain you're lack of compassion towards others. Others that are in positions that you yourself might, and probably will find yourself in.
I'm wanting to open a dialog and understand your view (and others that hold your view), the view that people should be denied healthcare because they can't afford it.
in this country health care just like owning a house or car is not a right but a priviledge. in an ideal world everyone would be covered by healthcare(it is not an ideal world). we have illegals that get free treatment in emergency rooms all the time. they do not pay into the system. now the government is telling me i have to pay for the lazy a$$e$ and illegals. where did my constitutional rights go.
My view is that I PAY MY BILLS MY DAMN SELF! I took the risk,I got killt, I will pay! but I will NOT any way,shape ,or form pay for anyone else to take the risk,sit on they ass and play x-box 360,watch cable T.V.,pop out babies as an income assurance plan,live in assistance housing I F-ing payed for and believe that they deserve it just because they were a crack baby born inside these borders! Dont EVEN get me started on the ones that were NOT born inside the borders of the U.S.A ! Prove to me that my dollars will help those who help themselves and i will still tell you to go steal from someone else because I have nothing left for you thieves to take! I WILL NOT go bankrupt because I am an American and I dont have to! I have been blessed with opportunity and I need nothing more! ! ! if you need more Find a socialist country and I would be happy if my tax dollars bought you a ticket to go there. This is MY country! Spoiled babies who "deserve" better can apply elsewhere. Here, we do for ourselves just fine with out supporting the leaches of a retarded society of crybabies incapable of helping themselves.  I could help myself and others alot better with out the leaches |
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but I will NOT any way,shape ,or form pay for anyone else to take the risk,sit on they ass and play x-box 360,watch cable T.V.,pop out babies
If you pay taxes, then in exactly that way shape and form, you do indeed already pay for others. If you own property, then you do indeed pay to educate other people's children.
If you dive on a county, state or federal highway, you take part of, and use the resourses of the tax dollars that OTHERS have paid into so YOU can drive on that highway. I've got news for you....that's the taking their money, so you can use it. That's socialist.
So unless your drive only on roads that you've built, paved and paid for, then you're a hypocrite.
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My view is that I PAY MY BILLS MY DAMN SELF! I took the risk,I got killt, I will pay! but I will NOT any way,shape ,or form pay for anyone else to take the risk,sit on they ass and play x-box 360,watch cable T.V.,pop out babies as an income assurance plan,live in assistance housing I F-ing payed for and believe that they deserve it just because they were a crack baby born inside these borders! Dont EVEN get me started on the ones that were NOT born inside the borders of the U.S.A ! Prove to me that my dollars will help those who help themselves and i will still tell you to go steal from someone else because I have nothing left for you thieves to take! I WILL NOT go bankrupt because I am an American and I dont have to! I have been blessed with opportunity and I need nothing more! ! ! if you need more Find a socialist country and I would be happy if my tax dollars bought you a ticket to go there. This is MY country! Spoiled babies who "deserve" better can apply elsewhere. Here, we do for ourselves just fine with out supporting the leaches of a retarded society of crybabies incapable of helping themselves.
I could help myself and others alot better with out the leaches
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"in this country health care just like owning a house or car is not a right but a priviledge."
Then why can't it be a right......and why does everyone insist upon equating healthcare to going to Walmart and buying a big screen? It's HEALTHCARE, not a box of soap or a set of tires or a new car.
"in an ideal world everyone would be covered by healthcare(it is not an ideal world)."
No....in an ideal country, everyone would be covered. There are lots of those that do. We're one of the last that don't.
And what's wrong with trying to make it an "ideal world"? Just because it sucks and doesn't work well, doesn't mean that we can't try to make it better....or does it?
Is everyone here so afraid that some illegal Mexican is gonna get free care that you'd deny healthcare to the millions of other tax paying, legal citizens of this country that are, have been and are being denied healthcare and coverage every day?
No one that I know of is, and I'm certainly not, proposing "free" healthcare for non-citizens. I'm certainly not advocating Obama care either. I've seen very little in the democratic proposals that I've agreed with, nor have I seen anything much better in the Republican alternatives either. They both will still deny people coverage.
What I DO propose, is that this country form a blue ribbon type of panel to look at what other countries are doing, what they're doing right and what they're doing wrong and put together a program that takes from the best parts of those.
Instead of paying a king's ransom of premiums to an insurance company like I do now that's probably only going to end up denying me coverage at some point, I'd much rather be paying into a common pot that ALL OF YOU, me and every LEGAL citizen of this country can take part in......take part in without the fear of going bankrupt because you get sick.
That's what I want.....and that's what I'm asking for.
WOW...You nailed it! I never thought of it before...but if I get my ass on welfare or just have a Mexican birth certificate forged I could live off your tax dollars WAAYYYYYY better than I am living now! hell, If I just commit a crime I could go to jail,get free health care and some cable T.V. ! I probably got 60 yrs left to live...what I gotta do to get in jail for 60 yrs"? HMMMMMM...Where do you live again? If I commit a capitol offense and cross the border they wont extradite me because I could face the death penalty,then when I come back claiming to be an illegal alien I could get every thing free and my children will be cared for as well ! ! Sorry I gotta stop typin now because I NO SPEAK ENGLISH . What a perfect system  thank you all for helping me see the light! Now WHO IS FIRST? Got any pretty daughters ? How much for the women ? |
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but I will NOT any way,shape ,or form pay for anyone else to take the risk,sit on they ass and play x-box 360,watch cable T.V.,pop out babies
If you pay taxes, then in exactly that way shape and form, you do indeed already pay for others. If you own property, then you do indeed pay to educate other people's children.
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So unless your drive only on roads that you've built, paved and paid for, then you're a hypocrite.
I go to Jail if I dont drive on the roads that money was STOLEN from me to build! I dont mind paying to build roads,teaching other peoples children,In fact I have NO CHILDREN and have chosen not to have any so I can better help other peoples children and help them raise them right. If it takes a village and every one had 5 kids where the hell is the village? But paying for the crack whore next door to have an abortion and buying her foodstamps so she can afford to buy her pimp a Cadillac is BULLS^($ and if you think it is not happening and going to continue on a grander scale you are naive to say the least! I REBEL AGAINST THAT ! |
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"Did you read (and comprehend) anything I've written? "
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You fIX the "system and I will pay every dollar I have left to your healthcare with a smile, until then ...EAT MY SHORTS!
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I REBEL AGAINST THAT !
As do I sir, but where do you get that I do?
Again.....have you read and comprehended anything I've written. It doesn't appear so.
I'm trying to understand your contempt and bitterness.
So, what you're telling me is......that you'd deny healthcare to millions of hard working, tax paying, legal citizens of this country because you're afraid that one lousy, illegal Guatemalan wet back x-box playing crack whore might recieve a penny of your hard earned money in free healthcare. Does that about sum it up?
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BF..I do apologize for my contempt. I have read ,I understand what you wish for and I would , even myself, love to see it come to fruition.HOWEVER,I believe that in this current social climate of unaccountability and fraudulent governing I see such a utopia unobtainable. We must "fix" the system FIRST! How will we do that? I have my own (non-optimistic) ideas. If you have a scenario in which it can be corrected so we can move forward towards a FAIR system I would applaud your effort to put it out there....Because I have not heard many other suggestions to a solution. Please be prepared for a LOT of debate on your plan,but none the less it would be refreshing to hear it. |
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I REBEL AGAINST THAT !
As do I sir, but where do you get that I do?
Again.....have you read and comprehended anything I've written. It doesn't appear so.
I'm trying to understand your contempt and bitterness.
So, what you're telling me is......that you'd deny healthcare to millions of hard working, tax paying, legal citizens of this country because you're afraid that one lousy, illegal Guatemalan wet back x-box playing crack whore might recieve a penny of your hard earned money in free healthcare. Does that about sum it up?
I,MYSELF as a "hard working, tax paying, legal citizens of this country" have not been denied health care and under the current system would not be "denied" ! but I will be asked to pay my share because I am a "hard working, tax paying, legal citizens of this country" and those who are NOT"hard working, tax paying, legal citizens of this country" will NEVER PAY THEIR SHARE ! What makes them better than me? no one payed my share...am I not worthy,did I not work enough,am I not "minority " enough ? WTF did I do so that I dont deserve it for free like the other lazy bastards? |
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JK LOL!!!! When i lived in CA that would mean I love you bahahahah!. QUESTION!!! WHY IS HEALTH INSURANCE SO HIGH????? I AM ALL EARS!!! Please dont confuse with HEALTH CARE. I will give you a hint interstate..............? The republicans have proposed a bill to this problem even including pre existing conditions. 'This is for all the Gov health care supporters'.
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This is a very complex issue that i'm absolutely sure government is incapable of fixing. They are so corrupted that many of the problems of healthcare in this country won't be addressed any time soon. We don't hear alot about how big Pharma. is in total control of medicine in this country. Most of the cost of so called medical care has become nothing more than drug dealing. Many of the more popular drugs can be easily found in our water table and in tap water almost everywhere. The way people turn to Doctors for every stupid little thing makes me sick. People need to stop relying on Doctors to think for us and educate ourselves. It amazes me how many people go to the Doctor for a cold or the flu. How many people believe a Doctor can do anything for a cold or flu. Free market would work just fine if we would stop relying on Doctors and Government to think for us. The consumer has all the power in any market if the Government stays the hell out of it. Most of the people i know are hooked on some kind of drug their Doctor pushed on them and i'm sure that's the case most everywhere. Hardly any drugs that people take are neccesary. Most drugs just cause more problems, which require more medical care, then we're given more drugs which requires more Doctor visits. And the snowball just keeps getting bigger. It seems to me the insurance companies are just to make big pharma richer and visa versa. It's all a big scam and we're the idiots that keep playin their game. We're in the drivers seat and we don't even know it. Once the Gov. takes control of it we'll just be passengers along for the ride. The general population is too stupid to see the problem. I am absolutely positive that if we stopped taking drugs we don't need. Stopped going to the doctor because we don't know any better. And became aware of when Doctors are sending us in the wrong direction that there would be no healthcare crisis. Ignorance is not bliss....it's just plain stupid.
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Interesting statistics
A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.
Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%
Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%
Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%
Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%
Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18
Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%
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I won't cherry pick a specific news article on it, but search Google News on Danny Williams for a funny story currently in the news: http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Danny+Williams(Obviously, Fox News is spinning it one direction, and Huffington Post is spinning it the other) |
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« Reply #111 on: February 05, 2010, 10:39:18 AM » |
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..The wife and I went to Catania (Sicily) for a wedding and she came down with Bronchitis which is chronic for her. What a mess! But they sent us off no charge albeit with a prescription that cost maybe $10-15 to fill up the street. It was hell for her with the near anarchy in the emergency area of the hospital...
Cut to 4 days later when we were in Paris for the final leg of our 2 week stay in Europe when she complained of horrific pain in her abdomen. It was late evening so I said I'd pick up antacid in the morning. Next day no improvement. I went down to the front desk and asked where I could take her. They said no problem, we'll call a doctor and they'll come here. Really? Really. Arrived within 20 minutes and after a cursory exam recommended a visit to the hospital. A 50 euro bill was charged by the mobile Dr. Ambulance arrived and took her off to a local hospital. Long story short...a private room, terrific staff despite the language barrier and an accurate prognosis of a rarely suffered disease in Europe. Diverticulitis. Severe. For some reason it only occurs in country's with highly processed foods. They kept her and got it under control after 3 weeks (that severe) and said she'd need surgery when she got home. I would go to the billing office daily to explain that I had contacted Blue Cross/Anthem and it would be paid for. No problem they said. Go be with your wife and relax. You shouldn't be worrying about the money. Never even asked about insurance upon admission obviously knowing we were not French. We got a bill 6 months later for the co-payment. I told my wife send it out NOW.
So, Italy? Scary. France? Merci beaucoup!
Just had the exact same experience, right here in the good ole US of A !!!!!!. Mom and Dad were at a hotel in Virginia (getting on the auto-train in the morning) when Mom got week and couldn't get out of bed. Hotel called a doc who showed up quickly according to Dad. Doc said she was dehydrated. Ambulance came and took her to nearby hospital. Dad had no form of insurance identification and just told them who they were and were never spoken to again about the bill. Rehydration and electrolyte "rebalancing" and she was as good a old (she's 70). USA....greatest healthcare in the world! |
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« Reply #112 on: February 05, 2010, 01:29:45 PM » |
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« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2010, 09:31:23 PM » |
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Last year I lost it on a curve, ended up with 5 ribs broken, puntured lung, twisted ankle and nerve damage to hip. I was taken to hospital in an ambulance. Here in Quebec we pay 500$ for our motorcycle plates. I was off work 3 months. The insurance included in the plate cost paid for the hospital costs, 90% of my salary as well as 1500$ for pain and suffering. They also bought me a new jacket, helmet and jeans. That's not the health insurance, nor unemployment, and not the insurance I have on the bike. Anyone who drives must pay for this insurance. While we are able to work we must pay for unemployment insurance, health insurance, canada pension and income taxes. Apparently we have to work for 6 months of the year just to pay for all the taxes etc. When we can no longer work, are retired or unemployed we don't pay. It's a socialist country, in that we gaurantee a minimum quality of life, not the high life. If you want the better things in life you must work for it. The safety net is there to care for those not able to care for themselves. For the most part the majority of us don't mind that we pay for some layabouts. The net is pretty low compared to the average life style of Canadians though. We have it pretty good overall, if you want to work , there's always lots to do, if you don't put a lot of pre-conditions on it.
Long ago they taught me in school that I had 2 options if I didn't like what was going on in my country. I could either work to change things for the better, or leave. I see that Americans are passionate about their country, have strong feelings about the way things should be and are willing to die for their beliefs. I am certain that whatever health care system you adopt will reflect what the majority of Americans want. If it doesn't work out right the first time you'll keep changing it to make it better. If the government is messing things up you'll give them the boot next time around.
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