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« on: February 22, 2017, 07:39:05 AM »

I've mounted the LED lights you can see in the photo



This is the wire from one of the lights.

Do I just add splice the 2 lights together and then add some wire and run it back to the PC8 I have and then attach the red to one side of the PC8 and the black to the other?

Answers in simple terms please.  cooldude

The landing lights on the light bar are just for night riding and have a separate switch for on/off.

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 08:32:14 AM »

Yes, if by 'PC8' you mean the accessory terminal, you would splice black to black to a ground wire, and red to red to the accessory power terminal.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 01:03:49 PM »

You are running a relay? what is the draw on the LEDs?

 Just did this last night on the 2003 1500
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 01:26:12 PM »

As simple as possible:
Yes you can connect the red wires from the two lights together and the black wires from the two lights together then run a single red and black wire back to the PC-8.

I assume you're referring to an Easternbeaver PC-8 fuse panel. If so you'll want to connect the red wire to a number 1-6 + lug (switched with key on), if you use 7-8 the lights will be on as long as the battery is installed in the bike. The black wire can be installed on any of the - lugs.

If you can provide a link to the lights you're using I can recommend the correct fuse and wire gauge.

More detailed response:
First thing we need to know is what are you using the lights for, better visibility during the day or improved illumination at night.

Looking at the lights they appear to use individual, clear TIR optics, they do not look to be elliptical. If that's the case they probably project a fairly large (approximately 15-25 degree) spot pattern making them unusable when the low beam is on. You will need a either a switch so they can be turned off at night or a relay that can be switched by the high beam.

I also installed connectors on my lamps so they can be removed without cutting any wires if needed.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 04:45:59 PM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151791229452
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 04:48:19 PM »

As simple as possible:
Yes you can connect the red wires from the two lights together and the black wires from the two wires together then run a single red and black wire back to the PC-8.

I assume you're referring to an Easternbeaver PC-8 fuse panel. If so you'll want to connect the red wire to a number 1-6 + lug (switched with key on), if you use 7-8 the lights will be on as long as the battery is installed in the bike. The black wire can be installed on any of the - lugs.

If you can provide a link to the lights you're using I can recommend the correct fuse and wire gauge.

More detailed response:
First thing we need to know is what are you using the lights for, better visibility during the day or improved illumination at night.

Looking at the lights they appear to use individual, clear TIR optics, they do not look to be elliptical. If that's the case they probably project a fairly large (approximately 15-25 degree) spot pattern making them unusable when the low beam is on. You will need a either a switch so they can be turned off at night or a relay that can be switched by the high beam.

I also installed connectors on my lamps so they can be removed without cutting any wires if needed.

During the day. I do have a switch that came with.

I planned on putting connectors where I splice the wires.

Was trying to do it this week but I've got the crud and have spent most of the week in bed hacking up my lungs. Call me Captain Custard  Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 06:59:46 PM »

Sorry to hear about the "crud", had something going around my house a few weeks back.

Ebay listing doesn't have much to say "Driving Fog Spot Light", certainly not fog lights. Probably work very well though for daytime conspicuity though.

Listing says Light Power, 24W, Actual Power 8W. I assume that's per lamp so 16W or 1.4A, very little current draw. A 5 amp fuse will be more than enough, 18 gauge wire will be fine.
If you're just going to run operate the lights with the switch (not tied into the headlight dimmer) no need for a separate relay.

You could combine the red wires from the lights and run them directly to the switch, either switch wire will do. Run the other wire from the switch back to the fused power at the PC-8. Then combine the black wires from the lamps and run them directly to the ground lug on the PC-8.

Since with LED lamps the driver is usually not grounded to the chassis of the lamp there is a better way to install the switch though.
Combine the red wires from the lamps and run a single red wire directly back to the fused power at the PC-8.
Combine the black wires from the lamps and run a single wire to either switch wire.
Run the other wire from the switch back to the ground lug of the PC-8.

The second method simply moves the switch from the power side of the circuit to the ground side which provides two advantages.
1. The powered wire will be a little shorter with a few less bends. The longer the wire, the more exposed it is, the higher the probably is that it will eventually chafe and short out (blow the fuse). With the switch on the ground side with the longer wire, if it chafes and shorts out the lights will simply turn on, no blown fuse.
2. The switch will last longer on the ground side.
The combined load of the 2 lamps is 16W or 1.34A at 12V. With the switch on the power side it will be handling 1.34A at 12V, or 16W. Ground side voltage though is much lower, I'll use 0.5V but in reality it will be millivolts. 1.34A at 0.5V is 0.67W, much easier on the switch.

Good luck,
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2017, 07:05:26 AM »

Ta - Da! 

Let there be light





This is with a towel over my HID on low beam.

Connected lights to the ground and positive on the PC8. So obvious (face palm).

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 07:07:19 AM »

Here's where i got the lights

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151791229452
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 04:59:32 PM »

Only $10.50. It looks nice. I like.

How long does it take for you to get items from China? Me, usually up to 3 months.

I want something for the crash guards.

I don't really like the arm for mounting. But it looks like it is suppose to go under the mirror legs.

How did you mount it on the front? Onto your light bar, drilled holes, or replaced the brackets and ?
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2017, 07:27:50 PM »

Only $10.50. It looks nice. I like.

How long does it take for you to get items from China? Me, usually up to 3 months.

I want something for the crash guards.

I don't really like the arm for mounting. But it looks like it is suppose to go under the mirror legs.

How did you mount it on the front? Onto your light bar, drilled holes, or replaced the brackets and ?

They took about 3 weeks.

I used some of the ligthbar bolts.

They are a lot brighter than they look in the photos.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2017, 01:01:54 PM »

These lights are brighter than my HID on low beam.

I've now got them adjusted so they don't melt the eyes of oncoming road users.

I might buy another pair and put them down on the forks if I can work out how and where to do that.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2017, 09:36:58 AM »

One of the lights failed shortly after installation.

Seller http://www.ebay.com/itm/151791229452

He told me he would send a replacement by surface mail.

He told me that 2 more times as time passed.

I haven't received a replacement and my last communication wasn't answered.

He kept me hanging on until the time to lodge a complaint with eBay had passed.

I am now going to ask for a refund via Paypal.
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