westernbiker

[kickstand]

You do not get on base with a third strike tip droped also the batter does reach on a balk the 6 ways are hit,walk,error,hit by pitch,fielder choice, catcher interference

[Westernbiker]

Dropped third strike, catcher drops the the third strike pitch and batter runs for first, if he makes it before catcher can throw him out.  Unless I am mistaken.

[kickstand]

He said tip third strike but either way it's an( error ) you don't get first base on a balk either

[Westernbiker]

From baseball answers site. I will check on balk also.

Not only can the batter advance to first base if the catcher does not catch the ball, he can attempt to advance if the third strike skips in the dirt and is CAUGHT by the catcher; the catcher must catch the third strike cleanly to record the strike-out. In regard to the foul ball/out-of-play ball, they are 2 different things; a foul ball is, in fact, in play and the out can be made if caught on the fly (and runners on base can tag up and advance at their own peril). An out-of-play ball is a not-playable ball. Out-of-play boundaries are agreed upon prior to the start of the game by the umpires and coaches of both teams.

[Moonshot_1]

Not sure what the original question or issue was here. Seems like this thread started in the middle of a conversation.

With that...

A "dropped" "tipped" third strike is a foul ball.

The "dropped" third strike rule is actually an "uncaught third strike" There is a difference. A pitch that strikes the ground and caught by the catcher cannot be, by rule, actually caught just as a fielder cannot catch a ground ball for an out.
On an Uncaught 3rd strike, a batter may attempt to go to first PROVIDED 1st base is not occupied at the time of the pitch OR there are 2 out. (With 2 out, it doesn't matter that 1st base is occupied)

Only runners advance on a balk. Not the batter. However there are many different base ball rules out there.
Most are based on OBR or FED rules. (Official Baseball Rules= OBR (Pro) or National Federation Rules = FED (High School)

When it comes to balks, OBR is a delayed dead ball rule, meaning if there is a balk and the batter hits the ball and advances to 1st and all other runners reach their next base safely, the balk is ignored. If none of the conditions are met,  ball is dead and runners are awarded one base.

In FED rules, a balk is an immediate dead ball and runners are awarded the next (1) base

So in the Pros, Bases loaded, Balk, Home Run = Grand Slam
In High School, Bases loaded, Balk, Home Run = 1 run scored, runners on 2nd and 3rd, batter still up with same count.

On an out of play situation a player may make a play on such a ball as long as the ball is in the air (in flight) and the player is in "bounds", You can reach over the fence to catch a ball for an out. YOU can't jump over the fence to make the play.


Yeah, I umpired baseball.  Former Iowa High School baseball, and Contenental Amatuer Baseball Assoc. 10 and under World Series

Probably more than you wanted to know.

[Westernbiker]

Thanks Mike.
I also do not agree with an error as a seperate way to get on base as you had to have HIT the ball. I guess I should have been more specific as it has caused somewhat of a ruckess and now I will send two prizes out instead of one, oh well, such as.

[Moonshot_1]

You can't just get to 1st on just any error.
The error is a scoring term.
For instance, Batter hit a ground ball to shortstop who bobbles the ball and can't throw the batter out at first.
This is scored as an error. So the batter does get to first and it's scored as an error. Not a hit.