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MINNEAPOLIS — Bong water can count as a controlled substance, the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled Thursday in a decision that raises the threat of longer sentences for drug smokers who fail to dump the water out of their pipes. In a 4-3 decision Thursday, the state's highest court said a person can be prosecuted for a first-degree drug crime for 25 grams or more of bong water that tests positive for a controlled substance.   |
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Black Dog
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 10:17:02 AM » |
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 10:19:21 AM » |
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Please tell me that the only Minnesota Viking I ever liked (Alan Page) was a member of the dissenting opinion.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 10:21:47 AM » |
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Bong water can count as a controlled substance
It is very important to control your bong water...  -Mike |
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 10:49:06 AM » |
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I read somewhere that dope smokers would sometimes use wine in the water pipes. That sounds like they could maybe drink the evidence.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 10:59:00 AM » |
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I have!
Better buzz that way.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2009, 11:16:55 AM » |
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I read somewhere that dope smokers would sometimes use wine in the water pipes. That sounds like they could maybe drink the evidence.
yeah...I ..ahem....."read" that somewhere too. I also "read" where it make the wine taste like crappola  |
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2009, 12:04:30 PM » |
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Yea....I.....ah....think we....ah....all read that somewhere.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2009, 12:15:01 PM » |
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2009, 02:34:55 PM » |
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I read somewhere that dope smokers would sometimes use wine in the water pipes. That sounds like they could maybe drink the evidence.
Ewwwww, bong water.... |
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2009, 03:42:43 PM » |
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you bunch of hippies |
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2009, 04:14:11 PM » |
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State and Fed drug laws use a schedule of substances (skag/coke/crank down to weed). They also use quantity (weight) as a crime multiplier (enough, and you can be a presumed seller, even if you're not). I could easily see calling 'thc tainted' water a controlled substance, but it would be patently unfair using water weight to enhance the crime. A pound of weed is one thing, 12oz of bongwater is another. Of course, possession of 'paraphanalia' is also an offense most places. 38 years ago I took part in a college experiment using scotch and bongwater. I "inhaled," but only that one time. Gag/choke/yuk; IMHO it was a waste of cheap scotch (with or without ice). |
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2009, 05:36:17 PM » |
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2009, 05:44:12 PM » |
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In a sharply worded dissent, Justice Paul Anderson said the majority's decision "does not make sense, and borders on the absurd." He said it isn't consistent with what the Legislature intended when it wrote the state's drug laws. And he blasted Rice County authorities for charging Peck with such a serious crime.
If bong water is considered a drug mixture, and it weighs enough to raise the crime to a first-degree drug offense, the presumed sentence for a first-time offender is seven years and two months in prison, and a felony drug offense goes on his or her record, Paul Anderson wrote.
But if the bong water is treated as part of the drug paraphernalia, as the lower courts held, he wrote, the same defendant would face no more than a $300 fine and the petty misdemeanor conviction would not go on his or her record.
Justices Alan Page and Helen Meyer joined in Paul Anderson's dissent.
I rest my case! This issue was probably prosecuted because the dope was meth (not weed), and they didn't find any meth otherwise. Note that the weight at issue is only 37 grams (2 1/2 tablespoons) to be a first degree felony. This is possession of meth...... but the fair thing to do would be to reduce the countable water weight by a fraction of the actual potentcy of the mixture.
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2009, 06:04:15 PM » |
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Bong ? Bong water? Whazzat?  |
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2009, 06:10:00 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 06:55:49 PM » |
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 07:15:54 PM » |
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Don't Bong's have a carburetor similar to a Valkyrie? |
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2009, 08:42:15 PM » |
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bong water makes the plants grow like weeds |
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2009, 08:51:59 PM » |
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....just dont overfill the bong with water....cuz when ya do...yer sittin back takin a REALLYYYY BIG HIT....and that murky water suddenly comes up and fills yer mouth....and man....it taste NASTYYYYY !!!! . .....at least. . ....thats what Ive heard anyway..  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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