Fog Lights Show Chrome/BBP 52-915

[PAVALKER]

Ok I ordered and installed the Show Chrome Tridium  Fog Lights 52-915, but did not (yet) splice in/connect the DRL or Turn Signals that work on those lights.

http://www.bigbikeparts.com/templates/product.aspx?ProductGuid=52-915&GroupGuid=16

Has anyone else installed those lights and wired up the DRL or Turn Signals or figure out how to do so fairly easily?

Thanks in advance.....

[PAVALKER]

Wow.....  took a night time ride this evening....and they are bright, wash out the low beam and makes it look yellow LOL.     Didn't get any high beams flashed at me and I did aim them to right below or at low beam level so all appears good......less the DRL and Turn signal issue.

[Robert]

look good 

If you want to get the turns working Moonfer's adapters would more than likely do the trick. He made them for the So Cal lights but its the same idea and construction more than likely.

[Moofner]

I have the standard show chrome fog lights, I haven't made the transition to turn signal fogs yet. The lights do a fantastic job of lighting up the road.

One day I'll upgrade, but I have other parts I want before I get a spare $250.

[PAVALKER]

I have the standard show chrome fog lights, I haven't made the transition to turn signal fogs yet. The lights do a fantastic job of lighting up the road.

One day I'll upgrade, but I have other parts I want before I get a spare $250.

Show Chrome says they are 200% brighter than previous led fogs.... I can't confirm that, but they are bright.  When I get out with another Valk that has em I might compare.

 

look good 

If you want to get the turns working Moonfer's adapters would more than likely do the trick. He made them for the So Cal lights but its the same idea and construction more than likely.

Show Chrome instructions say they can be splice and work on the Valkyrie, but do not mention anything about an adapter.  However, when I called a CS rep said they sell an adapter to get the proper voltage up to the turn signals for the fogs to work with signals and as DRLs. I will continue to check into this and bug Show Chrome for more info and parts as needed.   Odd that they said it would work in the insts but never provide instructions to do so.  Grrrr....

[PAVALKER]

I have the standard show chrome fog lights, I haven't made the transition to turn signal fogs yet. The lights do a fantastic job of lighting up the road.

One day I'll upgrade, but I have other parts I want before I get a spare $250.

Moofner - What are these adapters you seem to be associated with/???   I tried to search but without luck.

[Wayne Basso]

Try under Admore lighting, https://www.admorelighting.com/product/valkyrie-adapter/

[PAVALKER]

Try under Admore lighting, https://www.admorelighting.com/product/valkyrie-adapter/

I did see that adapter of sorts yesterday and asked if they would work with the Show Chrome lighting ad if it had detailed wiring instructions.      Pending reply.

I did just get off the phone with BBP (Dan) and they said it is not plug and play with the Valkyrie and requires an adapter (BBP 13-311 for 59.99).  These lights were already more expensive than the earlier versions and still requires an additional 60 bucks to make them fully functional.  Sheesh....  They were advertised to be compatible with the 2014 Valkyrie in their fitment and said just needed spliced.  No where in the Install Insts did it say another part was needed.  Dan offered to sell me the part......   

[PAVALKER]

UPDATE......  10/22/17

Called back to discuss the previous dilemma regarding the BBP Lights and the need for the BBP part/adapter to make them fully functional and that I was being asked by BBP to pay for this part when they never said additional parts were required, just splicing.   I didn't like being misled about the original lights, but especially now being told I had to pay for the additional part.   

Today (10/2/17) I talked with Brandon to express my displeasure and he said that BBP 13-311 would not work and he would not ask me to buy it because of that.  He did refer me to Admore Lighting and recommended that part to get their lights fully functional.    Still livid, I proceeded to tell him that I had the option to buy SoCal Moto lights iitially, but since SoCal indicated that the Admore Lights adapter was required at an additional cost, I opted to go with the BBP lights that didn't require (or indicate the need for) the Admore adapter.   Even now BBP Install Instructions and their video indicate it works with the Valkyrie and he admitted it was in error, but failed to provide any satisfaction to get my lights fully functional.     He did offer to refund my money for the lights, but not to reimburse me for the installation or uninstallation of the lights.  He said my only options were to use them as is, return for refund, of spend more money and get the needed adapter for the Admore adapter.   I advised him there are 2 other options in addition to his.....one being legal action, the other being negative reviews regarding the product and the customer service. 

My recommendation..... deal with a company that advertises the facts and compatibility, even if they admit it will require an additional aftermarket adapter.    Not impressed with BBP at the moment.

 

[Robert]

They offered a refund and no company is going to offer labor. As for the harness you were warned regardless of what the company said. While I know its frustrating you know how to make them work and the cost is not that much. Its not worth the effort or time, just buy the ones you want and do what you have to do to make it like you want it.

 Can you imagine if you didn't have others who knew that it didn't work and there was no fix. You would be playing around with them for awhile, so just be happy that you have options provided by some on this board. I still bought the So Cal lights knowing that there was no fix at the time.

[PAVALKER]

They offered a refund and no company is going to offer labor. As for the harness you were warned regardless of what the company said. While I know its frustrating you know how to make them work and the cost is not that much. Its not worth the effort or time, just buy the ones you want and do what you have to do to make it like you want it.

 Can you imagine if you didn't have others who knew that it didn't work and there was no fix. You would be playing around with them for awhile, so just be happy that you have options provided by some on this board. I still bought the So Cal lights knowing that there was no fix at the time.

I was aware no company offers refund of labor costs.  I was not warned about the harness, because the Mfr (BBP) indicated it would fit and function in their advertisements.  I was warned about the SoCal Moto lights, after reading that on their website and here, but not for the BBP lights.   In all honesty, I am still happy with the lights (overall fit/finish and extreme brightness).  The fact that the signal lights don't work as advertised is disappointing.   The fact that they tried to sell me one of their parts for 50 odd bucks to get it to work as advertised is also disappointing.  The fact that today I find out the part they almost sold me last week, would NOT in fact have worked is even more disappointing.   

I know I can get it to work either by the Admore adapter or using Honda relays etc...  But to have BBP sell something that they advertised as compatible, which I find out wasn't without some additional part or fabrication, and almost buy something from them they recommended as the fix and then find out from the same company, but different person that it would not.....is not acceptable.  And they knowing the history of the failure to advertise it correctly and attempt to sell something and then still not try to make it right for me.....is not good Customer Service IMO.     Do I care to spend 50 bucks MORE to get the Signal Lights working.....when I could have just bought the standard Fog/Driving Lights for less.....  not right now.  It's not that important to me to spend more good money on this.   With the way companies are about using items other than supplied and covering a warranty issue, I can wait til these are out of warranty and IF they last I may get it.

[Moofner]

On a positive note, at least I now know that BPP knows about the admore harness. I always suspected it, or something like it, would be needed for the new style lights. I just could not see how they worked around the problem and kept the costs low.

I spent a lot of time working with Admore to get that harness right. We suspected that it would be a sort of universal harness when everything was finished. At least I knew it would be, considering I have 3 separate harnesses on my bike, lol.

As mentioned earlier PAVALKER, I have the fog lights only set that were out before the turn signal style. I believe you still have better light output with the newer model.

[PAVALKER]

On a positive note, at least I now know that BPP knows about the admore harness. I always suspected it, or something like it, would be needed for the new style lights. I just could not see how they worked around the problem and kept the costs low.

I spent a lot of time working with Admore to get that harness right. We suspected that it would be a sort of universal harness when everything was finished. At least I knew it would be, considering I have 3 separate harnesses on my bike, lol.

As mentioned earlier PAVALKER, I have the fog lights only set that were out before the turn signal style. I believe you still have better light output with the newer model.

Oh I agree with the better light output.  Have not yet compared it to the SoCal Moto set another local guy has on his Valkyrie.  I have with others, without the DRL/Turn Signals.   I may get to see him in the near future, but he is not fond of night riding so comparison might be awhile.

[Robert]

I doubt the early lights will be as bright as the So Cal but the newest ones might be. Im interested in how they compare when you can get your friend out. 

[Moofner]

When I installed Steelwheeler's SoCals and got the turn signals working, I noticed that they did a better job as a position light than lighting up the road. The turn signal would also get washed out by the white light if the fogs were on. The ShowChromes I have light the road up with a better wide arc beam, but are not as noticeable when looking at the bike from the front.

I would be interested to see how well the turn signals function when the fogs are on with the new showchrome model lights.

[PAVALKER]

When I installed Steelwheeler's SoCals and got the turn signals working, I noticed that they did a better job as a position light than lighting up the road. The turn signal would also get washed out by the white light if the fogs were on. The ShowChromes I have light the road up with a better wide arc beam, but are not as noticeable when looking at the bike from the front.

I would be interested to see how well the turn signals function when the fogs are on with the new showchrome model lights.

I don't think I'm  in a rush to get the turn signals working at this point, but might look into and consider it over the winter as one of my projects. IF you have any spare parts or such to help me get em working....by all means, send em my way.           I assume the Admore harness will be in order to make it happen. 

I agree with a nice wide arc, and these are even brighter and whiter than my headlight.  And brighter/whiter than the Fogs on a friends F6C (at least twice as bright as they advertised)  and brighter than a friends F6B fogs as well both of which are the earlier ShowChrome LED fog lights.  Hopefully have the opportunity to get a comparo with the SoCal lights (at least the Fog portion before the snow flies).

[PAVALKER]

I doubt the early lights will be as bright as the So Cal but the newest ones might be. Im interested in how they compare when you can get your friend out. 

The new lights that I have are noticeably brighter than the SoCal lights, and they protrude out of the cowl about 1/2 or 3/4 of an inch, hiding the cuts better and also providing more lighting around the immediate area of the ground etc.   The other Valkyrie Rider with the SoCal lights kept thinking I had my lights adjusted wrong, pointing up, but when we got them side by side and pointing to a wall....it was clear that the ShowChromes are whiter and brighter.

Have not yet wired up the turn signals.....still considering it, maybe in spring.

[wtm]

Thanks for the info. I was going to go with SC for the turn lights but will pass. Sounds like their service  needs to improve.