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svsteve
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« on: October 24, 2017, 07:09:15 AM »

Hey all. Im gonna be doing my timing belts over the winter. I bought a trigger wheel many years ago and its just been sitting on the shelf. The envelope says Jan 02 when I bought it. Came from Direct Line and has a 06 stamped into it. The teeth are kinda rounded , not squared off. You guys that are running trigger wheels, would you do it again or not. Figure since I'm finally getting into the belt area I would finally install this. Thought please. Yay or nay.
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 07:43:07 AM »

rounder teeth can be a problem.  Best to modify the OEM.  4 degrees is all is needed. 6 degrees needs premium and will lose too much HP in the upper RPMs.  FactoryPro.com also only recommends a 4 degree stating 6 is too much, they sell one.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 09:43:15 AM »

And some that have installed them have removed them. Maybe look for an I C M from an I/S? RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 10:22:42 AM »

I had one. Didn't like it. Took it out. Lost power on top end. Want mine?
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flash2002
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 10:28:03 AM »

I did install a 6 degree on my first standard Valk and it ran super well on regular with no mods. I did polish the intakes and install a K&N filter. This mod gave me about 30 miles per tank on regular and more power. Maybe USA bikes are different than Canadian bikes for this kind of mod. If I remember, the trigger wheel came from I think air lake.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 12:53:42 PM »

One of my bikes came with a 4 degree Air Lake wheel (interstate; stds and tourers take 6 degrees). It caused me to occasionally knock on 87 octane in hard/fast/uphill riding.  I took it out and went back to OE.  If I lost 1 MPG, I would be surprised.

Honestly, the butt dyno could discern no difference in power whatsoever.   But I no longer knock on 87.

IMHO, trigger wheels are all blow and no show.  

If you want to start messing with ignition, heads, exhaust, the air box, etc, a trigger wheel might be part of a good package.  Alone, don't waste your time.
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Jopson
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 07:59:32 PM »

One of the best things I did was take mine out and put a stock one in! Absolute bitch to start on cold mornings. Did the ECT mod instead, that seems to work better than the trigger wheel did.
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FarmerRick
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 07:08:58 AM »

One of the best things I did was take mine out and put a stock one in! Absolute bitch to start on cold mornings. Did the ECT mod instead, that seems to work better than the trigger wheel did.

What is a ECT mod?  Haven't heard of that before.
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2017, 07:54:20 AM »

What is a ECT mod?  Haven't heard of that before.

If you haven't yet, have a look at the Shoptalk link, just under the tabs at the top of any message board page.  Here's a link directly to the ECT mod page:
http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/ect-mod.htm
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98valk
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2017, 07:58:29 AM »

ECT mod adds only a few degrees advance at 3k rpms and then no extra. most of the advance is around 2k rpms. when fully warmed up it is too much down low, it need to be shut off.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2017, 07:17:34 AM »

I did the trigger wheel, and liked what it did. But understanding what it's doing is important.

Advancing the timing will give the Valkyrie a better low end grunt. At the lower revs you will feel more power.

However what you gain at the bottom end, you will loose at the top end. Because the Trigger Wheel advances the time across the entire Rev range you run out of timing at the top end. When the trigger wheel was installed on my bike it would top out at 105 mph (it didn't have much power up there either).

IMPORTANT! - If you install the Trigger Wheel you will need to run 91 octane fuel!

What you need to do is decide on what you want in your bike. Most like a better low end because who often rides over a 100 mph. However some don't like to be limited on the top end.

You do have other options.. If your bike is a Standard/Tourer, you can get an Interstate ICM which will give you timing advance and you won't loose anything at the top end.

Your next option will require a lot of work. Way back in the day the company DynaTek made a Ignition Module (Dyna3000) for our Valkyrie's, but they no longer make it. If you really, really hunt you might be able to find one. Why do you want a Dyna3000 ICM? It's adjustable! It has different advance curves that can be set, and those curves are across the rev range so your gains are across the board.

I now have the Dyna3000 ICM, and sold off my trigger wheel. I played with the different advance curves until the bike felt the best. I also noticed a 3-5 mpg increase in fuel economy.

Hope all this helps, and good luck.

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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2017, 06:44:38 AM »

NAY! 

Not necessary to go through all this.  Do this instead and have the ability to configure on the fly what you want.

http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/ect-mod.htm

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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2017, 07:34:53 PM »

I've noticed the ICM for a standard/tourer has been discontinued (30410-MZ0-671).
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