Robert
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« on: February 20, 2018, 06:24:08 AM » |
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I got a nail in the rear tire of my Valk and did repair it with a plug. I have found the black ones you get at a auto parts store actually loose their coating and can leak air down the road. But the red commercial ones are really good don't loose their sealing abilities and didn't even have to ream out the hole like in some instances. The tire is just about ready for replacement so it was not so bad, but I was wondering what your guys opinions on replacing or repairing a tire. 
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KUGO
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2018, 06:54:10 AM » |
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I think that it matters, but in different ways to different people. I realize how in my older years that I have become almost obsessive in things like checking air pressure, tread depth, which tires are the best in the rain, etc. I don't remember hopping on any of my bikes forty-fifty years ago and thinking much of any of that except, "Good! It's holdin' air!". Seriously, and that's with the relatively poor tires we had back then! Nowadays, a plug is only good for getting me home and a new tire becomes a priority. Years ago, I'd have to decide on whether I could afford a new tire that month and still get by. Now I think more about how much longer it will take me to heal from going down. Priorities do change! (Likewise, plugs seem to have improved over the years as well.) And thank you for the tire advice you gave me a week ago. I have maybe another 3K left on my RT and I'll see if the Michelin-man has developed the GT5 by then. I had heard it may come out sometime this riding season. (Yes, Robert, up here we have what we call "seasons".)
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bscrive
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2018, 10:57:57 AM » |
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Robert,
If it is close to being replaced then I wouldn't bother with a plug. I have seen too many fail in car tires let alone one on a motorcycle tire.
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Bill Havins
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2018, 01:01:48 PM » |
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My vote? Replace the tire. But, come to think of it, I have absolutely no first-hand experience that leads me to that opinion. I don't have any "cousin-of-a-friend said" experience, either. It just seems to be the commonly held opinion of the folks who I know who are "in the business." Could be they're all wet. I just don't know.
Robert, your post caused me to consider my "touring kit" that's in my pannier. In the kit is a little "emergency" compressor, some tire plugs, tools, and a tube of rubber cement. I've just realized those things are all at least eight years old.... Oh boy! The only things that might be any good in that kit are the tire tools and the compressor...and I'm not so sure about the compressor. I better check it all.
Thanks for the reminder!
Bill
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Robert
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2018, 02:52:21 PM » |
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Season, Whats a season?  Thanks guys, and yes Bill always good to check. I did the same thing when transferring everything to the 1800 and did in fact throw the old inserts away. Leathal, 3 repairs  now thats a man with experience. Bs I was out and about so not doing a plug was not an option, I had to do the plug to get home and it went in fine and should hold ok. But I think I will replace it, I just may not be in a real rush. Heck I was worried that I would get a nail in it, at least there is no more worry about that Safety Seal 656267100061 Tire Repair Plugs, 60 Inserts https://www.amazon.com/Safety-Seal-656267100061-Repair-Inserts/dp/B00B0WZJIU/ref=pd_sim_263_1/141-4653009-8401163?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00B0WZJIU&pd_rd_r=RQMPDHZ1MFGPDD83N2GT&pd_rd_w=wIDRB&pd_rd_wg=gVqMq&psc=1&refRID=RQMPDHZ1MFGPDD83N2GTSafety Seal KAP30 30 String Pro Tire Repair Kit with Storage Case https://www.amazon.com/Safety-Seal-KAP30-String-Storage/dp/B001DIECCK
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« Last Edit: February 20, 2018, 03:01:30 PM by Robert »
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2018, 05:27:40 PM » |
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I have used various plugs, and swear by the Stop-n-Go Tire plug kit with rubber mushroom plugs, that have never given me issues of coming loose or out as with those string or rope plugs. It is more of a permanent repair IMO. https://www.stopngo.com/pocket-tire-plugger-for-all-tubeless-tires/
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2018, 06:40:54 PM » |
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Leathal, 3 repairs  now thats a man with experience. Bs I was out and about so not doing a plug was not an option, I had to do the plug to get home and it went in fine and should hold ok. But I think I will replace it, I just may not be in a real rush. Heck I was worried that I would get a nail in it, at least there is no more worry about that The Rope type repairs will not pass our Warrant Of Fitness test, we have to get our bikes inspected every 6-24 months depending on the year of manufacture... I went with the stop and go kit like above, they work well to get you home at least, Have used them to fix car tires and just left them in, but always replaced them with a full sized mushroom repair on the bike ASAP, I did have 1 repair go down on the bike but it got me home After getting 3 punctures in the last tire I went down the road of getting a sealant brushed on before the tire was fitted, supposed to be good stuff, can't remember what it was called. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2018, 05:42:39 PM » |
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I am about as biased as they come on this topic. About a year and a half ago I lost my 30 year old best friend to a bike accident. He had a plugged tire that I was vocal about him changing. To this day I don't know the cause of the accident. That being said, and admitting my bias, I just don't see how this is anything other than a no-brainer except for temporary finance. In a car, you have 3 backup tires and multiple points of stability if one goes, and on the highway, it's still dangerous. On a bike, it's pass/fail. I have no issues with plugging a tire to make it home safely, as one might be a little more cautious on riding that tire home. But in terms of confidence in plugs as a long term solution for normal riding behaviours, that just seems like pure hubris to me.
Jason
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2018, 06:21:05 AM » |
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Yes. I agree. Buy a new tire. I put Rideon tire sealant and balance in all motorcycle tires. Excellent product for peace of mind. Don't save $200 at the risk of your life
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