hi point handgun thoughts?

[cookiedough]

I have seen these before just looking, never firing, and sounds like got good reviews overall if can get over the heaviness and ugliness.  thoughts?

https://www.ganderoutdoors.com/product/details?pdesc=Hi-Point-C-9-Handgun&i=201262

basically if it fires and works as it should being somewhat reliable firing ammo with very few issues, I see no reason to spend 400 vs. 150 on something I will fire/use very limited use.

9mm vs. .40 vs. .45 as well thoughts,  but ammo is cheap (1/2 price or so) for 9mm vs. the others.  I thought I read awhile ago that 9mm is perfectly fine for self defense do not really need .40 or .45 caliber that 9mm will do the trick, thoughts??  Yah, I know, a well placed shot is crucial no matter the caliber, even a .22 could kill.

[Serk]

I understand the appeal of a low cost alternative, but I'm not a fan of the Hi Points. They go bang... Usually... Most of the time. If you're lucky.

Have a watch of Hickok45 reviewing 'em. He admits up front he's not a fan of 'em, but gives 'em an honest review IMHO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCNx0Ql2ZZw

As far as caliber, I used to be a major .40 or .45 fan, but with modern defensive ammo the 9mm has mostly closed the gap and is a perfectly acceptable caliber for self defense...

[lakehunter]

I see a lot of less than favorable comments everywhere, but very few from actual owners ! Most are just repeating someone else's opinion, who may not have been an owner either, lol. I am a owner, 45acp model also the 45acp carbine, great low cost "truck gun", if it gets stolen I'm not out hundreds of bucks. The 45acp version is all I can comment on as that is what I actually own, they never fail, always cycle, always fire, plenty accurate for defense. The carbine will print in a 6 inch circle at 100 yards all day. Again, mine have been 100 per cent reliable. As to 9mm vs 45acp, get Federal Hydro-shock 165 grain defense loads, compares to 9mm like tossing a concrete block vs a gravel, you pick. The new Novx loads using the ARX projectile are simply awesome, just look up the reviews, they make the 9mm sound equal to a 45acp so just think what that load is when actually in 45acp. In the end you have to decide if their clunky appearance turns you off or not, in my opinion they would certainly look a lot more intimidating to a bad guy than a bitty 380 pocket pistol, might be the difference between actually firing or just keeping them at bay till the authorities come clean up. Have fun investigating, Mike.

[solo1]

I have no experience with Hi Point handguns.  Yes, they depend on blowback exclusively and that makes them heavy.

However, I have two Hi Point carbines, both in .40 caliber. using Hi Point magazines.  I have had NO malfunctions of ANY kind in over 200 rounds. One is equipped with a red dot and the other has original adequate sights.

I have shot 20 rounds at 50 yards with the red dot equipped carbine and the group was 3 inches. A 20 round group at 50 yards is decent. I say that's more than adequate for reliability and accuracy. Just because they're cheap doesn't mean that they are not reliable.  I would use them in a defensive situation ANY TIME!. They have a no BS lifetime warrantee.

The disadvantages are they are heavy, kinda bitchy to clean, and are touchy about magazines other
than Hi Points mags.  Mags are 20 bucks.  I have about 10  10 round mags.

I also have a LCR in 9mm.  Either the.40 or the 9mm with decent hollow point bullets would be fine. I'm partial to the .40 but it's a higher pressure round than the 9mm and somewhat less mag capacity in most guns.

[Psychotic Bovine]

From what I have read, a lot of people hate the look, the feel, the weight, and the trigger pull.
But, these same people readily admit they do work, and they are durable.  They have a lifetime warranty from what I remember.  My father has two hi-point carbines and if you get past the somewhat clunky feel, they are very good.  Pretty accurate and have never failed to function.
I would recommend one for home defense (pistol or carbine), but not for defensive carry due to size and weight.

[h13man]

Had the .380 that you could use for a billy club if it failed it was that big. Paid $110 used. Sold it to a coworker for $150.  Later on got a good deal on the 45 ACP carbine. Didn't feel right ergonomically speaking and got dirty really bad after 50-100 rounds. I sold it a month later. You get what you pay for.

[MAD6Gun]

 My advice if you are looking into a inexpensive handgun look at Rugers. Not as cheep as a highpoint and not as expensive as a Smith or Colt but much better quality than a highpoint .  As far as caliber I prefer 45ACP but 40 is a very good caliber and like Serk said with new tech the 9mm is good as well.

[solo1]

Keep in mind that I wouldn't want a Hi Point handgun. Too big.  I'll stick with my Kimber Micro Raptor 9mm for carry.  In lieu of that my LCR in the same caliber or my Sig full size 320 in .40 (getting a little larger there.)

[MarkT]

I'm not into cheap guns (or other tools) but that's just me.  OTOH depends on what it is.  I have quite a few HF tools - found if you're selective you can save big bucks on some things w/o regretting it.  For defensive carry I'm all about carrying two SS J-frame Smith .357's (model 60 and model 649) both with green Crimson Trace laser grips.  But that makes them a thousand ea, lots more than $150.  In this case the quality I paid for shows.  I once had a Hi Point .22 revolver which was cheap and unreliable.  Got rid of it some decades ago.

[3fan4life]

I don't know anything about the Hi Point.

It seems that the major complaint against it is its bulk and weight.

If I was in the market for a few $$ more I'd look at the Ruger:

https://www.rkguns.com/ruger-ec9s-9mm-7rd-3-12-centerfire-pistol-3283.html

[old2soon]

Home defense after my 12 gauge is my .40 S & W VE. 165 grain hollow points are ALWAYS the first 14 rounds. Pocket Pistola is my smaller Kel Tech .380. Thinkin the S & W was a smidge north of $300.00 and the K T came in south of $200.00. What's yer life and yer Families life worth? RIDE SAFE.

[cookiedough]

I don't know anything about the Hi Point.

It seems that the major complaint against it is its bulk and weight.

If I was in the market for a few $$ more I'd look at the Ruger:

https://www.rkguns.com/ruger-ec9s-9mm-7rd-3-12-centerfire-pistol-3283.html

Yah,  just saw today the Ruger EC9 for around 225, only 75 bucks more being lighter and smaller and probably more reliable in the long run. 

[MAD6Gun]

I don't know anything about the Hi Point.

It seems that the major complaint against it is its bulk and weight.

If I was in the market for a few $$ more I'd look at the Ruger:

https://www.rkguns.com/ruger-ec9s-9mm-7rd-3-12-centerfire-pistol-3283.html

Yah,  just saw today the Ruger EC9 for around 225, only 75 bucks more being lighter and smaller and probably more reliable in the long run. 

 Didn't I say that above..lol.. Can't go wrong with a Ruger.....

[solo1]

Just about every gun discussed here is a good'un.  However, if I would enter any of my handguns in a 'beauty' contest, it would this one, My Kimber micro 9mm Raptor.

 Steel fixed  3 dot Tritium sights, ambidextrous safety, thin, reliable, accurate for the job, and well suited to southpaw shooting.   For CC it is small and what I needed. Superb Workmanship.

[Jess from VA]

It's hard to argue with anything from Kimber Wayne.  

Anybody have one of their new(er) revolvers?

They are probably great, but I'm a S&W guy, and don't need any others.  All steel, heavy, 6 (not 5) shooters, and all hammer-less.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/revolver

[Bighead]

I personally have a 9 mm high point. Bought it just b cause it was $125 new.  That being said it is a brick and ugly as any sin ever committed, but I have shot several 1000 rounds throught it with no zero naddaa misfeed or missfire. And as was said before if it does fail throw it at the perp. I keep mine on my night stand .there is also another 9 and a 45 within reach.
Go on you tube there are many people who want to hate it and do but they can not kill  it.
Mine shoots true and has never failed. My first choice hell no but it does what is was made to do. Also has a Lifetime warranty.

[¿spoom]

I see a lot of less than favorable comments everywhere, but very few from actual owners ! Most are just repeating someone else's opinion, who may not have been an owner either, lol. I am a owner, 45acp model also the 45acp carbine, great low cost "truck gun", if it gets stolen I'm not out hundreds of bucks. The 45acp version is all I can comment on as that is what I actually own, they never fail, always cycle, always fire, plenty accurate for defense. The carbine will print in a 6 inch circle at 100 yards all day. Again, mine have been 100 per cent reliable. As to 9mm vs 45acp, get Federal Hydro-shock 165 grain defense loads, compares to 9mm like tossing a concrete block vs a gravel, you pick. The new Novx loads using the ARX projectile are simply awesome, just look up the reviews, they make the 9mm sound equal to a 45acp so just think what that load is when actually in 45acp. In the end you have to decide if their clunky appearance turns you off or not, in my opinion they would certainly look a lot more intimidating to a bad guy than a bitty 380 pocket pistol, might be the difference between actually firing or just keeping them at bay till the authorities come clean up. Have fun investigating, Mike.

"The 45acp version is all I can comment on as that is what I actually own, they never fail, always cycle" Well, that puts it ahead of a lot of early Kimber Solo's. Ducking & running 

[Jess from VA]

Not a HiPoint, but I've had a Taurus 945 for many years (.45ACP).  My only Taurus.  I wanted a blue one, but the stainless was actually cheaper where I bought it, so I got that one (right at $400).  It's a Commander 4.25"bbl, alloy frame (so fairly lightweight 29.5 oz), with a very nice fit and finish.  It is a (partially) Sig clone in design with inverted rails (and you can see it looking at them).

But the really amazing thing about this pistol is that it has never ever had had a single hickup from brand new. Zero failures of any kind, and that's hard to come by no matter what you spend  (I haven't put thousands and thousands through it, but shot it plenty).  It shoots every .45acp you can find to stick in it (and reloads), every time.  It's very accurate (fixed combat sights, but perfect from the factory).  Magazines are 8rd standard (not 7).  You do some poking around for reviews, you'll find the reliability thing noted in them.

It's double action, but the three position (ambi) safety (located where all 1911 thumb safeties are) is a dec o c k er (down), off, and c o c ked and locked (up) capable (which is a very nice feature).  Setting the hammer down on a loaded 1911 is an old school proposition of blocking the hammer with your finger as you carefully let it down.  Dec o c k is much better.  And how many double action autos have a c o c ked and locked ability (instead of the old lousy 15lb first double action trigger pull)?  And if you don't want c o c ked and locked, you can have one in the chamber with the hammer down, but still push the safety up, and it will not fire until you wipe it off (protection against a gun grab).  The double action trigger is very smooth (compared to many), and the single action very light and crisp (with a little military take up, but not creep).  Also a loaded chamber indicator (even though you ought to know).

I'm not going to discuss Taurus quality (in the old days and today), but this particular pistol is a diamond in the rough, and a real value.  No longer made (I just discovered), but used is always a possibility at shops, shows or gun boards.



Not many aftermarket grips were available, and I put Taurus' rosewood on mine.


They made a number of them with that god awful gold plated doodad triggers, hammers, safeties, roll pins, etc (what were they thinking?).

I also have one of these (West German), and it's a good pistol, but well over twice the price, and no more reliable than the Taurus.

[Gavin_Sons]

spend another 200 and get a decent gun. Yes hi points work. I have a 9mm that i keep in my tackle box for snakes and turtles while fishing, It can also double as a boat anchor.