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« Reply #80 on: August 02, 2018, 10:36:48 AM »

Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.


So, you don't care what the Mueller report has to say ?

Nope,don't care at all
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« Reply #81 on: August 02, 2018, 10:39:20 AM »

I’d be curious to know what Mueller has to say for the millions of dollars invested in his investigation. I just hope it comes out during my lifetime.

I'll admit, I would perk up a bit if QAnon turns out to be right and Mueller isn't corrupt, has been investigating Obama, Hillary and their ilk and their corruption all this time and is just pretending to go after Trump to protect himself while he goes after the true evil in Washington, but that's highly HIGHLY unlikely at this point.

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« Reply #82 on: August 02, 2018, 10:47:11 AM »


Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.



Even the judge in the Manafort trial know it's a witch hunt......... In a May 4 hearing on the challenge, Ellis repeatedly suggested that the prosecutors were not really interested in prosecuting the charges but had filed them to exert pressure on Manafort to cooperate with the special counsel's investigation into Trump.

Somebody has to be able to say to Mueller "Enough.  Show us what you got" . If he's allowed to pull in every business person and lawyer Trump has dealt with, of course he's gonna find improprieties......  They are business people and lawyers, right?  And throughout it all.... the so-called indictments (national and international), the leaks, the bias in the intelligence agencies, etc....  Still no evidence of collusion (which is not a crime) or any actual crimes by Trump or his campaign.  And the fact Trump is still getting things done and pushing policy and signing law, means they REALLY DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING or they would stop him from any more WINNING.

Sad.
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« Reply #83 on: August 02, 2018, 10:54:27 AM »

I find it interesting that a thread showcasing a talented painter has been so thoroughly derailed.  This wasn't a political thread, initially.
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« Reply #84 on: August 02, 2018, 11:16:21 AM »

I find it interesting that a thread showcasing a talented painter has been so thoroughly derailed.  This wasn't a political thread, initially.

A post with Trump depicted as George Washington crossing the Delaware isn't political ?  Shocked
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« Reply #85 on: August 02, 2018, 11:20:56 AM »

I’d be curious to know what Mueller has to say for the millions of dollars invested in his investigation. I just hope it comes out during my lifetime.

I'll admit, I would perk up a bit if QAnon turns out to be right and Mueller isn't corrupt, has been investigating Obama, Hillary and their ilk and their corruption all this time and is just pretending to go after Trump to protect himself while he goes after the true evil in Washington, but that's highly HIGHLY unlikely at this point.


Sounds pretty partisan. You are not interested if there is wrongdoing by Trump or his associates, but you are interested if they find wrongdoing by Clinton, Obama. Very telling.  coolsmiley
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« Reply #86 on: August 02, 2018, 11:24:10 AM »

I find it interesting that a thread showcasing a talented painter has been so thoroughly derailed.  This wasn't a political thread, initially.

A post with Trump depicted as George Washington crossing the Delaware isn't political ?  Shocked

The initial thread appeared to be nothing more than someone posting the talent of an artist that some may find interesting.
I know that there are people who see politics in everything, just like there are those whom are perpetually offended.  Just because a painting, photograph or video is of a politician, it doesn't make it political.
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« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2018, 11:34:24 AM »

I find it interesting that a thread showcasing a talented painter has been so thoroughly derailed.  This wasn't a political thread, initially.

A post with Trump depicted as George Washington crossing the Delaware isn't political ?  Shocked

The initial thread appeared to be nothing more than someone posting the talent of an artist that some may find interesting.
I know that there are people who see politics in everything, just like there are those whom are perpetually offended.  Just because a painting, photograph or video is of a politician, it doesn't make it political.
Grin and the title "Navigating the swamp" is referring to Trump hunting alligators with the "Swamp People"  coolsmiley
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« Reply #88 on: August 02, 2018, 11:35:41 AM »

I’d be curious to know what Mueller has to say for the millions of dollars invested in his investigation. I just hope it comes out during my lifetime.

I'll admit, I would perk up a bit if QAnon turns out to be right and Mueller isn't corrupt, has been investigating Obama, Hillary and their ilk and their corruption all this time and is just pretending to go after Trump to protect himself while he goes after the true evil in Washington, but that's highly HIGHLY unlikely at this point.


Sounds pretty partisan. You are not interested if there is wrongdoing by Trump or his associates, but you are interested if they find wrongdoing by Clinton, Obama. Very telling.  coolsmiley

The assumption is that this whole thing is a politically motivated witch hunt to bring down a legitimately elected sitting president.

If he shows that he's actually a loyal American by going after the real criminals, it would show a different character than I suspect him of having currently.
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« Reply #89 on: August 02, 2018, 11:37:49 AM »

Grin and the title "Navigating the swamp" is referring to Trump hunting alligators with the "Swamp People"  coolsmiley

Probably not, But I'd love to see that episode!  Evil
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« Reply #90 on: August 02, 2018, 11:42:12 AM »

I find it interesting that a thread showcasing a talented painter has been so thoroughly derailed.  This wasn't a political thread, initially.

A post with Trump depicted as George Washington crossing the Delaware isn't political ?  Shocked

The initial thread appeared to be nothing more than someone posting the talent of an artist that some may find interesting.
I know that there are people who see politics in everything, just like there are those whom are perpetually offended.  Just because a painting, photograph or video is of a politician, it doesn't make it political.
Grin and the title "Navigating the swamp" is referring to Trump hunting alligators with the "Swamp People"  coolsmiley

I think it's the title the artist gave the piece.  Undecided
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« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2018, 11:47:37 AM »

I’d be curious to know what Mueller has to say for the millions of dollars invested in his investigation. I just hope it comes out during my lifetime.

I'll admit, I would perk up a bit if QAnon turns out to be right and Mueller isn't corrupt, has been investigating Obama, Hillary and their ilk and their corruption all this time and is just pretending to go after Trump to protect himself while he goes after the true evil in Washington, but that's highly HIGHLY unlikely at this point.


Sounds pretty partisan. You are not interested if there is wrongdoing by Trump or his associates, but you are interested if they find wrongdoing by Clinton, Obama. Very telling.  coolsmiley

The assumption is that this whole thing is a politically motivated witch hunt to bring down a legitimately elected sitting president.

If he shows that he's actually a loyal American by going after the real criminals, it would show a different character than I suspect him of having currently.

May I remind you the Special Counsel investigation was begun by an appointee of Trumps. Who also happens to be a loyal American. May I also remind you Mueller has served his country honorably for decades and is a loyal American.
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« Reply #92 on: August 02, 2018, 11:48:47 AM »

Grin and the title "Navigating the swamp" is referring to Trump hunting alligators with the "Swamp People"  coolsmiley

Probably not, But I'd love to see that episode!  Evil
2funny I think I would too !
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« Reply #93 on: August 02, 2018, 11:49:43 AM »

May I remind you the Special Counsel investigation was begun by an appointee of Trumps. Who also happens to be a loyal American. May I also remind you Mueller has served his country honorably for decades and is a loyal American.

Your definition of 'honorably' and 'loyal American' are very different from mine... I'll just leave it at that...

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« Reply #94 on: August 02, 2018, 11:53:48 AM »

May I remind you the Special Counsel investigation was begun by an appointee of Trumps. Who also happens to be a loyal American. May I also remind you Mueller has served his country honorably for decades and is a loyal American.

Your definition of 'honorably' and 'loyal American' are very different from mine... I'll just leave it at that...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
I see NOTHING in that resume that is dishonorable. I doubt you do either. coolsmiley
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« Reply #95 on: August 02, 2018, 12:02:11 PM »

May I remind you the Special Counsel investigation was begun by an appointee of Trumps. Who also happens to be a loyal American. May I also remind you Mueller has served his country honorably for decades and is a loyal American.

Your definition of 'honorably' and 'loyal American' are very different from mine... I'll just leave it at that...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
I see NOTHING in that resume that is dishonorable. I doubt you do either. coolsmiley

We'll see how honorable or dishonorable he truly is when (if?) his report is released.
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« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2018, 12:07:44 PM »

May I remind you the Special Counsel investigation was begun by an appointee of Trumps. Who also happens to be a loyal American. May I also remind you Mueller has served his country honorably for decades and is a loyal American.

Your definition of 'honorably' and 'loyal American' are very different from mine... I'll just leave it at that...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
I see NOTHING in that resume that is dishonorable. I doubt you do either. coolsmiley

We'll see how honorable or dishonorable he truly is when (if?) his report is released.

ah....now we get to the crux. If he finds Trump did something illegal he is dishonorable , if not he is honorable. Regardless of his squeaky clean 50 year history.
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« Reply #97 on: August 02, 2018, 12:15:20 PM »

ah....now we get to the crux. If he finds Trump did something illegal he is dishonorable , if not he is honorable. Regardless of his squeaky clean 50 year history.

If he finds something, ANYTHING on Trump that he was ordered to find by his masters, than he is a corrupt swamp monster and worthy of no respect.

If he leaves the plantation and is brave enough to go after the real criminals, then he will have earned my respect.

And yes, I realize him worrying about if he has my respect or not must keep him up at night.
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« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2018, 12:17:33 PM »

May I remind you the Special Counsel investigation was begun by an appointee of Trumps. Who also happens to be a loyal American. May I also remind you Mueller has served his country honorably for decades and is a loyal American.

Your definition of 'honorably' and 'loyal American' are very different from mine... I'll just leave it at that...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
I see NOTHING in that resume that is dishonorable. I doubt you do either. coolsmiley

Nope, nothing in there that indicates anything bad.
This Newsweek article, however.....
https://www.newsweek.com/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-aides-criticize-722670

Seems he has an impeccable resume because other people shield him from criticism.

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« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2018, 12:22:14 PM »

May I remind you the Special Counsel investigation was begun by an appointee of Trumps. Who also happens to be a loyal American. May I also remind you Mueller has served his country honorably for decades and is a loyal American.

Your definition of 'honorably' and 'loyal American' are very different from mine... I'll just leave it at that...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
I see NOTHING in that resume that is dishonorable. I doubt you do either. coolsmiley

We'll see how honorable or dishonorable he truly is when (if?) his report is released.

ah....now we get to the crux. If he finds Trump did something illegal he is dishonorable , if not he is honorable. Regardless of his squeaky clean 50 year history.

Rob, you are a dog with a bone. I like your style... cooldude
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« Reply #100 on: August 02, 2018, 12:27:12 PM »

May I remind you the Special Counsel investigation was begun by an appointee of Trumps. Who also happens to be a loyal American. May I also remind you Mueller has served his country honorably for decades and is a loyal American.

Your definition of 'honorably' and 'loyal American' are very different from mine... I'll just leave it at that...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mueller
I see NOTHING in that resume that is dishonorable. I doubt you do either. coolsmiley

We'll see how honorable or dishonorable he truly is when (if?) his report is released.

ah....now we get to the crux. If he finds Trump did something illegal he is dishonorable , if not he is honorable. Regardless of his squeaky clean 50 year history.

Rob, you are a dog with a bone. I like your style... cooldude
2funny (you realize you are in the extreme minority)  Grin

I've refrained from most political posts for months. Seeing Trump portrayed as Washington and Superman must have tripped me up.  Smiley
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« Reply #101 on: August 02, 2018, 12:33:16 PM »

Seeing Trump portrayed as Washington and Superman must have tripped me up.  Smiley












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« Reply #102 on: August 02, 2018, 12:48:34 PM »

I've got some pictures I'd like to share... Cool
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« Reply #103 on: August 02, 2018, 12:56:03 PM »

I've got some pictures I'd like to share... Cool

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« Reply #104 on: August 02, 2018, 12:58:52 PM »

I've got some pictures I'd like to share... Cool



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« Reply #105 on: August 02, 2018, 01:09:48 PM »

Seeing Trump portrayed as Washington and Superman must have tripped me up.  Smiley













And here I thought we were tight  Wink
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« Reply #106 on: August 02, 2018, 01:48:24 PM »

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« Reply #107 on: August 02, 2018, 01:56:23 PM »

I've got some pictures I'd like to share... Cool



I had a mouthful of water as I saw this.  Thanks!

What a mess.

 Cheesy

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« Reply #108 on: August 02, 2018, 02:24:53 PM »

I've got some pictures I'd like to share... Cool



I had a mouthful of water as I saw this.  Thanks!

What a mess.

 Cheesy



Happy to oblige...... Cheesy
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« Reply #109 on: August 02, 2018, 02:56:34 PM »

Mueller yea just like McCain  2funny


INVESTIGATION: WHY DID ROBERT MUELLER ALLOW THE BIGGEST CHILD PORN PROCESSOR IN CALIFORNIA TO STAY **OUT** OF PRISON?

    Thursday, 02 August 2018 00:55

David Asimov, of Living Oak Court, Bennett Ridge, Santa Rosa, CA, the son of the late science fiction writer Isaac Asimov, was sentenced on March 28, 2001 to six months' home detention with electronic monitoring and three years federal probation for possessing child pornography.

The US Attorney who made that deal with Asimov?  Robert S. Mueller III, who is currently Special Counsel of the United States, investigating President Trump on (phony) allegations of "Russia Collusion."

Why would Robert Mueller give such a sweetheart plea deal to one of the biggest child porn producers in California?  One wonders if Mueller was a customer?  Or did Mueller KNOW many of the customers on Asimov's distribution lists to be high-powered bigshots over whom he could use this info as leverage to further his own career?  Is that how he went from US Attorney to FBI Director?

U.S. District Court Judge Maxine M. Chesney sentenced Asimov after reviewing a series of sealed psychiatric reports, one of which was ordered by the court. Asimov was charged with four federal counts of possession of child pornography with each count carrying a five year sentence,
pleaded guilty to two counts in a plea bargain deal.

There was no forfeiture of any of Asimov's assets in this case, despite his owning a home in Santa Rosa purchased in 1996 for $375,000, and despite his receiving $3,000 per month from his father's estate.

How did Asimov, who possessed one of the largest stashes of pornography in California, skate away from federal prison? A look at the players yields the answer.

Asimov's child porn stash was so big many child victims and perpetrators would have taken a fall, had Asimov been zealously prosecuted at trial.


The police raided Asimov's four-bedroom home with a search warrant and discovered the largest child porn "processing center" ever discovered in California. "There were thousands of disks, thousands of videos," said Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy, who personally referred to Asimov's home as a "processing center" for child pornography. "Anything imaginable regarding sex between human beings and human beings, or human beings and animals, was there. Whatever your imagination can conjure up, he had it. It was like walking into a TV studio"

Santa Rosa police seized scores of computer disks and approximately 4,000 videocassettes from Asimov's home, and approximately 1,000 of those videos contained child pornography.

Medvigy said he had evidence to show Asimov distributed child pornography through the Internet ``on at least a few occasions,'' which would constitute a felony. He said Asimov had 14 video machines arranged for high-speed editing and copying, and possessed cases of blank tapes.

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« Reply #110 on: August 03, 2018, 02:06:42 PM »

Mueller yea just like McCain  2funny


INVESTIGATION: WHY DID ROBERT MUELLER ALLOW THE BIGGEST CHILD PORN PROCESSOR IN CALIFORNIA TO STAY **OUT** OF PRISON?

    Thursday, 02 August 2018 00:55

David Asimov, of Living Oak Court, Bennett Ridge, Santa Rosa, CA, the son of the late science fiction writer Isaac Asimov, was sentenced on March 28, 2001 to six months' home detention with electronic monitoring and three years federal probation for possessing child pornography.

The US Attorney who made that deal with Asimov?  Robert S. Mueller III, who is currently Special Counsel of the United States, investigating President Trump on (phony) allegations of "Russia Collusion."

Why would Robert Mueller give such a sweetheart plea deal to one of the biggest child porn producers in California?  One wonders if Mueller was a customer?  Or did Mueller KNOW many of the customers on Asimov's distribution lists to be high-powered bigshots over whom he could use this info as leverage to further his own career?  Is that how he went from US Attorney to FBI Director?

U.S. District Court Judge Maxine M. Chesney sentenced Asimov after reviewing a series of sealed psychiatric reports, one of which was ordered by the court. Asimov was charged with four federal counts of possession of child pornography with each count carrying a five year sentence,
pleaded guilty to two counts in a plea bargain deal.

There was no forfeiture of any of Asimov's assets in this case, despite his owning a home in Santa Rosa purchased in 1996 for $375,000, and despite his receiving $3,000 per month from his father's estate.

How did Asimov, who possessed one of the largest stashes of pornography in California, skate away from federal prison? A look at the players yields the answer.

Asimov's child porn stash was so big many child victims and perpetrators would have taken a fall, had Asimov been zealously prosecuted at trial.


The police raided Asimov's four-bedroom home with a search warrant and discovered the largest child porn "processing center" ever discovered in California. "There were thousands of disks, thousands of videos," said Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy, who personally referred to Asimov's home as a "processing center" for child pornography. "Anything imaginable regarding sex between human beings and human beings, or human beings and animals, was there. Whatever your imagination can conjure up, he had it. It was like walking into a TV studio"

Santa Rosa police seized scores of computer disks and approximately 4,000 videocassettes from Asimov's home, and approximately 1,000 of those videos contained child pornography.

Medvigy said he had evidence to show Asimov distributed child pornography through the Internet ``on at least a few occasions,'' which would constitute a felony. He said Asimov had 14 video machines arranged for high-speed editing and copying, and possessed cases of blank tapes.


                      All I'm saying here IF true then WHYWHYWHYWHY is this child pornographer still breathing other peoples free air? And again-IF true-lotsa why's on the last administrations investigations makin a tad more sense now. And to be CRYSTAL CLEAR here I'm talking about the last democratic holders of the offices in deception central. RIDE SAFE.
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