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Yet MORE bad news here in the U S of A. That young Lady last seen jogging around Brooklyn Ia. has been found dead I'm sad to say.  I Hope and PRAY they find her MURDERER soon and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. Did NOT know her or the Wife that along with her unborn and 2 Daughters in Colorado that also were murdered. WHY then am I so sad over this news? Maybe I'm more human than I give myself credit for. May all 5 of you FOREVER R I P.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2018, 09:06:59 AM » |
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Supposed to be a police report on the particulars at 5:00 this afternoon.
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It’s a shame having lived not far from the area at one time. Iowa is the last place I ever thought something like this would happen.
On a side note I’m glad she was found, closure can be given to the family.
Curios as to what the police presser tonight will provide. LEO's and detectives have not given the media an inch of information on this, other than interviewing the local pig farmers.
I'm glad the investigation has not leaked to the media, I hope they catch the sob responsible.
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Did it up having anything to do with that pig farmer ?
As stated L E Os keepin a lid on the info. I REFUSE to speculate. I will say I had a bad feelin almost from the git go on this un. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 02:08:41 PM » |
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Hmmmmm. What was it Trump said???
But but but we need to abolish ICE remember. This pos has been in the US for 4-7 years? Sickening
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The worst news...I really feel for the family and all those who knew this young lady.
It won't matter how many criminal illegals are indicted/prosecuted for horrible crimes like this, the Democrats still want their open border policy as it is the only people they can count on to get them re-elected. They actively push for illegals to be able to vote, hand them drivers licenses, block voter ID rules/laws...etc...WTF is with these A-holes. Seems to me that all the Cities and States that have been run by Democrats for decades are S##t-Holes or heading in that direction in a real hurry. I have family in the Bay Area(Danville) California who are in complete denial about what is going on all around them...sad.
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WHY in the hell can't Any "news organization" say ILLEGAL ALIEN? When a worthless scum bag low life turd IS an ILLEGAL ALIEN do NOT under Any circumstances clean it up with the phrase-undocumented Anything!  Does Iowa have the death penalty? And I M H O-his execution date should NOT no how no way pass the 1 year anniversary date of Mollie Tibbets murder. While the senseless murder of this beautiful young lady angers me greatly the FACT of What the perp turned out to be surprises me not in the least. Like ANYONE thinkin being undocumented means anything more than a fart in a whirlwind. RIDE SAFE.
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May GOD forgive me but I feel as I could strangle him with my bare hands. RIDE SAFE.
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My major takeaway.... don't let your loved ones incapable of reliable self defense go running or biking or hiking or living in unsafe, unknown areas.... alone.
I carried a double stack nine (plus mags) in a shoulder rig to hike Sequoia National Park in the late 80's. They have (black) bears, and they were out there (we heard them), but the firearm was not for four legged predators, it was for two legged assholes.
I believe my ex could go through that perp like crap through a goose, but she is well trained, in top condition, and has a perpetual bad (and distrustful) attitude.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2018, 02:12:39 AM » |
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MY major takeaway,
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Send him to Hell with a load of pitch pine, as the fires in Hell are not hot enough.
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Send him to Hell with a load of pitch pine, as the fires in Hell are not hot enough.
You my also include his enablers.
Elizabeth Warren? Nancy Pelosi?
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2018, 05:09:04 AM » |
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Come on guys, cut them some slack. They are just representing their voters.
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Come on guys, cut them some slack. They are just representing their voters.
OK, I'll go as far to say that everyone that votes for these sorry excuses of humans we call democrat politicians are also the enablers. I couldn't agree more. I just wish more of them would get to "experience" the consequences of their poor choices.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2018, 05:45:39 AM » |
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Come on guys, cut them some slack. They are just representing their voters.
You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ?
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2018, 05:52:51 AM » |
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Come on guys, cut them some slack. They are just representing their voters.
You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ? And you do realize it was the democrats that throw a fit when we talk about sending these scum bags back to mexico? Or building a wall, or detaining them at the border. How many innocent AMERICANS are we going to let illegals kill before everyone opens their eyes to what is happening? How would you feel if this was your wife? your granddaughter? Or is it still about the women and children at the border, who cares if we let in some lunatic killers. That's the price we pay for helping the women and children? Open your eyes people none of them need let in illegally.
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Spin spin spin and there's no denying. Dems are the party FOR illegals. If the masses ever wake up and see that illegals are the huge huge problem they really are, not cuddly pets Dems will be in big trouble for a long time.
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Come on guys, cut them some slack. They are just representing their voters.
You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ? Then levy massive fines on him for doing so. Crippling fines. (Assuming he didn't run the worker through E-Verify first) And deport all illegals. And build the wall. I'm all in favor of a multi pronged approach.
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Come on guys, cut them some slack. They are just representing their voters.
You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ? Then levy massive fines on him for doing so. Crippling fines. (Assuming he didn't run the worker through E-Verify first) And deport all illegals. And build the wall. I'm all in favor of a multi pronged approach. Agreed, the point is, it’s a problem that has developed because of fault on ALL sides. As much as many here seem to think it’s caused by Democrats, they would be wrong.
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Come on guys, cut them some slack. They are just representing their voters.
You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ? Then levy massive fines on him for doing so. Crippling fines. (Assuming he didn't run the worker through E-Verify first) And deport all illegals. And build the wall. I'm all in favor of a multi pronged approach. Agreed, the point is, it’s a problem that has developed because of fault on ALL sides. As much as many here seem to think it’s caused by Democrats, they would be wrong. so republicans want a wall and to keep them out. Democrats want open borders. Tell me again who's fault it is..... Go ahead, tell me again with a straight face.
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]Agreed, the point is, it’s a problem that has developed because of fault on ALL sides. As much as many here seem to think it’s caused by Democrats, they would be wrong.
I kinda concur... The difference is the degrees. Mainstream Democrats want illegals for their votes. Swamp based Republicans want illegals for their cheap labor. The number of Republicans that are realizing the cheap labor isn't worth it are growing, the number of Democrats that realize the vote fraud isn't worth it is shrinking.
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I kinda concur... The difference is the degrees. Mainstream Democrats want illegals for their votes. Swamp based Republicans want illegals for their cheap labor. The number of Republicans that are realizing the cheap labor isn't worth it are growing, the number of Democrats that realize the vote fraud isn't worth it is shrinking. Can you point to evidence of illegals committing voter fraud in favor of Democrats ? I know I can show plenty of evidence of Republicans hiring them.
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Can you point to evidence of illegals committing voter fraud in favor of Democrats ? I know I can show plenty of evidence of Republicans hiring them.
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/non-citizens-registered-to-vote-in-texas-some-cast-ballots/287-586659115http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/01/names-non-us-citizens-increasingly-found-on-voter-rolls.htmlAnd beyond that, it appears to me the long term plan for Democrats is to normalize illegal aliens, get them integrated into society and sink their roots in deep, then grant amnesty and citizenship and boom, they've vastly expanded the size of their captive voter plantation. Edit - And although we're drifting further and further from the original discussion of a young lady who had her life snuffed out way too early, hiring illegals isn't a purely Republican pastime either... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nannygate
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And the spin spin spin had begun. She wasn't killed by a violent raping illegal alien, oh no... It was the patriarchy that did her in! Sheesh... How about we stop mass importation of people form cultures that don't respect women? Evil is evil, no matter what you call it.   
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And the spin spin spin had begun. She wasn't killed by a violent raping illegal alien, oh no... It was the patriarchy that did her in! Sheesh... How about we stop mass importation of people form cultures that don't respect women? Evil is evil, no matter what you call it.    I think we should deport these idiots also. So an illegal can't take no for an answer. Where did it start? At the freakin border when he crossed illegally you f-ing morons.
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You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ? He employed him after the E-Verify system said it was OK. A not very good vetting system that was started by the previous administration.
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You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ? He employed him after the E-Verify system said it was OK. A not very good vetting system that was started by the previous administration. Turns out he wasn't run through E-Verify. "However, the farm's owners said in a press conference later on Wednesday that the company had determined their ex-employee had used a false name to pass verification. They also explained that while they thought they were using E-Verify, they were actually using a different older system through the Social Security Administration. "Just within the last four hours we have come to learn that the Social Security Administration employment verification service is not the same as E-Verify," said Dane Lang, co-owner and manager of the farm. "We're signing up for e-verification, and we intend to fully vet everyone through the E-Verify system."" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/farm-worker-charged-in-mollie-tibbetts-death-didnt-go-through-e-verify/
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You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ? He employed him after the E-Verify system said it was OK. A not very good vetting system that was started by the previous administration. Turns out he wasn't run through E-Verify. "However, the farm's owners said in a press conference later on Wednesday that the company had determined their ex-employee had used a false name to pass verification. They also explained that while they thought they were using E-Verify, they were actually using a different older system through the Social Security Administration. "Just within the last four hours we have come to learn that the Social Security Administration employment verification service is not the same as E-Verify," said Dane Lang, co-owner and manager of the farm. "We're signing up for e-verification, and we intend to fully vet everyone through the E-Verify system."" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/farm-worker-charged-in-mollie-tibbetts-death-didnt-go-through-e-verify/This is a multi-million dollar corporation. They knew they weren’t using E-verify. They did it for a reason, to employ illegals at cheap rates.
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They aren't the only large farm in Iowa hiring illegal aliens either. I think this particular case will open up a can a worms on the larger farms across the corn belt.
By large I mean anything over 2,000 acres of tillable ground. Anything less than 2K can typically be maintained by family (depending on how many members of the family there are)
I haven't seen any autopsy analysis yet, has it been confirmed she was sexually assaulted before death?
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How much was he being paid?
Let’s forget about all the spin and the blame game. How about action that results in the US having enforceable secure borders? How about allowing ICE to clean house? How about employing some common sense?
If this guy had been discovered a month before he killed Mollie, a guy here illegally for seven years with no criminal record, what would have been the outcome of his status? How many more guys like him are out there looking for a crime of opportunity?
Our elected officials have failed us on immigration and we have plenty of evidence of the consequences of their failure. Our outrage should be focused at them.
And by all means, let’s make criminals out of business people trying to do what they do, providing jobs and paying taxes.
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They aren't the only large farm in Iowa hiring illegal aliens either. I think this particular case will open up a can a worms on the larger farms across the corn belt.
By large I mean anything over 2,000 acres of tillable ground. Anything less than 2K can typically be maintained by family (depending on how many members of the family there are)
I haven't seen any autopsy analysis yet, has it been confirmed she was sexually assaulted before death?
It’s not confined to farms by any means. It’s been happening all over the country in just about all walks of life.
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You do realize it was a prominent Republican businessman who employed the illegal for 4 years ? He employed him after the E-Verify system said it was OK. A not very good vetting system that was started by the previous administration. Turns out he wasn't run through E-Verify. "However, the farm's owners said in a press conference later on Wednesday that the company had determined their ex-employee had used a false name to pass verification. They also explained that while they thought they were using E-Verify, they were actually using a different older system through the Social Security Administration. "Just within the last four hours we have come to learn that the Social Security Administration employment verification service is not the same as E-Verify," said Dane Lang, co-owner and manager of the farm. "We're signing up for e-verification, and we intend to fully vet everyone through the E-Verify system."" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/farm-worker-charged-in-mollie-tibbetts-death-didnt-go-through-e-verify/This is a multi-million dollar corporation. They knew they weren’t using E-verify. They did it for a reason, to employ illegals at cheap rates. you keep bring up cheap rates (labor) What exactly was the dollar amount per hour he was being paid? or is this just an assumption?
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I say, yes let’s make criminals of them. If not for them there would be a hell of a lot less illlegals. They made criminals of themselves when the knowingly broke and skirted the laws.
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I say, yes let’s make criminals of them. If not for them there would be a hell of a lot less illlegals. They made criminals of themselves when the knowingly broke and skirted the laws. Exactly what I thought your attitude would be. I submit there would be just as many illegals, just more crime because they couldn’t find work, or more welfare for illegals because they can’t work. I also notice you are very selective in what you choose to reply .
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