InZane XIX... location and dates...

[msb]

Well, the Mrs is in so all things going normal we will be in Taos next June. Since we've never been to that region before or several other places along the way further South we've always wanted to see, we'll look to make this into a nice 2 - 3 week tour. Will be fun during the Winter months doing some research into things we want to see and do. Love the fact that it looks to be something totally different than what we're used to for the most part. Thank you staff for the selection, and for the early notice

[Skinhead]

Thanks Staff, good choice.  Romeo and I were discussing yesterday that it sounds like a good opportunity to ride old route 66 out, and maybe complete the remainder of the route after Inzane.  

[Jess from VA]

From what I've read, the intersection of CO/AZ/UT/NM was originally decreed to be where the 37th parallel crossed the 109th meridian.  A survey was performed in the 1800s that missed the location by about 1800 feet.  Actually that was very good considering the technology that was available back then.

I believe the 4 states have accepted the old survey boundaries as their legal borders, even though they aren't precisely at 37N 109W.  Apparently this is common.  When land is surveyed, corner markers are often not placed in precisely accurate locations, but the owners accept them as the legal boundaries.

This stuff is more fluid than I thought.  I recently learned that magnetic north moves around so much that airport runways at northern latitudes are often renumbered.

You go (way) back in history and look at all the border disputes between States, you discover they only fight over land that is worth something.  We in Michigan lost the bottom strip of our state (including Toledo) to OH, and in return got the Upper Peninsula.  It turned out to be a good deal, but back in the day, with no bridge, Michigan folks felt like they had been given a piece of the moon.

Of course the Four Corners area is worthless dirt.  Ergo, no disputes.   

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Well, the Mrs is in so all things going normal we will be in Taos next June. Since we've never been to that region before or several other places along the way further South we've always wanted to see, we'll look to make this into a nice 2 - 3 week tour. Will be fun during the Winter months doing some research into things we want to see and do. Love the fact that it looks to be something totally different than what we're used to for the most part. Thank you staff for the selection, and for the early notice

Turquoise Trail. Town of Madrid where part of movie Wild Hogs was filmed.

Scandia Peak tramway.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Thanks Staff, good choice.  Romeo and I were discussing yesterday that it sounds like a good opportunity to ride old route 66 out, and maybe complete the remainder of the route after Inzane.  

I don't want to deter you guys from completing Route 66. But keep in mind it's going to be brutally hot west of Taos at that time.

[3fan4life]

According to Google maps the marker does not sit exactly where the state lines intersect.

But they do intersect on the monument itself.

[Serk]

We're getting off in the weeds a bit, but the Supreme Court ruled in "New Mexico v. Colorado" in 1925 that regardless of anything else, the monument is indeed the actual point of the convergence of the 4 states.

[motomama]

269 miles.  An easy day ride!  I could be a vendor with my smaller products, ride AND pull my HF trailer like last year, but then I give up the rides and fun stuff manning a table.  I don't NEED the money, while it would be helpful to y'all - but you can always order from me online and get stuff shipped.  Certainly selling there is a good idea as folks can see and handle the products and impulse-buy but then Inzane becomes WORK for me.  Dirty word.  Plus if wifey comes she will want to ride, not have me stuck in a booth.  Hmm.

I don't wanna speak for staff, but maybe see if they'd put your stuff on the general merchandise table and handle sales for you some of the time?

Or maybe work something out with another vendor (Hi Darksider!) to trade off watching each other's stuff on alternate days or hours?

Just some thoughts...

As the number of vendors we have gets lower as our bikes get older we might have to get creative about such things.

The staff has a lot to do and is unable to handle sales for anyone else. We also prefer that each vendor has their own booth.  We have had vendors that have a booth and post the hours they will be available.  That is always an option.

[baldo]

According to Google maps the marker does not sit exactly where the state lines intersect.

But they do intersect on the monument itself.

Now for the OCD amongst us, that bugs me...Quite a bit, actually. 

[Serk]

The staff has a lot to do and is unable to handle sales for anyone else. We also prefer that each vendor has their own booth.  We have had vendors that have a booth and post the hours they will be available.  That is always an option.

Gotcha and makes sense... Was just tossing out ideas, but I understand completely...

[fudgie]

Thanks Staff, good choice.  Romeo and I were discussing yesterday that it sounds like a good opportunity to ride old route 66 out, and maybe complete the remainder of the route after Inzane.  

I don't want to deter you guys from completing Route 66. But keep in mind it's going to be brutally hot west of Taos at that time.

Brutal hot in June? Not sure what you call it in Aug as we crossed the entire Navajo Rez at 105 deg. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Thanks Staff, good choice.  Romeo and I were discussing yesterday that it sounds like a good opportunity to ride old route 66 out, and maybe complete the remainder of the route after Inzane.  

I don't want to deter you guys from completing Route 66. But keep in mind it's going to be brutally hot west of Taos at that time.

Brutal hot in June? Not sure what you call it in Aug as we crossed the entire Navajo Rez at 105 deg. 

It won't be much different in June. Maybe up to 115 across the Mojave . It's doable, but rough.

[Wizzard]

8 years ago I rode across the Mojave in July and it was 114. Had a long sleeve white shirt on and drank plenty of water. It was not that bad to me.

[flamingobabe #44]

woohoo....we are in...see y'all in June

[f6gal]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic... don't worry, we've scouted routes to bypass downtown traffic!   

[Serk]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic... don't worry, we've scouted routes to bypass downtown traffic!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874ZbBlO87w

[f6gal]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic... don't worry, we've scouted routes to bypass downtown traffic!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874ZbBlO87w

There you go, giving away the secret.

[The emperor has no clothes]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic... don't worry, we've scouted routes to bypass downtown traffic!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874ZbBlO87w

There you go, giving away the secret.

Do you have enough flux capacitors on hand ?

[Disco]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic...

Now that's funny.      The 2016 population of Taos was 5,763.  How much traffic can there possibly be?

[The emperor has no clothes]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic...

Now that's funny.      The 2016 population of Taos was 5,763.  How much traffic can there possibly be?

The population may be 5,763, but the tourist influx is pretty big.

[Serk]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic...

Now that's funny.      The 2016 population of Taos was 5,763.  How much traffic can there possibly be?

Taos is kinda notorious for horrible traffic, in the downtown area... Personally, I don't plan on spending much time in that area, hotel, places to eat around it, and outta town mostly for me...

[The emperor has no clothes]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic...

Now that's funny.      The 2016 population of Taos was 5,763.  How much traffic can there possibly be?

Taos is kinda notorious for horrible traffic, in the downtown area... Personally, I don't plan on spending much time in that area, hotel, places to eat around it, and outta town mostly for me...

It's pretty much artsy/fartsy overpriced stuff down there anyway.

[bill-jr]

Turquoise trail would be a goodlunch ride . . .
That carson state park was a beautful ride 64 to 84 to pagosta springs colorado. .
Some nice little shops in that town too . . .  

[Daniel Meyer]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic... don't worry, we've scouted routes to bypass downtown traffic!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874ZbBlO87w

There you go, giving away the secret.

Do you have enough flux capacitors on hand ?

They are stock on "fast-black" Valks. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic... don't worry, we've scouted routes to bypass downtown traffic!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=874ZbBlO87w

There you go, giving away the secret.

Do you have enough flux capacitors on hand ?

They are stock on "fast-black" Valks. 

[f6gal]

[John Schmidt]

Beautiful picture Connie, was that taken during one of your scouting trips or is it a copy?

Just noticed the snow! Duh! 

[baldo]

Do you have enough flux capacitors on hand ?

This was a local news report of a plane crash a couple of weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6aclrHYTh8

https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/boston-news-flux-capacitor-plane-crash

[f6gal]

Beautiful picture Connie, was that taken during one of your scouting trips or is it a copy?

Just noticed the snow! Duh!  

Yep, I stole the pic from the web.  But we did scout this road while there.  Is was a nice 80°... no snow in site.

[robin]

Thanks Staff, good choice.  Romeo and I were discussing yesterday that it sounds like a good opportunity to ride old route 66 out, and maybe complete the remainder of the route after Inzane.  

Joe, i just did 66 from Chicago to Santa Monica with a group and did every part you could and then some was a great trip with lots of interesting things to see that you wouldn't know to see if we weren't with this rally look it up it called "the mother road ride rally "  (http://www.ridert66.com/)

[..]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic...

Now that's funny.      The 2016 population of Taos was 5,763.  How much traffic can there possibly be?

Tourists blinkering, dawdling and dithering.

[3fan4life]

Do you have enough flux capacitors on hand ?

This was a local news report of a plane crash a couple of weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6aclrHYTh8

https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/boston-news-flux-capacitor-plane-crash

I can see the pilot being irritated with the reporter and telling her that his Flux Capacitor failed. 

[Skinhead]

Thanks Staff, good choice.  Romeo and I were discussing yesterday that it sounds like a good opportunity to ride old route 66 out, and maybe complete the remainder of the route after Inzane. 

Joe, i just did 66 from Chicago to Santa Monica with a group and did every part you could and then some was a great trip with lots of interesting things to see that you wouldn't know to see if we weren't with this rally look it up it called "the mother road ride rally "  (http://www.ridert66.com/)

Thanks Robin.

[Gryphon Rider]

At least when someone ride off the road there, it'll be fairly easy for his rescuers to find him. 

[MarkT]

269 miles.  An easy day ride!  I could be a vendor with my smaller products, ride AND pull my HF trailer like last year, but then I give up the rides and fun stuff manning a table.  I don't NEED the money, while it would be helpful to y'all - but you can always order from me online and get stuff shipped.  Certainly selling there is a good idea as folks can see and handle the products and impulse-buy but then Inzane becomes WORK for me.  Dirty word.  Plus if wifey comes she will want to ride, not have me stuck in a booth.  Hmm.

I don't wanna speak for staff, but maybe see if they'd put your stuff on the general merchandise table and handle sales for you some of the time?

Or maybe work something out with another vendor (Hi Darksider!) to trade off watching each other's stuff on alternate days or hours?

Just some thoughts...

As the number of vendors we have gets lower as our bikes get older we might have to get creative about such things.

The staff has a lot to do and is unable to handle sales for anyone else. We also prefer that each vendor has their own booth.  We have had vendors that have a booth and post the hours they will be available.  That is always an option.

Note this suggestion was not mine though the response seems to be aimed at me (and others).   I'm thinking you're OK with my donating for your drawings ($268 at retail at Roanoke, took me 2 days to make them) which generates revenue for the club selling the tickets - but I'm not saying it's one way - I appreciate (and expect) the exposure those donations and your source announcements while giving them away, provide.  It's a quid pro quo thing.  I haven't decided what I'll do at Taos. Might depend on my review of the rides available; if I want to focus on them, or spend some time around GZ.  The wife will want the rides.

[Bighead]

FYI:  If anyone is concerned about Taos traffic...

Now that's funny.      The 2016 population of Taos was 5,763.  How much traffic can there possibly be?

Tourists blinkering, dawdling and dithering.

But with the town being so small it is still not a bug deal.just stay out of the "downtown"'area which is about 532 square feet. And all is good. I have visited the town 3 yrs in a row and love the area. Just wish I could make this with the flight of all the valkyries. But it wont happen for me,unless my boss changes his yearly beach trip by a week

[Rams]

Been thinking about this location for an INZANE.  Let me state unequivocally, I love attending this event.
While I agree it's a got some attractive points of interest. I question the choice of locations.

Based on my very limited knowledge and asking a few questions, it seems like INZANE has never been a huge draw for West Coasters.   And, this location is a long journey for all east of the Mississippi River.   Hopefully I'm wrong but I don't see a big attendance at this event.    Less attendance means less interest in the organization as a whole.   The average rider is getting older and most are financially limited.    I hope I'm wrong but, I'm being honest.   There will always be those who will go wherever.  Just not as many as there used to be.....

I know for myself, several things will need to fall into place for me to attend.   Discussing this with several of my normal Inzane attending friends, most are telling me the travel time to and from will either limit the time they can be there or keep them from attending.   Some have told me outright that they have no desire to ride through the desert.     I'm also not knocking the decision makers but, declining numbers will tell the tale.

I won't say I'm not coming, I'll be there if I can but, i have my doubts.    Just my opinion.  I know, I won't be missed by .......

Rams

[motomama]

269 miles.  An easy day ride!  I could be a vendor with my smaller products, ride AND pull my HF trailer like last year, but then I give up the rides and fun stuff manning a table.  I don't NEED the money, while it would be helpful to y'all - but you can always order from me online and get stuff shipped.  Certainly selling there is a good idea as folks can see and handle the products and impulse-buy but then Inzane becomes WORK for me.  Dirty word.  Plus if wifey comes she will want to ride, not have me stuck in a booth.  Hmm.

I don't wanna speak for staff, but maybe see if they'd put your stuff on the general merchandise table and handle sales for you some of the time?

Or maybe work something out with another vendor (Hi Darksider!) to trade off watching each other's stuff on alternate days or hours?

Just some thoughts...

As the number of vendors we have gets lower as our bikes get older we might have to get creative about such things.

The staff has a lot to do and is unable to handle sales for anyone else. We also prefer that each vendor has their own booth.  We have had vendors that have a booth and post the hours they will be available.  That is always an option.

Note this suggestion was not mine though the response seems to be aimed at me (and others).   I'm thinking you're OK with my donating for your drawings ($268 at retail at Roanoke, took me 2 days to make them) which generates revenue for the club selling the tickets - but I'm not saying it's one way - I appreciate (and expect) the exposure those donations and your source announcements while giving them away, provide.  It's a quid pro quo thing.  I haven't decided what I'll do at Taos. Might depend on my review of the rides available; if I want to focus on them, or spend some time around GZ.  The wife will want the rides.

NOTE...the quote and the response.  The quote was in response to the original poster and his comment.  Nothing was directed specifically toward you.  Mark, you just do what you want to do as I will not be arguing this point with you!  This is how it has always been handled.  Nothing has changed.  Thank you.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Been thinking about this location for an INZANE.  Let me state unequivocally, I love attending this event.
While I agree it's a got some attractive points of interest. I question the choice of locations.

Based on my very limited knowledge and asking a few questions, it seems like INZANE has never been a huge draw for West Coasters.   And, this location is a long journey for all east of the Mississippi River.   Hopefully I'm wrong but I don't see a big attendance at this event.    Less attendance means less interest in the organization as a whole.   The average rider is getting older and most are financially limited.    I hope I'm wrong but, I'm being honest.   There will always be those who will go wherever.  Just not as many as there used to be.....

I know for myself, several things will need to fall into place for me to attend.   Discussing this with several of my normal Inzane attending friends, most are telling me the travel time to and from will either limit the time they can be there or keep them from attending.   Some have told me outright that they have no desire to ride through the desert.     I'm also not knocking the decision makers but, declining numbers will tell the tale.

I won't say I'm not coming, I'll be there if I can but, i have my doubts.    Just my opinion.  I know, I won't be missed by .......

Rams

I think you have several things wrong. If I remember correctly from Connies post of attendance figures, the first Frisco Inzane was the largest. The Spearfish and Billings were well attended also. There are factors for all to be able to attend. Young and old, retired and working, well off and just scraping by. I have no doubt more members live closer to the East coast, and it would be easier for many to be close to home. The best things in life aren't always the easy things. I think throwing cold water on the event is doing a disservice to the thankless work they have done and will be doing.

[Rams]

Been thinking about this location for an INZANE.  Let me state unequivocally, I love attending this event.
While I agree it's a got some attractive points of interest. I question the choice of locations.

Based on my very limited knowledge and asking a few questions, it seems like INZANE has never been a huge draw for West Coasters.   And, this location is a long journey for all east of the Mississippi River.   Hopefully I'm wrong but I don't see a big attendance at this event.    Less attendance means less interest in the organization as a whole.   The average rider is getting older and most are financially limited.    I hope I'm wrong but, I'm being honest.   There will always be those who will go wherever.  Just not as many as there used to be.....

I know for myself, several things will need to fall into place for me to attend.   Discussing this with several of my normal Inzane attending friends, most are telling me the travel time to and from will either limit the time they can be there or keep them from attending.   Some have told me outright that they have no desire to ride through the desert.     I'm also not knocking the decision makers but, declining numbers will tell the tale.

I won't say I'm not coming, I'll be there if I can but, i have my doubts.    Just my opinion.  I know, I won't be missed by .......

Rams

I think you have several things wrong.

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I think throwing cold water on the event is doing a disservice to the thankless work they have done and will be doing.

Whether or not I am wrong is yet to be seen.   The numbers will tell the tale.

Cold water?  Ok, making good decisions usually means considering other opinions.   Call it what you will.

Rams