When is it ok

[The emperor has no clothes]

to punch women in the face ?

A comment was made recently that I’ve been wondering about. Is there ever a circumstance where you can contemplate punching a woman in the face for something they said ? I’ve not been able to come up with a situation. Is there any you would consider ?

[Willow]

No.

[Dave Ritsema]

No.

X2

[Pete]

NO

[RP#62]

Well, since you've left it wide open, if she's an ISIS member and is holding an infant and that she says is an infidel and must be executed, and then starts to, I'd say a punch is warranted  (that is if you can't reach your gun in time).

-RP

[Gryphon Rider]

When doing so will prevent the imminent certainty that she will injure or kill an innocent person, and other, less injurious, methods of prevention are not available.

[Wizzard]

I don't even ponder stuff like that. I let better things occupy my brain. Like Motorcycles. 

[Bigwolf]

Never for something they said!

But my answer is different if she is trying to harm and has the ability to do so.  I believe the “ability” is the major factor here with intent running second.

Yes, I have met a few women that desperately needed to be knocked out cold and maybe locked up for an indefinite period.  But thankfully, such women are far from the norm.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Well, since you've left it wide open, if she's an ISIS member and is holding an infant and that she says is an infidel and must be executed, and then starts to, I'd say a punch is warranted  (that is if you can't reach your gun in time).

-RP

That would qualify. But holding and threatening an infant could be considered an action versus saying something. But in the strictest sense, I think that would be a circumstance that I could envision a punch or a tackle. 

[RP#62]

Well, since you've left it wide open, if she's an ISIS member and is holding an infant and that she says is an infidel and must be executed, and then starts to, I'd say a punch is warranted  (that is if you can't reach your gun in time).

-RP

That would qualify. But holding and threatening an infant could be considered an action versus saying something. But in the strictest sense, I think that would be a circumstance that I could envision a punch or a tackle. 

Heard a comedian the other day saying that you know how you hear that there's never a reason to punch a woman.  He said that actually, that's not true.  There are several reasons to punch a woman - I can name 5 right off the top of my head.  You just don't act on it.

-RP

[The emperor has no clothes]

Well, since you've left it wide open, if she's an ISIS member and is holding an infant and that she says is an infidel and must be executed, and then starts to, I'd say a punch is warranted  (that is if you can't reach your gun in time).

-RP

That would qualify. But holding and threatening an infant could be considered an action versus saying something. But in the strictest sense, I think that would be a circumstance that I could envision a punch or a tackle. 

Heard a comedian the other day saying that you know how you hear that there's never a reason to punch a woman.  He said that actually, that's not true.  There are several reasons to punch a woman - I can name 5 right off the top of my head.  You just don't act on it.

-RP

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to punch women in the face ?

A comment was made recently that I’ve been wondering about. Is there ever a circumstance where you can contemplate punching a woman in the face for something they said ? I’ve not been able to come up with a situation. Is there any you would consider ?

What was the comment?

Where was it made?

[The emperor has no clothes]

to punch women in the face ?

A comment was made recently that I’ve been wondering about. Is there ever a circumstance where you can contemplate punching a woman in the face for something they said ? I’ve not been able to come up with a situation. Is there any you would consider ?

What was the comment?

Where was it made?

I'd prefer not to get a poopstorm brewing, so no need to go any further on that. It just got me thinking if there was EVER a situation where it would be warranted. I couldn't come up with anything.

[Jess from VA]

Here you go.  They actually sign up to get punched in the face (for fame and for money).  They kick too (somewhat harder than a punch)











You'll notice, in MMA unlike boxing, you keep hitting till the ref calls the fight.  There's no automatic time out, just because they are relaxing on their back.

There's a pretty narrow window where you can lawfully punch a man or a woman for words alone. Those words better reasonably lead the average person to believe a punch is necessary to defend oneself or others against immediate harm.  The principle consideration between men and women is that one always looks at the relative size, weight, age, power and strength of the competing parties.... so it's really an uphill deal for a male to punch a female.... unless you're 4'11'' and 90 lbs, and she's Ronda Rousey.  

Better make your first one count.


  

[Gavin_Sons]

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Reply #55

You're welcome 

[carolinarider09]

Resorting to violence for the spoken word is not acceptable, man, women or child.

I was raised in the south.  I am 72 and I still say “Yes Sir” and “Yes Ma’am”.  I open the door for a lady.  I walk on the street side of the sidewalk when walking with a lady (or child).

Those things are engrained.  I am far from perfect.  I make mistakes and try to atone for them.  But I always fall short.  I know that. 

Civility is rapidly deteriorating in parts of our society.  That must change.  The change must start with me, with us. 

Over the last couple of days I have thought about things I have read and heard.  Two things came to mind.

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”  And a second one.

“We have all sinned and fallen short”.  We should remember words like that.

[MAD6Gun]

to punch women in the face ?

A comment was made recently that I’ve been wondering about. Is there ever a circumstance where you can contemplate punching a woman in the face for something they said ? I’ve not been able to come up with a situation. Is there any you would consider ?

What was the comment?

Where was it made?

I'd prefer not to get a poopstorm brewing, so no need to go any further on that. It just got me thinking if there was EVER a situation where it would be warranted. I couldn't come up with anything.

 You did by starting this thread but when does that ever stop you. I am pretty sure you can take what Gavin said with a grain of salt. I don't think he was serious.

 To answer your question. NO. There is never any reason to hit a woman. Any man that would is not a man.

[f6john]

When is it ok to punch a man in the face for something he says?

[Gavin_Sons]

to punch women in the face ?

A comment was made recently that I’ve been wondering about. Is there ever a circumstance where you can contemplate punching a woman in the face for something they said ? I’ve not been able to come up with a situation. Is there any you would consider ?

What was the comment?

Where was it made?

I'd prefer not to get a poopstorm brewing, so no need to go any further on that. It just got me thinking if there was EVER a situation where it would be warranted. I couldn't come up with anything.

 You did by starting this thread but when does that ever stop you. I am pretty sure you can take what Gavin said with a grain of salt. I don't think he was serious.

 To answer your question. NO. There is never any reason to hit a woman. Any man that would is not a man.

Just for the record I dont think any woman deserves to be punched unless.... these were stated earlier in this thread. And also just for the record, it pleases me that I said something that caused you to think about me so much. Better be careful, I'll expect dinner and drinks if this keeps up.    

[MAD6Gun]

to punch women in the face ?

A comment was made recently that I’ve been wondering about. Is there ever a circumstance where you can contemplate punching a woman in the face for something they said ? I’ve not been able to come up with a situation. Is there any you would consider ?

What was the comment?

Where was it made?

I'd prefer not to get a poopstorm brewing, so no need to go any further on that. It just got me thinking if there was EVER a situation where it would be warranted. I couldn't come up with anything.

 You did by starting this thread but when does that ever stop you. I am pretty sure you can take what Gavin said with a grain of salt. I don't think he was serious.

 To answer your question. NO. There is never any reason to hit a woman. Any man that would is not a man.

Just for the record I dont think any woman deserves to be punched unless.... these were stated earlier in this thread. And also just for the record, it pleases me that I said something that caused you to think about me so much. Better be careful, I'll expect dinner and drinks if this keeps up.    

 That's funny Gavin. Baldo said the same thing about me in another thread. I told him no thanks and that he and MH would always have each other....lol...

[John Schmidt]

Another thought: Never spit in a woman's face.....unless her mustache is on fire.  

Sorry but sometimes I can't take a subject serious, but probably should at times.

[DIGGER]

What if you got into an argument with a woman you didn't know and she punched you right in the mouth....you guys saying you wouldn't hit back?  Just for the record I'VE never hit a woman.   Been married to my wife 45 yrs this November.  She laughs and tells the story that I hit her once but I didn't hit her I put my hand in her face and took her over gently to the ground so I could take my Browning A5 12 GA shotgun away from her as she was headed out the door to kill the two neighbors dog in our yard after they had killed her cat.  Ha

[Jess from VA]

Good story Digger.  I completely believe it.  

For many years we had bad trouble with the next door juvenile delinquents.

I came home from work one day to find my wife stalking one with her Glock 22 (duty weapon).  He had just thrown a freshly used condom in her face.  He absolutely needed killing (for this and many other reasons), but I had to put a stop to it, for her sake (not his).  I did not do a take down (she was obviously highly agitated so that would have been a bad idea), but I did insist she come in the house and talk about it, then she could go back out and kill him if she wanted to.  I talked her down.  But it was no sure thing.

Later, when the menopause hit, I was sure I would get a pillow over the face and a double tap to the head in my sleep, but didn't (but that was no sure thing either).  And I never struck her ever (are you crazy?)

I always thought I had a bad temper, but I was a novice compared to her.    

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Reply #55

You're welcome 

Oh, that.

Sheesh.

[Gavin_Sons]

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,103244.40.html

Reply #55

You're welcome 

Oh, that.

Sheesh.

And do we know for a fact that Feinstein is actually a woman?

[Psychotic Bovine]

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,103244.40.html

Reply #55

You're welcome  

Oh, that.

Sheesh.

And do we know for a fact that Feinstein is actually a woman?

Feinstein is Finkle, Finkle is Feinstein!

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http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,103244.40.html

Reply #55

You're welcome 

Oh, that.

Sheesh.

And do we know for a fact that Feinstein is actually a woman?

I'm not standing in line to check.

[Serk]

And do we know for a fact that Feinstein is actually a woman?

This does bring up an interesting quandary to the equation - With the current liberal mantra of "Trans women ARE women", insisting that any dude that claims to be a chick should be treated in every was as a woman; do the same social courtesies and protections that we as men apply to women apply to dudes in dresses?

[Psychotic Bovine]

And do we know for a fact that Feinstein is actually a woman?

This does bring up an interesting quandary to the equation - With the current liberal mantra of "Trans women ARE women", insisting that any dude that claims to be a chick should be treated in every was as a woman; do the same social courtesies and protections that we as men apply to women apply to dudes in dresses?

That is certainly a quandary.
Bradley Manning comes to mind.
I did watch a very interesting video that claimed to have concrete proof that Michele Obama was, in fact, of the male persuasion.  It certainly made the case better than Ms Ford's accusation.

[Willow]

This does bring up an interesting quandary to the equation - With the current liberal mantra of "Trans women ARE women", insisting that any dude that claims to be a chick should be treated in every was as a woman; do the same social courtesies and protections that we as men apply to women apply to dudes in dresses? 

No quandry for me.  Sometimes it's good to not be a libertarian.  As a conservative I live within certain rules.  I know the difference between men and women.  Just because someone claims to be a cow doesn't make him a cow.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I saw a video that showed evidence Melania was an Alien from far past Jupiter. According to the overwhelming evidence she has “mind melded” with Donald to take over our planet. I’m sure it’s true.  

[Psychotic Bovine]

This does bring up an interesting quandary to the equation - With the current liberal mantra of "Trans women ARE women", insisting that any dude that claims to be a chick should be treated in every was as a woman; do the same social courtesies and protections that we as men apply to women apply to dudes in dresses? 

No quandry for me.  Sometimes it's good to not be a libertarian.  As a conservative I live within certain rules.  I know the difference between men and women.  Just because someone claims to be a cow doesn't make him a cow.

Moo?

[Psychotic Bovine]

I saw a video that showed evidence Melania was an Alien from far past Jupiter. According to the overwhelming evidence she has “mind melded” with Donald to take over our planet. I’m sure it’s true.  

The funny thing is, MH, there is actually a video about Michele Obama, it's trying to be all serious.  I don't believe one bit of it, which is what I was saying when I said it had more credibility than Ms Ford's claims.
Sarcasm:  Learn to recognize the signs.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I saw a video that showed evidence Melania was an Alien from far past Jupiter. According to the overwhelming evidence she has “mind melded” with Donald to take over our planet. I’m sure it’s true.  

The funny thing is, MH, there is actually a video about Michele Obama, it's trying to be all serious.  I don't believe one bit of it, which is what I was saying when I said it had more credibility than Ms Ford's claims.
Sarcasm:  Learn to recognize the signs.

Conspiracy theories abound. Learn to recognize the signs. 

[Psychotic Bovine]

I saw a video that showed evidence Melania was an Alien from far past Jupiter. According to the overwhelming evidence she has “mind melded” with Donald to take over our planet. I’m sure it’s true.  

The funny thing is, MH, there is actually a video about Michele Obama, it's trying to be all serious.  I don't believe one bit of it, which is what I was saying when I said it had more credibility than Ms Ford's claims.
Sarcasm:  Learn to recognize the signs.

Conspiracy theories abound. Learn to recognize the signs. 

I assume you aren't talking to me; if you are, your responses to my comments don't make any sense at all in this context.  Just please stop.

[f6john]

I saw a video that showed evidence Melania was an Alien from far past Jupiter. According to the overwhelming evidence she has “mind melded” with Donald to take over our planet. I’m sure it’s true.  

The funny thing is, MH, there is actually a video about Michele Obama, it's trying to be all serious.  I don't believe one bit of it, which is what I was saying when I said it had more credibility than Ms Ford's claims.
Sarcasm:  Learn to recognize the signs.

Conspiracy theories abound. Learn to recognize the signs. 

I would love your insight on the “conspiracy theory” that there are people in high places within the current bureaucracy that is consciously and vigorously attempting to undermine the current administration. I’m sure I am no where near as good as you recognizing the signs.

[Gryphon Rider]

Regarding striking someone for some insult or slanderous statement, there are always wiser ways to handle the situation.  If nothing else, remember that eventually justice will prevail; Jesus said, "But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment." (Matthew 12:36, NASB)

[The emperor has no clothes]

Regarding striking someone for some insult or slanderous statement, there are always wiser ways to handle the situation.  If nothing else, remember that eventually justice will prevail; Jesus said, "But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment." (Matthew 12:36, NASB)

I’m sure you are correct. Someone earlier asked when is it ok to punch a man for something said ? Probably never. But, I don’t know if I would be able to walk away if someone was insulting my wife or grandkids. I hope I would, but I’m not nearly as sure as I am about punching a woman.

[Gavin_Sons]

Regarding striking someone for some insult or slanderous statement, there are always wiser ways to handle the situation.  If nothing else, remember that eventually justice will prevail; Jesus said, "But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment." (Matthew 12:36, NASB)

I’m sure you are correct. Someone earlier asked when is it ok to punch a man for something said ? Probably never. But, I don’t know if I would be able to walk away if someone was insulting my wife or grandkids. I hope I would, but I’m not nearly as sure as I am about punching a woman.

What if a woman was insulting your wife or grandkids? You are quick to judge people on what they say but probably the first to act out of line. 

[scooperhsd]

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."

That said - you start making moves or have actually / tried to physically hurt me - there is no men or women - only targets and non-targets. Fortunately, it has never come down to that - you treat me civil, I treat you civil.