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Author Topic: Yes we can, we have rights, we're just migrants.  (Read 564 times)
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« on: October 15, 2018, 07:19:07 PM »

Enough already;

ESQUIPULAS, Guatemala (AP) Hundreds of Honduran migrants surged over the Guatemalan border under a broiling sun Monday hoping to make it to new lives in the United States, far from the poverty and violence of their home nation.

Police stopped the migrants at a roadblock outside Esquipulas for several hours in the afternoon, but the travelers refused to return to the border and were eventually allowed to pass.

They arrived in town as night fell, exhausted by the day's heat, hobbling on blistered feet. Few carried food and some local residents began to organize to help feed them. Some migrants asked for money, others passing a bakery were handed bread.

Earlier in the day, the migrants arrived at the Guatemalan border singing the Honduran national anthem, praying and chanting, "Yes, we can." The group estimated at 1,600 or more defied an order by the Guatemalan government that they not be allowed to pass.

"We have rights," the migrants shouted.

Keilin Umana, a 21-year-old who is two months pregnant, said she was moved to migrate to save herself and her unborn child after she was threatened with death.

Umana, a nurse, said she had been walking for four days. "We are not criminals we are migrants," she said.

Many in the caravan traveled light, with just backpacks and bottles of water. Some pushed toddlers in strollers or carried them on their shoulders.

Carlos Cortez, a 32-year-old farmer traveling on foot with his 7-year-old son, said poverty back home made it impossible to support a family.

"Every day I earn about $5," Cortez said. "That isn't enough to feed my family."

The caravan was met at the border by about 100 Guatemalan police officers. After a standoff of about two hours, the migrants began walking again. Outnumbered, the police did nothing to stop them and accompanied them several miles (kilometers) into Guatemalan territory.

Officers then set up the roadblock about a mile (2 kilometers) outside the city of Esquipulas, where the migrants had planned to spend the night.

The migrants were stuck for about three hours. About 250 police kept them from advancing and told them they had to return to the border to go through immigration. The migrants refused to budge and it appeared they would likely sleep on the highway. But eventually officers let them pass.

Some police and Guatemalan civilians offered the migrants water, and some locals drove Hondurans part of the way. Red Cross workers gave medical attention to some migrants who fainted in the heat.

The caravan began as about 160 people who first gathered early Friday to depart from San Pedro Sula, one of Honduras' most dangerous places, figuring that traveling as a group would make them less vulnerable to robbery, assault and other dangers common on the migratory path through Central America and Mexico.

Local media coverage prompted hundreds more to join, and Dunia Montoya, a volunteer assisting the migrants, estimated Sunday that the group had grown to at least 1,600 people. Police gave their own estimate of around 2,000 on Monday.

The caravan formed a day after U.S. Vice President Mike Pence urged the presidents of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala to persuade their citizens to stay home and not put their families in danger by undertaking the risky journey to the United States.

In April, President Donald Trump threatened in April to withdraw foreign aid from Honduras and countries that allowed transit for a similar caravan that set out from the Central American country. That caravan dwindled as the group approached the U.S. border, with some giving up along the way and others splitting off to try to cross on their own.

Historian Dana Frank, an expert on human rights and U.S. policy in Honduras, said the caravan could have political implications in the United States less than a month before the midterm elections.

"Whatever the caravan's origins, some in the United States will be quick to raise alarms about a supposed dangerous immigrant invasion, and use that to try to influence the upcoming U.S. elections," Frank said. "Others will view these migrants with compassion and as further evidence of the need for comprehensive immigration reform ... ."

Frank added that the caravan's rapid growth "underscores quite how desperate the Honduran people are that they'd begin walking toward refuge in the United States with only a day back full of belongings."

In San Pedro Sula, where the procession started, sociologist Jenny Arguello said authorities wanted to make the mass migration out to be a political event, but it was just poor people fleeing violence.

"From my community 20 went and one neighbor came back sad with his little backpack because when he arrived they had already left," Arguello said. "You see that the need to leave is the priority. The people have already made up their minds and just hearing of the possibility they take off."

Honduras is largely dominated by murderous gangs that prey on families and businesses, and routinely sees homicide rates that are among the highest in the world.

Late Monday, Mexico's immigration authority said in a statement directed at the caravan that agents would have to review them individually at the border and those who did not meet requirements would not be allowed to enter.

Katie Waldman, a U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman, said in a statement that the caravan was "what we see day-in and day-out at the border as a result of well-advertised and well-known catch-and-release loopholes."

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DirtyDan
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2018, 07:25:03 PM »

Undocumented law.......

The  undocumented document

Much like 7 up the time uncola

No way to say it with a straight face

Dan
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Do it while you can. I did.... it my way
Bighead
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2018, 07:35:03 PM »

The problems in their country should not burden our boarders. Build the WALL...Do I have sympathy for them sure in some ways....but I do not work and pay taxes everyday to support those from other countries. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 02:16:41 AM »

I say build a mile wide landmine field and those that make it get to stay and those that don't..... well you get the idea.
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Robert
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 03:13:40 AM »

Citizenship is like marriage, Yes you can leave a marriage but isn't it appropriate to stay and either change things or work things out.

The selfish act is to leave, the real work and selflessness to the children and others involved is to stay and work it out. That way all benefit, especially future generations.   

Migrants are opportunists, corporate raiders, they go where they can benefit to take illegally what they did not work for. They cannot even stick to the laws of the land for incoming citizens. 

Communists/socialists see enough benefit in the US to change the laws to occupy the land. They do what illegals wont.

The Civil war was fought against US citizens, each group devoted enough to the US that they were willing to lay down their life and not to run.

Shouldn't all citizens be devoted enough to fight for their own country instead of leaving?

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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 04:05:23 AM »

Ya, Someone must have told them about the "alien rights" our founding father put in place   crazy2
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