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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2018, 01:00:55 PM » |
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Not only are they carrying flags from their "oppressive" countries, but now there are burnings of the US flag. WTH?? You want to come to this country, but you're burning the flag? Really?
Looks like an invasion to me.
and they painted a swastika symbol on Old Glory and then set it on fire in one pic. So why come here, if they think so little of our country?
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« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2018, 01:09:44 PM » |
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Not only are they carrying flags from their "oppressive" countries, but now there are burnings of the US flag. WTH?? You want to come to this country, but you're burning the flag? Really?
Looks like an invasion to me.
and they painted a swastika symbol on Old Glory and then set it on fire in one pic. So why come here, if they think so little of our country? free money, free medical, etc. this is why the original immigration laws actually required them to assimilate and become an America and give up their allegiance to their native country. this was until lb johnson and ted kennedy changed the laws in the '60s. both were evil men.
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« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2018, 02:24:53 PM » |
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We will see what effect the hurricane has on this caravan.
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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2018, 03:00:27 PM » |
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Imigrants dont come waving foreign flags...... Invaders do.
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« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2018, 03:29:39 PM » |
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We will see what effect the hurricane has on this caravan.
None.
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« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2018, 03:32:36 PM » |
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I never saw that large a group of illegals marching toward the U.S. border under Obama! Additionally nobody looks ragged and carrying large amounts of baggage either! Has me wondering if Trump paid them to march this close to the election in order to win it for the Republicans! Plus, Mexico was mysteriously unable to stop them! Another payoff?  You cant be serious?  Mexico dont give a rats ass if they just keep moving. I will bet you any amount they are not being paid by Trump...... more likely Soros.
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« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2018, 04:37:30 PM » |
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« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2018, 04:57:48 PM » |
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2018, 05:06:23 PM » |
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All I can say is buy more ammo and keep your powder dry.
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« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2018, 04:35:39 AM » |
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second wave of invasion force is on the way. they all look well dressed and fed. some with costly tats. I noticed this about the first wave. A lot that I've seen hadn't missed a meal in awhile... Most only have backpacks on. Is this all their bringing? all they own? Or is this supposed to be just a perception?
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« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2018, 05:30:09 AM » |
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"Why don't we just escort the "migrant caravan" to Canada? They have single-payer." - Larry Elder
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« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2018, 06:15:35 AM » |
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Why don't we just shoot the invaders as they cross the border? These are not immigrants, immigrants want to come to our country and take on our way of life. They don't burn the flag of the country they are fleeing to. I bet we only have to shoot the first 50 before they turn around.
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« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2018, 06:44:49 AM » |
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"Immigrants don't come waving foreign flags...... Invaders do."
Exactly. I'm all for sending troops to the border. Regarding shooting, anytime you send troops somewhere, you need to have some clear rules of engagement. I'm fine with shooting anyone who doesn't make a U-turn when warning shots are fired and/or clear verbal warnings are ignored. Since these people don't have transit papers to traverse Mexico, it is up to Mexico to enforce their own laws and lock them up. If they don't do that they are teaming up with this invading force. I make that point because if there is shooting, I want the bodies to fall on Mexican soil so that we are not stuck with the clean up.
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« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2018, 07:26:32 AM » |
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Soros
Why couldn't he just pay the government of the country to house the people where they were instead of bankrolling the caravan?
Because he foments unrest and is full of $hit. He wants anarchy and he wants human suffering on a global scale to yield to globalization
I am not in favor of gunning down people but an invasion must be repulsed. Posting the National Guard inside the border and the army at the border works for me.
After all the real purpose of the army is to protect the country, not the Saudi's
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« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2018, 07:43:11 AM » |
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I asked a liberal online who he thought was supplying the food, water, medical etc.
He sent me a link to a news article about an aid group.
That's as far as the process went in his brain. No thought as to who was supplying the money to the aid group.
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« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2018, 08:03:53 AM » |
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From the few shots of news real I do not see too many children. I see hoards of young men that are not starving. Carrying their flags and some are burning ours makes these invaders. Reports are saying Venezuela is funding this. If true their country and citizens are desperate and even eating zoo animals and yet they are sending precious money for this!
We put massive troops down their in 1916 when another invader entered - Ponco Villa. We elected Trump in part to deal with this in a way maybe no other President would. We shall soon find out.
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« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2018, 07:31:48 AM » |
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« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2018, 05:58:08 PM » |
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« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2018, 04:08:14 AM » |
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Labeled “The Southern Border Program to Improve Passage,” it is an officially-sanctioned, coordinated effort on the part of Mexico and the nations of Central America to invade the United States.
The agreement provides a network of border checkpoints through which an internal Mexican travel document will be issued, which is valid for a period of 72 hours. That document, known as a Regional Visitor’s Card, will provide temporary legal status to those in Mexico illegally for the sole purpose of invading the United States.
The announcement, officially granting the “privileges” to illegals from Guatemala and Belize, was expected to be applied to anyone who reaches the southern Mexican border with the intention of invading America.
Additionally, this action even provides special protections as well as financial assistance to unaccompanied minors to get to the United States.
Mexico made deal to send more illegal aliens to the U.S. http://www.examiner.com/article/mexico-made-deal-to-send-more-illegal-aliens-to-the-u-sAlso some possible disturbing news The so-called "migrant caravan" making its way north through Mexico has elements coordinating with ILLEGAL ALIENS already inside the USA, for those ILLEGALS to SHOOT TROOPS AND COPS IN THE BACK as the "migrants" storm the US Border from the South! ! ! !
This is why they allegedly chose Tijuana, Mexico as the caravan crossing point into the USA; they can depend on the tens of thousands of ILLEGALS already in California, to sneak-up behind the Troops and cops to SHOOT THEM IN THE BACK as they defend the US Border!Now, the globalists are moving ahead with their invasion plans. They want to show the US can be invaded at their whim. They hope President Trump TRIES to stop it, because when force is used, they will use video of the enforcement to upset Americans with the hope Democrats can take power two weeks from now on election day.
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« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2018, 07:33:32 AM » |
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couldnt we get about a half million bikers or so to go and 'watch their backs?' we could go and find out where the boat sank and retrieve some of the weapons and ammo we lost. just thinking here.
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« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2018, 03:35:02 AM » |
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« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2018, 05:19:16 PM » |
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« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2018, 07:39:26 PM » |
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The Hondurans in the caravan, the 7,000 people walking north to America, where do they go to the bathroom?
And eat and sleep and store their clothes?
And how is it that after a week on the road they are clean and their hair and clothes are well kept?
How is any of this possible?
And why do these people, supposedly fleeing intolerable conditions in their homeland, carry little flags from their homeland and break into its national anthem when the TV cameras show up?
And speaking of which, for oppressed people, they all seem to be pretty well fed, well groomed and well dressed. Their hair is neat and newly cut, their clothes are clean and in good repair, and they are built like people who have had ample nutrition all their lives, being well developed and, many of them, overweight.
And none of them look dirty or unkempt, like they had been sleeping on the ground for the last week.
There’s just nothing in any of this that makes sense.
Supposedly, these several thousand people spontaneously decided to leave Honduras, walking north in a group, hoping to trek the length of gang-plagued Mexico and present themselves as refugees and prospective Democrats at the American border.
Which, again, makes no sense whatsoever.
And leaves a lot of big questions unanswered, and ignored by the press. Such as, who organized this? Who is paying for it? How have they covered 500 miles in a week?
Seriously. Any number of American “reporters” have walked beside a sympathetic walker and talked about how this particular woman and her children had trekked half a thousand miles over the last week or so.
That’s 71 miles a day.
The best soldiers through history have been able to march 25 miles a day.
How have 7,000 people been fed and watered? And how have they gone to the bathroom? If the average person across the world produces about a pound of solid waste a day, that means that these folks are somehow disposing of more than three tons of feces each day.
That’s a heck of a lot of crap, even for a Central American roadway.
Provisioning such an army of people – the equivalent of 10 combat battalions in most of the world’s militaries – is a large task. Transporting and distributing the food and water necessary to keep those people moving is a massive chore which the press says nothing about.
The entire enterprise, as a spontaneous ad hoc event, is implausible.
As an orchestrated international attempt to influence an American election, it starts to make sense.
And ought to alarm us.
Unless it’s only Russians we don’t want screwing with our democracy.
Unfortunately, none of this has made the evening news. It’s almost as if the press, in whatever scheme is afoot, gladly accepts its role as propagandists to the American people.
Every story is sympathetic, as if an attempt to enlist viewers and readers in this caravan and the politics it symbolizes.
And so the story is not about an orchestrated attempt to manipulate electoral opinion and violate the borders and laws of the United States, it is about compassion and Trump and xenophobia and racism. It is the October surprise, it is the Blue Wave.
And it is all nonsense.
Because all of these people, if legitimate, have the ability to apply for American asylum in their own country – as do the residents of most nations of the world. We have consulates and embassies for a reason, and this is one of those reasons.
We also have laws and an oath of office for a reason.
Laws, so that “we the people” through our elected representatives clearly and systematically govern our society. Law is the means by which the people express and exercise their sovereignty. Disobedience to law is disobedience to the will of the people, it is the subverting of their sovereignty and franchise.
Breaking the law is denying you the vote. Your vote elects representatives – lets you pick the country’s direction – and the representatives write the law. If that law is ignored, your representation becomes meaningless.
You get screwed.
And the oath of office?
Members of Congress – even Democrats – swear an oath to “bear true faith and allegiance” to the Constitution, which establishes our system of laws and specifically charges the Congress with making the rules of naturalization and immigration.
Who comes across the border and under what conditions they can stay is a constitutional responsibility of the Congress. That is to be determined by a congressional vote, not by a Honduran mob.
Failure to insist on that – even for Democrats – is a violation of your congressman’s oath of office.
So there is not a Democrat or Republican response to this travelling army of invaders – there is only an American response.
And that is: Turn around and go home.
Because the law of the United States does not allow a mass entry like this. The law does not declare the borders open.
If Democrats and progressives don’t like that, they can try to change the law. If America’s progressives want open borders and believe all the world’s people have a right to live in the United States – as they say they do – then they should adjust immigration law accordingly.
But until then, if they are to keep their oaths of office, they must stand for the law and the border.
And they must tell their surrogates to turn around and go home.
Because this caravan is nothing more than a bunch of political crap.
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« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2018, 10:59:27 PM » |
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Too many have no idea where the countries are these marchers are coming from apart that it's a generalized place called Central America. This place is somewhere near Mexico which has some great beaches and is a good place to buy margaritas.
Show them a world map and they wouldn't be able to point at Central America. (True for the population of other countries as well).
I posted earlier in this thread that I asked a liberal that same questions and was told the marchers were getting help form various aid organisations and workers. No thought as where the MONEY was coming from used by the organisations.
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« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2018, 06:38:29 AM » |
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Wizzard's post # 62 fer as I'm concerned is spot on. Watching the evening "news" clips of the "march" I noticed many of the things you splained. I also remember being on an Aircraft Carrier in the south China Sea and eating well but Still losing weight and at times falling asleep on any relatively level surface. And I was in my late teens early 20s while doing this. Fer thinkin folks Far TOO Many questions that Still remain unanswered bout this "march" "caravan" push to git to the U S of A. I'd Really hate too THINK this whole shebang IS politically motivated!  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2018, 09:11:26 AM » |
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I never saw that large a group of illegals marching toward the U.S. border under Obama!
Yes, there was one. Remember the 50,000 "women and children" that came up during Obama's reign. He let them in. That's why they did it again, and we let them in again. And that's why they are doing it again. We have a lousy track record with drawing and keeping lines in the sand.
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« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2018, 09:26:42 AM » |
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The only lines that got long under Obama was those collecting welfare.
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« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2018, 09:31:08 PM » |
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