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« on: October 24, 2018, 12:16:56 PM » |
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Maybe all the loose talk is starting to get to more imbalanced people in our society. I’m somewhat surprised it hasn’t surfaced before now.
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2018, 12:21:22 PM » |
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Could be those darn sneaky, colluding Ruskies?
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2018, 12:23:37 PM » |
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Maybe all the loose talk is starting to get to more imbalanced people in our society. I’m somewhat surprised it hasn’t surfaced before now.
I'm betting the latest "bomb" threats are a ruse by some left winger to bring sympathy for the left prior to the midterms. Probably the Russians. LOL It will be interesting to see who they track this down to.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2018, 12:33:06 PM » |
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Dim wit media talking head asked if it was possible for one person to do this. FBI spokesperson kindly reminded them the parcels were sent by USPS and not hand delivered. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2018, 01:10:10 PM » |
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Dim wit media talking head asked if it was possible for one person to do this. FBI spokesperson kindly reminded them the parcels were sent by USPS and not hand delivered.  Using the left's anti-gun logic, the USPS is culpable in this crime. It's interesting that none of the bombs went off. Either the person or persons who sent them are not that skilled, or they were intentionally designed to only look like a bomb.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2018, 01:23:36 PM » |
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Dim wit media talking head asked if it was possible for one person to do this. FBI spokesperson kindly reminded them the parcels were sent by USPS and not hand delivered.  Using the left's anti-gun logic, the USPS is culpable in this crime. It's interesting that none of the bombs went off. Either the person or persons who sent them are not that skilled, or they were intentionally designed to only look like a bomb. From what I've heard on the news, the packages had all the authentic parts to build a bomb, but were not actually fully assembled, armed devices. Seems they were more of a, "See what I could have done to you?" message. They'll no doubt be caught, should be interesting. Personally if any real bombs are sent to NYC, San Diego, etc. and do kill someone, should the sender even be arrested? Those are sanctuary cities where it's OK to ignore laws if you don't like them, right? Speed limits, taxes, murder, whatever. Have a parade. Demand your rights to ignore bills passed and signed into law by your own elected officials. All good. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2018, 01:29:53 PM » |
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Maybe all the loose talk is starting to get to more imbalanced people in our society. I’m somewhat surprised it hasn’t surfaced before now.
I'm betting the latest "bomb" threats are a ruse by some left winger to bring sympathy for the left prior to the midterms. Probably the Russians. LOL It will be interesting to see who they track this down to. This was exactly my thoughts.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2018, 02:12:14 PM » |
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All the above. But one has to wonder when someone will be taken out. We already know there are people who will take lives because of someone’s color, member of a particular group, or just going to school, Steve Scalice was almost the first and its only gotten hotter since.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2018, 02:18:45 PM » |
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BBC's Pidgin English edition makes all news more interesting... https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-45968168
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2018, 04:57:56 AM » |
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WOW! That's embarrassing for me that 43% that already voted in Texas voted blue... Must be all the libs in Austin/Houston.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2018, 08:36:50 AM » |
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Are the numbers for how they voted or how they are registered?
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2018, 08:44:09 AM » |
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2018, 08:46:08 AM » |
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2018, 09:33:30 AM » |
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Dim wit media talking head asked if it was possible for one person to do this. FBI spokesperson kindly reminded them the parcels were sent by USPS and not hand delivered.  Using the left's anti-gun logic, the USPS is culpable in this crime. It's interesting that none of the bombs went off. Either the person or persons who sent them are not that skilled, or they were intentionally designed to only look like a bomb. Proof that the bombs were made by democrats: They don't work.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2018, 10:23:18 AM » |
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Dim wit media talking head asked if it was possible for one person to do this. FBI spokesperson kindly reminded them the parcels were sent by USPS and not hand delivered.  Using the left's anti-gun logic, the USPS is culpable in this crime. It's interesting that none of the bombs went off. Either the person or persons who sent them are not that skilled, or they were intentionally designed to only look like a bomb. Proof that the bombs were made by democrats: They don't work.  That's all the proof i need.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2018, 11:37:58 AM » |
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WOW! That's embarrassing for me that 43% that already voted in Texas voted blue... Must be all the libs in Austin/Houston. How is it even possible to know who (party) the early ballots are cast for? Never heard of that before, and never voted early so I'm clueless x2.
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2018, 08:18:54 AM » |
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Appears the FBI has a Right Wing Extremist in custody saying that he is a person of interest. Apparently he has not been charged as yet.
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2018, 08:22:46 AM » |
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Appears the FBI has a Right Wing Extremist in custody saying that he is a person of interest. Apparently he has not been charged as yet.
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He's in custody. No need to rush any charges. (I have not heard right wing extremist, though I have heard he is known to authorities and has previous bad acts consistent with this case)
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2018, 08:52:45 AM » |
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Does this mean the Russians are off the hook? Or is Sayoc Russian?
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2018, 11:48:55 AM » |
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WASHINGTON (AP) A Florida man with a long criminal history was taken into custody Friday in the nationwide mail-bomb scare targeting prominent Democrats who have traded criticism with President Donald Trump, a first break in a case that had seized the national conversation and spread fear of election-season violence with little precedent in the U.S.
Law enforcement officials identified the man as Cesar Sayoc, 56, of Aventura, Florida. He was picked up at an auto parts store in the nearby city of Plantation. Court records show Sayoc has a history of arrests for theft, illegal possession of steroids and a 2002 charge of making a bomb threat.
It was not immediately clear whether Sayoc had been formally charged in the current case.
Law enforcement officers were seen on television examining a white van, its windows covered with an assortment of stickers, outside the Plantation auto parts store. Authorities covered the vehicle with a blue tarp and took it away on the back of a flatbed truck.
The stickers included images of Trump, American flags and what appeared to be logos of the Republican National Committee and CNN, though the writing surrounding those images was unclear.
The development came amid a nationwide manhunt for the person responsible for a series of explosive devices addressed to prominent Democrats including former President Barack Obama, former Vice President Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.
Trump, after Sayoc was apprehended, declared that "we must never allow political violence take root in America" and Americans "must unify." As in comments earlier in the week, he did not mention that the package recipients were all Democrats or officials in Obama's administration, in addition to CNN, a news network he criticizes almost daily.
Earlier Friday, he complained that "this 'bomb' stuff" was taking attention away from the upcoming election and said critics were wrongly blaming him and his heated rhetoric.
The Justice Department scheduled a Friday afternoon news conference in Washington that was to include New York Police Commissioner James O'Neill, whose department investigated the mailings with the FBI.
Law enforcement officials said they had intercepted a dozen packages in states across the country. None had exploded, and it wasn't immediately clear if they were intended to cause physical harm or simply sow fear and anxiety.
Earlier Friday, authorities said suspicious packages addressed to New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker and former National Intelligence Director James Clapper both similar to those containing pipe bombs sent to other prominent critics of Trump had been intercepted.
Investigators believe the mailings were staggered. The U.S. Postal Service searched their facilities 48 hours ago and the most recent packages didn't turn up. Officials don't think they were sitting in the system without being spotted. They were working to determine for sure. The officials spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
Online court records show that Sayoc in 2002 was arrested and served a year of probation for a felony charge of threatening to throw or place a bomb. No further details were available about the case.
Sayoc was convicted in 2014 for grand theft and misdemeanor theft of less than $300, and in 2013 for battery. In 2004, he faced several felony charges for possession of a synthetic anabolic-androgenic steroid. He also had several arrests for theft in the 1990s.
He filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2012, informing the court he had $4,175 in personal property and more than $21,000 in debts. His name is also listed on business records tied to dry cleaning and catering businesses. Records show he was born in New York and according to an online resume he attended college in North Carolina.
"Debtor lives with mother, owns no furniture," Sayoc's lawyer indicated in a property list.
Investigators were analyzing the innards of the crude devices to reveal whether they were intended to detonate or simply sow fear just before Election Day.
Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that the devices, containing timers and batteries, were not rigged to explode upon opening. But they were uncertain whether the devices were poorly designed or never intended to cause physical harm.
Most of those targeted were past or present U.S. officials, but one was sent to actor Robert De Niro and billionaire George Soros. The bombs have been sent across the country - from New York, Delaware and Washington, D.C., to Florida and California, where Rep. Maxine Waters was targeted. They bore the return address of Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the former chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee.
The common thread among the bomb targets was obvious: their critical words for Trump and his frequent, harsher criticism in return.
The package to Clapper was addressed to him at CNN's Midtown Manhattan address. Clapper, a frequent Trump critic, told CNN that he was not surprised he was targeted and that he considered the actions "definitely domestic terrorism."
The devices were packaged in manila envelopes and carried U.S. postage stamps. They were being examined by technicians at the FBI's forensic lab in Quantico, Virginia.
The packages stoked nationwide tensions ahead of the Nov. 6 election to determine control of Congress a campaign both major political parties have described in near-apocalyptic terms. Politicians from both parties used the threats to decry a toxic political climate and lay blame.
The bombs are about 6 inches (15 centimeters) long and packed with powder and broken glass, according to a law enforcement official who viewed X-ray images. The official said the devices were made from PVC pipe and covered with black tape.
The first bomb discovered was delivered Monday to the suburban New York compound of Soros, a major contributor to Democratic causes. Soros has called Trump's presidency "dangerous."
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2018, 11:50:41 AM » |
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At least we pretty much have our answer on if it was a conservative nut or a liberal nut.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2018, 12:01:57 PM » |
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I would say he is a nut no matter his views. Same as all the rioters and protesters across the country with no purpose other than to stir the $417 pot.
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2018, 12:20:10 PM » |
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At least we pretty much have our answer on if it was a conservative nut or a liberal nut.
This arrest seemed awfully fast. They (now) claim it is based on fingerprint and DNA evidence (obviously matched to records from his prior arrests and convictions) but still, usually law enforcement doesn't work this fast. I hope this is a proper arrest and not simply pinning it on a convenient patsy, err, "suspect"
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2018, 12:35:22 PM » |
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At least we pretty much have our answer on if it was a conservative nut or a liberal nut.
This arrest seemed awfully fast. They (now) claim it is based on fingerprint and DNA evidence (obviously matched to records from his prior arrests and convictions) but still, usually law enforcement doesn't work this fast. I hope this is a proper arrest and not simply pinning it on a convenient patsy, err, "suspect" And why would they do that?
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2018, 01:15:09 PM » |
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And why would they do that?
Bury a political hot potato 1 week before an election.
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2018, 01:28:22 PM » |
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And why would they do that?
Bury a political hot potato 1 week before an election. So now you are saying that it is possible someone did this to create election confusion?
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2018, 01:52:14 PM » |
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1) None of the folks who were "Targeted" get mail delivered. Security detail picks it up. 2) None of the folks "Targeted" have checked their own mail in decades. 3) The police/FBI,/ATF, et al, wouldn't release any information for weeks. Commonly known as an ongoing investigation, waiting for a pattern. 4) No equally reprehensible Republicans were, "targeted". 5) Another desperate call to look away from the other failed orchestrated crisis. I gotta go make more popcorn.
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« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2018, 05:39:34 PM » |
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and billionaire George Soros.
The first bomb discovered was delivered Monday to the suburban New York compound of Soros, a major contributor to Democratic causes. Soros has called Trump's presidency "dangerous."
It's a shame that one didn't explode.
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and billionaire George Soros.
The first bomb discovered was delivered Monday to the suburban New York compound of Soros, a major contributor to Democratic causes. Soros has called Trump's presidency "dangerous."
It's a shame that one didn't explode. Really? REALLY?
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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2018, 06:45:57 AM » |
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From a purely political standpoint we are extremely lucky that no bomb went off. I don’t really see any scenario where it would be a good thing.
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« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2018, 07:30:41 AM » |
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Where else are you going to get a story about a Filipino (not native American) mix, bodybuilder, stripper, pizza delivery guy building incompetent pipe bombs (and living) in the back of his highly visible political sticker van, leaving his DNA and fingerprints all over them (with his long criminal history, assuring his apprehension in 17.5 minutes), mailing them to high profile people who never open their own mail, and tracked by his cell phone?
The 2018 version of Dumb and Dumber. Or, not the Three, but the One Stooge. I suppose they can get Jim Carrey to play him in a slapstick movie.
So much for his 15 minutes of fame, and remaining life in a small room.
The only thing good about this story is the apparent lack of firearms.
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« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2018, 04:33:35 PM » |
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From a purely political standpoint we are extremely lucky that no bomb went off. I don’t really see any scenario where it would be a good thing.
Well, there were a couple episodes of McGiver where he blew a wall down or dispatched the bad guys with a bomb. So there may be a few scenarios where it would be a good thing.
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The first bomb discovered was delivered Monday to the suburban New York compound of Soros, a major contributor to Democratic causes. Soros has called Trump's presidency "dangerous."
It's a shame that one didn't explode. Really? REALLY? [/quote] Maybe while the maker was building one in private, with no one else around, as these things are done? You know, like all good (bad?) Mad Bombers, they can be found by their missing appendages. I think it was the move The Green Zone?
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