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Author Topic: I'm Appalled and need to VENT (Politics AND Religion enter at own risk)  (Read 1301 times)
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« on: October 30, 2018, 08:48:34 AM »

I just came across a Facebook post that has sent me over the edge.  I'm angrier than I've ever been over all this political crap.  And it's not what the politician did or didn't do.  It's the insane hunger that the left has to create, and believe in, hatred.  They create hatred where there is none, and their supporters are so willing to believe that hatred was created by the President in 2016.  They twist the definition of ordinary words to create hatred.  They purposefully take statements out of context daily to create hatred.

But this latest hit me in the heart, as a Jewish man.  Yes, married out of my race and faith, non-practicing, my son went to a catholic HS and goes to a catholic college, but I identify completely due to entire life's experiences as a Jewish man.  This FB post was a blast at the vice Pres. for meeting with a Rabbi of a congregation of Jews that follow Jesus, following a mass murder of other Jews.  They belittled the VP and his staff over the Jesus thing, but what came next was insane............  Jews made snide and nasty remarks about other Jews.  Can you F ucking imagine?  Over politics, in order to attack the VP, Jews attacked other Jews.

When did it all get so backwards?   
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2018, 09:06:24 AM »

Dont know G-man but it is all you hear about.....
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2018, 09:08:57 AM »

           Gary-nuttin but a Guess here BUT back bouts the clinton administration? I too am wondering how zackly "stuff" gits so snugglin twisted outa shape. While I don't use it myself I DO understand the WHY of P O T U S Trump tweeting so much. Seems like the lame stream "media" wants to stir the pot-ALWAYS. Then the "media" bitches when POTUS calls them out! I for one can actually Listen to what's being said and I DO NOT NEED A "media" talking head to splain it to me. Gary-try too NOT let yer blood pressure increase too effin much. Peace My Friend. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2018, 10:29:09 AM »

It is very sad, down right awful, that anger and hate have been so cultivated and encouraged.  Anger and hate have grown considerably more prominent in the last decade... In my opinion.   ........... I hate that this is happening!  But if I allow myself to be too angry or let myself focus my hate on people rather than on the decline of freedom and civility, then I will be adding to the problem.  It is hard for me to keep my focus off people though.  There are some that are cultivating the hate and I would love to see those people locked away out of sight and mind.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2018, 11:57:39 AM »

My wife and I have been avoiding "progressive" type aquaintances these days. It's almost like a mental illness the way they are so bent and twisted about Trump. I blame the Sick Twitches at CNN, MSNBC etc. for the endless trafficking in pathalogical hatred, vitreol and slander.
A couple of fellows I "used to" ride with ragged on Trump all the time. I figured life is too short to be near people like that any more.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2018, 12:02:51 PM »

Down is up

Up is down
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2018, 12:11:47 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2018, 12:14:03 PM »

Gary, growing up in the church attending two Catholic colleges and raising my family in the church I really understand your position on life.  I would also be very proud to stand between you and Evan this week and identify as a strong Jewish man in support of your religion and our combined freedoms of choice.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2018, 02:32:32 PM »

I guess you know the particulars like the Rabbi was not arranged by Pence and that Epstien arranged it. Im not sure why she did it if it was political correctness or thinking a Messianic Rabbi would unite some but its really the anger against Trump that fueled the responses.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/outrage-as-pence-brings-out-messianic-rabbi-to-pray-for-synagogue-victims/

I have talked to many people and find very few that endorse the media narrative of what is happening. I would also not trust ANY social media site for a true pulse of what is happening. Dont forget that with the elections so close Trumps opposition are trying desperately to come up with anything and everything to disparage Trump. Dont be distracted by the side shows that are being brought up by the media. Talk to people and find out the truth.

Division is the name of the game, it serves to distract and separate so people forget we have a common interest in this country succeeding.

Those that believed in a Obama utopia are not happy with the changes of going back to the ideas of Trump and nationalism. It could be a hard pill to swallow to know that the changes that were made for your point of view are being undone. The goals and achieving them to these people justify the means and Unity can be sacrificed on the alter of achieving one world goals.

Trump said something in one of his campaign promises, "You will get tired of winning" Make no mistake we are winning and getting our country back also. But I would not expect that it would not come without a fight.   

While the left has anger just remind them it would be nice to visit the new US Embassy in Jerusalem.

There is another way to look at this whole thing that is happening, as a fulfillment of scripture. There are signs that are happening that were told about in the bible and the Torah. So if you see the events you can look and see that these were foretold, very exciting and yet distressing also. We see preparations being made for the temple to be built and the events told that would happen at that time gives both Jew and Christian alike to marvel at the words spoken in these religious books. It was also told how people would be and so those with faith should have an idea of the mood and disposition of people and the real causes. What a time to be alive.

One of the best compilations I've ever seen. It's a BOMBSHELL
https://twitter.com/Fuctupmind/status/1056971162566250496/video/1
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2018, 04:40:16 PM »

A long time ago I used to consider myself a Democrat. This was during the Carter and Reagan years.

The media, even at that time, now looking back, was definitely in the Leftist camp. It didn't appear that way to me then but I can see it now. It wasn't as blatant as it is today.

My disenchantment with the Democrat Party began with the nomination of Bill Clinton. I, as a Democrat at the time, believed that we held our officials to a particular standard or standards. We did with Reagan, we did with Bush. I believed the media and supported the consensus of media as to the standards we must hold them too.

This went completely out the door with Clinton.

The sleaze, the corruption, the crime and lack of civility and honor was ignored by the media. Said it was now not a big deal. Particularly with the trail of women which were obviously abused and assaulted.

Things that the media would crucify a Republican for even if it were simply suggested and much more if a hint of evidence would be known was now nothing.

The hypocrisy was stunning. I went conservative and generally considered myself a Republican then.

The media's treatment of GW Bush was disgusting.
The fawning over Obama was over the top. Always.

Trump is a breath of Fresh air.

To see the President hold the feet of the media to the fire is spectacular. I think the Republicans finally realize that it is ok to have a spine. To stand, without apology, for your views and positions.

This is driving the leftist to levels of insanity they are not accustomed to. Nothing they do seems to work. But this is what happens when your political opponent has a spine of steel.

A pretty good thing to have as the President of the United States.

The leftist have invested a tremendous amount into what they thought was their future. The Democrats, Progressives, Media, and the Entertainment industry thought it was in the bag. How could it not be?

They will get more corrupt. They will get more violent. They are obviously not shy about it either.

My heart aches for those lost and their families and friends in that tragic shooting at the Synagogue.

There cannot be enough Justice. There cannot be. 



 
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2018, 05:22:05 PM »

so google" what part of the media do the rothschilds own"  they own it  all..and the FED..we have been at war ever since the FED was created....and they  printed $47 trillion for free to buy the military industrial complex that Eisenhour warned us about...as best as I understand it...at this point it would seem resistance is futile...so..time to ride the wind while we can!
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2018, 06:13:23 PM »

I’ll put on my flame suit as soon as I post but this is my view and how I sleep at night. I get as upset with the politicians we have sent to Washington as most anyone and sometimes I just have to say my piece or put in my two cents worth. Now I can think for myself and I have a decent bullshit meter and a lot is being shoveled our way by both sides to varying degrees. Money and power have always been the determining factor in shaping our country as it is for just about every country on earth.

I have little of either but I try to keep informed and vote for the best available to me. But in the final analysis, I believe God is in control and I’m good with that. It doesn’t mean the US will be on top or stay on top, even though we have had a pretty good run as a country. We just have to do the best we can to make it a better place for our family and friends. I try to never lose sight of the one who will set things right in the end whether I’m still here or not.
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2018, 07:14:36 PM »

so google" what part of the media do the rothschilds own"  they own it  all..and the FED..we have been at war ever since the FED was created....and they  printed $47 trillion for free to buy the military industrial complex that Eisenhour warned us about...as best as I understand it...at this point it would seem resistance is futile...so..time to ride the wind while we can!
Do you actually know any other statement? Other than look at the rothschilds? It get old dude.  No matter what side of the view you are on.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2018, 09:34:13 PM »

My mother's family is Scotch / Irish / English WASP.  My father's family is Jewish.  His parents came from the Baltics as young children and arrived here in the early 1900s before the Bolshevik revolution.  They came through Ellis and continued to Galveston before settling in Texas and Louisiana. 

Sadly, our family's take on many(?) or most(?) American Jews is that they are leftist first and Jewish second. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2018, 07:08:55 AM »

My mother's family is Scotch / Irish / English WASP.  My father's family is Jewish.  His parents came from the Baltics as young children and arrived here in the early 1900s before the Bolshevik revolution.  They came through Ellis and continued to Galveston before settling in Texas and Louisiana.  

Sadly, our family's take on many(?) or most(?) American Jews is that they are leftist first and Jewish second.  
My grandfather and his family including my dad... of German origin( Volhynia)... were caught up in the Bolshevik anger bestowed on German Russians(Poles), and had everything including their land confiscated (1915) and they were herded into cattle cars and shipped to Siberia. Many in the same predicament did not survive the exile from their homes. The Bolsheviks were evil beyond any description that most of us would understand today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volhynia
The snowflakes who are being financially buried getting barista degrees today are being indoctrinated to believe "Markism is where it is at" The indentured servitude to pay off their massive tuition debts will follow them for life as they can't declare bankruptcy to avoid this "debtors prison without bars"!!! All that money spent to learn how to be good socialists.
There needs to be a clean sweep to clear these "so called socialists" from education at all levels.

Canada is standing on the precipice with our toes hanging off the edge right now...god help us take a step back and rid ourselves of Trudeau and all those of his ilk. I don't think it is possible to overstate how much damage these people are doing to my country.
Americans are so fortunate Trump was elected. ...praying for your red wave!!!
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2018, 09:00:54 AM »

My mother's family is Scotch / Irish / English WASP.  My father's family is Jewish.  His parents came from the Baltics as young children and arrived here in the early 1900s before the Bolshevik revolution.  They came through Ellis and continued to Galveston before settling in Texas and Louisiana. 

Sadly, our family's take on many(?) or most(?) American Jews is that they are leftist first and Jewish second. 


YES!  I have felt this same way for about 10 years now.

I also heard Dennis Prager say it a few years ago when Obama was treating Netenyahu so poorly and got involved Israel's election the way he did.  American Jews still professed their love for Obama. 

We finally have a President who is putting our country AND Israel first, and he's considered a racist for it............. by Jews!

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2018, 09:20:14 AM »

I’ll put on my flame suit as soon as I post but this is my view and how I sleep at night. I get as upset with the politicians we have sent to Washington as most anyone and sometimes I just have to say my piece or put in my two cents worth. Now I can think for myself and I have a decent bullshit meter and a lot is being shoveled our way by both sides to varying degrees. Money and power have always been the determining factor in shaping our country as it is for just about every country on earth.

I have little of either but I try to keep informed and vote for the best available to me. But in the final analysis, I believe God is in control and I’m good with that. It doesn’t mean the US will be on top or stay on top, even though we have had a pretty good run as a country. We just have to do the best we can to make it a better place for our family and friends. I try to never lose sight of the one who will set things right in the end whether I’m still here or not.
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2018, 09:45:11 AM »

My mother's family is Scotch / Irish / English WASP.  My father's family is Jewish.  His parents came from the Baltics as young children and arrived here in the early 1900s before the Bolshevik revolution.  They came through Ellis and continued to Galveston before settling in Texas and Louisiana. 

Sadly, our family's take on many(?) or most(?) American Jews is that they are leftist first and Jewish second. 


YES!  I have felt this same way for about 10 years now.

I also heard Dennis Prager say it a few years ago when Obama was treating Netenyahu so poorly and got involved Israel's election the way he did.  American Jews still professed their love for Obama. 

We finally have a President who is putting our country AND Israel first, and he's considered a racist for it............. by Jews!

 

 Yea Gary I am amazed on how bad president Trump is being treated. He is the most Jewish friendly president we have had in a long time and he is being chastised because of it. Three other presidents vowed to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem aND never did. Trump did.
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2018, 12:05:11 PM »

That old Trump he's such an anti Semite he let his daughter marry a Jew.  Grin

The rabid left become more foolish every day as they whip themselves into a light airy froth of self offense.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2018, 01:44:45 PM »

I believe prayers are more likely to be answered if like Thoreau said we move confidently in the direction
and have hope that the american people will pleasantly surprise us next week,

Still, offer to drive your elderly neighbors to the polls where you can, especially if they are of the same mind as yourselves.  All the votes matter, especially in states other than ny,nj, wash, oregon and california

I am not a glass half full or empty guy  I am just pretty damn happy I have a glass
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2018, 07:43:34 PM »

G-Man, Oss, I feel your pain as much as I can, and your anger and confusion 100%. I do not know how or why Jews feel Trump is the enemy, or how the Democrats who sent pallets (literally) of cash to Iran could be their choice to lead the nation. The Democrats who would not move the embassy to Jerusalem, the Democrats who ignored the Iranian's promise to destroy Israel and that they are the #1 bankroller of terrorism. I lived by you in Port Chester from around 1959 to 1966 or '67 from 4 years old on. It truly was a different time. Anything truly important was scheduled for Saturday night so that nobody had to violate their Sabbath. Granted, there was a high number of Jews compared to here in the Midwest, but it wasn't a matter of majority. Folks just plain got along. Our landlady was Mrs. Katz, a neighbor was Mr. Goldman, heck half my classmates' last lames ended in berg, man, son and often included a gold or silver. It was just normal, and some kids got dreidels confiscated in class, and others lost their gen u whine Duncan yo-yos. There were Christmas Trees and Hanukkah Bushes, and everyone had some form of decorative lights. We called it normal, and it was a common culture. Everyone knew a guy who knew a guy, there was a Yiddish expression for everything, nobody said, "you shoulda told me, I coulda got it for you wholesale" until they knew the item you bought couldn't be returned. You could look around the crowd at the Macy's parade and see plenty necklaces with a Star of David. A JAP had nothing to do with SE Asia and neither Jews or Gentiles were the enemy. I don't know how that could change so much in my lifetime, but I miss it, and have dwindling patience with those causing it. Be strong, brother. I dare say the press is on borrowed time.  
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2018, 03:03:03 AM »

If you have any doubt about the division in our country look no further for an example than this. As they say sex sells even though the product may be bad, I have never seen anyone fit this description she gives, but it sure lays on the hype and fear.




Throughout the email, Ocasio-Cortez makes not a single campaign promise other than the promise to protect voters from the “white supremacist forces” that are apparently terrorizing the United States under President Trump.

“Six days from now, we can defeat the brutal white supremacist forces of anti-Semitism, anti-immigrant nativism, and racism,” says the famed socialist. “We can hold accountable the cold-hearted monsters who have repeatedly attacked our health care. We can send a message to the bigots and billionaires that this country belongs to all of us. We can win if we show up on November 6. We must end Republican control of Congress and begin to reclaim our nation.”
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2018, 11:39:52 AM »

If you have any doubt about the division in our country look no further for an example than this. As they say sex sells even though the product may be bad, I have never seen anyone fit this description she gives, but it sure lays on the hype and fear.




Throughout the email, Ocasio-Cortez makes not a single campaign promise other than the promise to protect voters from the “white supremacist forces” that are apparently terrorizing the United States under President Trump.

“Six days from now, we can defeat the brutal white supremacist forces of anti-Semitism, anti-immigrant nativism, and racism,” says the famed socialist. “We can hold accountable the cold-hearted monsters who have repeatedly attacked our health care. We can send a message to the bigots and billionaires that this country belongs to all of us. We can win if we show up on November 6. We must end Republican control of Congress and begin to reclaim our nation.”
Just Another Clueless Millenial who will look no further than their Facebook likes. They would never sit down with anyone who has witnessed true socialism(Marxsism) first hand, because it does not fit with their Borg Collective Mantra..."Republican...Orange Man...Evil" (Repeated over and over) Shocked
When asked detailed questions about how her socialist programs will be paid for, she is stuck for even the simplest of answers...or tax the rich  uglystupid2...you know...the top 5% who already pay most of the taxes, and of course all those evil multinational corporations who, if pushed too hard just take their investment money and jobs elsewhere.
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2018, 02:55:14 PM »

If you have any doubt about the division in our country look no further for an example than this. As they say sex sells even though the product may be bad, I have never seen anyone fit this description she gives, but it sure lays on the hype and fear.




Throughout the email, Ocasio-Cortez makes not a single campaign promise other than the promise to protect voters from the “white supremacist forces” that are apparently terrorizing the United States under President Trump.

“Six days from now, we can defeat the brutal white supremacist forces of anti-Semitism, anti-immigrant nativism, and racism,” says the famed socialist. “We can hold accountable the cold-hearted monsters who have repeatedly attacked our health care. We can send a message to the bigots and billionaires that this country belongs to all of us. We can win if we show up on November 6. We must end Republican control of Congress and begin to reclaim our nation.”
Just Another Clueless Millenial who will look no further than their Facebook likes. They would never sit down with anyone who has witnessed true socialism(Marxsism) first hand, because it does not fit with their Borg Collective Mantra..."Republican...Orange Man...Evil" (Repeated over and over)

My daughter was wearing an ocasio-Cortez t- shirt
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2018, 07:19:22 PM »

Hi gang!

Here is an antidote to the liberal media hate machine.
A few months ago I came across the site:

https://intellectualfroglegs.com/

It is run by a guy named Joe Dan Gorman, a good-ol'-boy up in middle Tennessee.
He is a patriot, a conservative and Trump supporter, and has apparently been making videos, one every few weeks, for something like 6 years now.
Several of his videos have been banned from Youtube, and given Youtube's (recent?) leftist slanted censorship, that is a (+) in my book.

Each video is about 30 minutes long, and is a collection of short clips, from a few seconds to maybe one minute long, -and listen to the carefully-selected music that goes with each clip!

Anyway, nothing nasty or terribly offensive, just some good political humor lambasting the leftists.
The first one I watched was 'Red Tsunami'. The first few seconds I thought "What the .....?", then I started to smile, then grin, and I had tears of laughter running down my face by the end of it.
The more recent videos are 'Red November', 'While my Liberal Gently Weeps', 'The Media that Cried Trump', and 'Red Tsunami'.

If I may point out one clip in particular, it is 'Red Tsunami', starting at 1:57 in the video and running for about 1 minute. Watch the clip, and LISTEN to the music! Heartfelt decency and patriotism!

Happy watching!

Jim


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