New handgun round

[Gavin_Sons]

https://www.ballisticmag.com/2018/10/30/magnum-429-desert-eagle-cartridge/

1,625 fps out of a 6 inch barrel   I will own one of these.

[Forge]

I prefer my Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull. 240 grains out of my 7.5” barrel at 1900 fps! You can also shoot 45 Colt rounds through it. Granted, shooting the Desert Eagle is much less brutal because it is very heavy, but my Ruger was much less expensive. I used to own a Smith 460 that was incredible! I wish I still had that handgun, but unfortunately I needed a house payment a few years ago...

[Chrisj CMA]

I'm a revolver guy, but that new gun is awesome looking. I'd want one too but as stated above. At that cost I will be a distant admirer. I already have a handgun that is very expensive to feed. My S&W 500 can burn up ammo money pretty quickly.  But it is a hoot to fire and I never get tired of the recoil  

[MarkT]

Well good for them.  They are keeping the dialog & interest going.  I don't need/want one; happy with my Super Blackhawk in 44 mag and the S&W 500mag for powerful hunting handguns.

[Psychotic Bovine]

I like it, and would buy it, since I like Desert Eagles.  The power doesn't impress me, though.
My Magnum Research BFR in .45-70 already makes more power than the .44, .50 AE, and .454. And with the right loads even out-powers the .500 smith.

[Chrisj CMA]

I like it, and would buy it, since I like Desert Eagles.  The power doesn't impress me, though.
My Magnum Research BFR in .45-70 already makes more power than the .44, .50 AE, and .454. And with the right loads even out-powers the .500 smith.

Maybe hot loaded it out powers a factory low recoil or even regular round, but not a hot loaded .500  these rounds and the weapon can take loads well above the power of any other marketed handgun period.  They dont call the SW.500 the most powerful handgun in the world for nothing.  Even my T-Rex rounds with the 700grn bullet is a hard one to top in any caliber.

[Psychotic Bovine]

I like it, and would buy it, since I like Desert Eagles.  The power doesn't impress me, though.
My Magnum Research BFR in .45-70 already makes more power than the .44, .50 AE, and .454. And with the right loads even out-powers the .500 smith.

Maybe hot loaded it out powers a factory low recoil or even regular round, but not a hot loaded .500  these rounds and the weapon can take loads well above the power of any other marketed handgun period.  They dont call the SW.500 the most powerful handgun in the world for nothing.  Even my T-Rex rounds with the 700grn bullet is a hard one to top in any caliber.

I disagree.  I have seen rounds specifically for the .45-70 BFR (fast burning powder, not for rifles) that out power .500 Smith.  The long cylinder on the BFR allows longer, heavier bullets, also.  Maybe a .500 Smith BFR would have equal power capability, but not the X Frame Smith.
And the BFR, being a single action, is stronger than the double action Smith (single actions don't have a crane). 

[Jess from VA]

Interesting that they are calling it the 429 Desert Eagle Cartridge, since all .44 Mag bullets actually measure .429.

Sort of like the .38 actually being .357, but they didn't call it the .357 until they lengthened the case.

I've always liked the Desert Eagle as a monster (auto) handgun, but could never find a good enough reason to buy one given the size, weight and especially cost.  It really can't be carried, except maybe in a great big chest rig.

The pistol has an MSRP of $2,143, while the ammunition costs $42 for 20 rounds of either load.  Ahhh, nope.  For that kind of money you can get a real nice 7.62 Nato 20-rd box mag auto rife (and an optic), and .308 outperforms .44 mag all day.

If I was going for a new hot rod pistol, I'd be looking for a 6" longslide 1911 in 10mm. (NOT a Glock)









But I don't need one of these things either.   


 

[solo1]

Chris, you will always lose the power argument because someone will always top it.  More power to them, pun intended.

As for me, my last buck was harvested at 42 yards with a handload of a Sierra 200 gr. hp at 1500fps out of the classic Super Blackhawk.  Through and through and the lungs were gone.

I thought that the .44 mag was good enough in Michigan and Indiana as there are no known grizzlys in either place. However, there are no longer braggin' rights with the .44 mag

OK.

(BTW, I got a big laugh out of the accuracy test on the .429. That catridge(sic) and the muzzle break (sic) works good, evidently.If you can hit a 12 inch plate at 25 yards that proves it will shoot small groups.  I placed my shot offhand, open sights, at 42 yards. I guess that means that my Super Blackhawk would shoot sub minute groups at 100 yards. )

[MarkT]

(BTW, I got a big laugh out of the accuracy test on the .429. That catridge(sic) and the muzzle break (sic) works good, evidently.If you can hit a 12 inch plate at 25 yards that proves it will shoot small groups.  I placed my shot offhand, open sights, at 42 yards. I guess that means that my Super Blackhawk would shoot sub minute groups at 100 yards. )

Nyuk nyuk.  I had the same impression.  I haven't used my S&W500 mag hunting yet because our stand is 75 yds from the corn feeder and I don't want to shoot that far with open sights on a pistol for fear of wounding or a miss.  I did have it with me however, if I got a shot half that distance.  Meanwhile my new Weatherby 300 win mag with Leupold VX-3i 3.5-10 50mm, factory guaranteed to deliver sub-1 MOA is actually delivering half that at the range, using a Caldwell Lead Sled, after I changed to a Boyd's laminated stock, fully floated it and added a Timney trigger. With factory ammo.  You can cover a 3-shot group (that's a cold-barrel group) with your thumb.

[DGS65]

I'm perfectly happy with my 9mm I own 5 different 9mm pistols (Plus a few others). I have no need for anything bigger unless I decide to take up hunting.

[solo1]

Nyuk nyuk.  I had the same impression. quote by Mark T.

I guess that passes for good shooting these days.

I have a Savage model 10 in .308 with 5R rifling, ACCUtrigger, and 18 inch heavy barrel threaded for suppressor.  I recently fitted a Boyd's laminated wood stock to it.  A Redfield (Leupold mfr) 3x9x42 scope. Three of us each shot a 3 round group of under 3/4" at 100 yards. The round was 168 BT Match Federal Gold Dot.  I have no idea what I'm going to do with it, don't hunt. Maybe just use it for braggin' purposes as the total money involved is about 550 bucks including the scope.

[Gavin_Sons]

Nyuk nyuk.  I had the same impression. quote by Mark T.

I guess that passes for good shooting these days.

I have a Savage model 10 in .308 with 5R rifling, ACCUtrigger, and 18 inch heavy barrel threaded for suppressor.  I recently fitted a Boyd's laminated wood stock to it.  A Redfield (Leupold mfr) 3x9x42 scope. Three of us each shot a 3 round group of under 3/4" at 100 yards. The round was 168 BT Match Federal Gold Dot.  I have no idea what I'm going to do with it, don't hunt. Maybe just use it for braggin' purposes as the total money involved is about 550 bucks including the scope.

I wish I could put together a rifle for 550 bucks. I just bought a 6.5 creedmoor weatherby vanguard with weather guard ceracoat and put a burris 4-14x42 scope on it.

[solo1]

Now THAT's the current excellent cailber.   Good choice!  The 6.5 Creedmore is becoming THE long range cartridge and for good reason.

I would say that you have considerably more than $550.00 invested in it.

[Gavin_Sons]

Now THAT's the current excellent cailber.   Good choice!  The 6.5 Creedmore is becoming THE long range cartridge and for good reason.

I would say that you have considerably more than $550.00 invested in it.

Yes, I put a burris 4-14x42 scope on it with tilley rings. Shooting 1.25" groups at 225 yards off a bench and sub moa with a lead sled. 225 is the furthest I have shot it so far but maybe one night this week I can get it out to 500.

[solo1]

When you're shooting beyond 200 yards, that's where it separates the men from the boys. The 6.5 Creedmore with bullets high in sectional density, have less drop and retain more energy. I no longer handload but  that would surely be even more of a winner using handloads. Lots of good bullets out there too.

[Gavin_Sons]

When you're shooting beyond 200 yards, that's where it separates the men from the boys. The 6.5 Creedmore with bullets high in sectional density, have less drop and retain more energy. I no longer handload but  that would surely be even more of a winner using handloads. Lots of good bullets out there too.

I just ordered dies for my reloader a couple days ago.  for now I'm just shooting the winchester deer season xp. I'll work up a load this winter with Sierra bullets most likley. Don't want to change much because I'll be using this gun to deer hunt this coming weekend.