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« on: December 13, 2018, 06:26:55 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/martinescobaroficial/videos/1944881555526509/


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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 06:39:38 PM »

Best thing to do is stay INSIDE your car for protection after the pileup.

Just think, is ONLY the beginning of the dreaded winter driving season.

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2018, 08:16:09 PM »

Yeah, stay in your vehicle so when the tanker explodes you can get warm, especially when your tank explodes.   crazy2

Those people are clearly exceeding the speed of safe driving in the conditions present (which can be many miles under the posted limit).
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2018, 08:36:38 PM »

Yeah, stay in your vehicle so when the tanker explodes you can get warm, especially when your tank explodes.   crazy2

Those people are clearly exceeding the speed of safe driving in the conditions present (which can be many miles under the posted limit).

I agree....looks to me like they were all going too fast for the conditions.....but then....I'm from Texas.....we don't have snow but every 10 yrs or so.    Nothing any more dangerous than a Texan driving in the snow and ice
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2018, 08:54:18 PM »

Yeah, stay in your vehicle so when the tanker explodes you can get warm, especially when your tank explodes.   crazy2

Those people are clearly exceeding the speed of safe driving in the conditions present (which can be many miles under the posted limit).

I agree....looks to me like they were all going too fast for the conditions.....but then....I'm from Texas.....we don't have snow but every 10 yrs or so.    Nothing any more dangerous than a Texan driving in the snow and ice

Well Northern VA doesn't get much either, and our local drivers aren't much better.

We have 50K rich people with the nicest brand new 4WDs and SUVs, and they think just pushing a button on the dash makes up for no skill, judgment or common sense. (or traction)

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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2018, 02:47:16 AM »

Yeah, stay in your vehicle so when the tanker explodes you can get warm, especially when your tank explodes.   crazy2

Those people are clearly exceeding the speed of safe driving in the conditions present (which can be many miles under the posted limit).

I agree....looks to me like they were all going too fast for the conditions.....but then....I'm from Texas.....we don't have snow but every 10 yrs or so.    Nothing any more dangerous than a Texan driving in the snow and ice

Well Northern VA doesn't get much either, and our local drivers aren't much better.

We have 50K rich people with the nicest brand new 4WDs and SUVs, and they think just pushing a button on the dash makes up for no skill, judgment or common sense. (or traction)



I transport all over this country in all kinds of weather conditions with rear wheel drive trucks.   When folks ask me why I don't use 4WD trucks, I explain with this; first, maintenance costs and fuel costs are higher with 4WD trucks, secondly, if the weather/road conditions are so bad I need 4WD, I'll wait until those conditions improve.  I see no reason to risk my equipment, life and your load while driving in hazardous conditions.   There are already too many idiots who think my rigs handle and brake like a Porsche or Vette.....   coolsmiley

I constantly see 4WD vehicles going way too fast for the conditions.    Apparently, the idiots driving them don't understand that 4WD does help you go in slick conditions but doesn't do squat to help you stop.   crazy2 crazy2

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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2018, 02:54:34 AM »

       Yer average 18 wheeler weighs 15 to 18 tons-EMPTY. Fully LEGALLY loaded they are 40 Tons-80000 Pounds. Too much water on the road surface 18 wheelers Can and Do hydroplane. While the last couple of years I spent in an 18 wheeler I hated the C B Radio. BUT when the weather turned delta sierra I paid attention to the cursed thing to avoid situations like shown in the video. Before I left the Profession of an Over The Road DRIVER I noticed far too many steering wheel holders attempting to be drivers. BUT-again always a but-the thing that scared the kaka outa me in my 18 wheeler and STILL scares the kaka outa me on Phatt Ghurl is the-insert yer best favorite description NOW-under the wheel in the cage and more so the steering wheel holder in the 18 wheeler. Anybody Know Where the video is from and did anyone die? Company I retired from-Heartland Express-issued shutdowns when the weather turned delta sierra and at first I used to resent it. BUT after the claims adjuster splained most if not all shippers and receivers would rather have their freight SAFE then scattered all over the highway. Think a multi million dollar load of computers. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2018, 05:16:12 AM »

... Anybody Know Where the video is from and did anyone die? ...

I didn't succeed in finding the place of the video but it appear to be January 2018.

I'd say at least one person or more died.  There was a cage went into the back of an eighteen wheeler followed by another eighteen wheeler apparently through that cage into the back of the eighteen wheeler.
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2018, 05:40:03 AM »

Dawn at O 700.
Pissing down with rain
4 lane
No center line reflectors
Nearly worn out white line to the right
Nearly worn out center line
65 mph posted limit

People zooming by my school bus doing 80 plus with NO LIGHTS ON.

We are doomed.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2018, 06:36:50 AM »

I was once told to not drive faster than you can stop. I still drive that way today, and its saved my butt more than once. if your in heavy rain, snow or fog practice it. find a mailbox or some other marker that as soon as it comes into view stop before you get to it (provided your not being tailgated). if you can't, your goring to fast!
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2018, 08:09:46 AM »

When weather gets that bad, I get away, from everybody else. You can not stop the ones behind you.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2018, 09:13:43 AM »

... Anybody Know Where the video is from and did anyone die? ...

I didn't succeed in finding the place of the video but it appear to be January 2018.

I'd say at least one person or more died.  There was a cage went into the back of an eighteen wheeler followed by another eighteen wheeler apparently through that cage into the back of the eighteen wheeler.
                Just my diesel engine weighed near on if not more than 2 tons. With ALL that INERTIA fixed stopped in place objects WILL take a beating until the Inertia subsides. There was a time when 18 wheeler DRIVERS would run off the highway instead of piling into an accident school bus etc etc, While I am Not SURE I fear that time-cept for a few old time DRIVERS-is past. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2018, 10:09:16 AM »

Yeah, stay in your vehicle so when the tanker explodes you can get warm, especially when your tank explodes.   crazy2

Those people are clearly exceeding the speed of safe driving in the conditions present (which can be many miles under the posted limit).

I agree....looks to me like they were all going too fast for the conditions.....but then....I'm from Texas.....we don't have snow but every 10 yrs or so.    Nothing any more dangerous than a Texan driving in the snow and ice

I'll raise you anyone from south of the National Capital Region. IMO, the safest place to be when there is winter weather in the South is AT HOME !!! And STAY THERE !
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2018, 10:49:24 AM »

Appears to be from 2015 per google searching. Several different numbers of vehicles reported.

"Michigan Highway I-94. Occured January 9th, 2015. So far 1 fatality has been reported."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9fI5M6_XVk
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2018, 03:14:27 PM »

A few years ago I was driving E on Hwy 20 in Iowa towards DuBuque in heavy fog.  It was really scary because you couldn't see more than a hundred feet or so yet traffic was doing over 70.  If you drove at a reasonable speed which might have been 30 - traffic behind you would likely hit you. Folks would assume they would be OK because they can see well enough to stay between the lines. But there's no way to stop in time if there's a pileup - maybe swerve into the ditch but not good in a pileup.  The only solution was to go with the flow or get the hell off and away from the highway.  I can see why people get in that situation - not wanting to abort their progress but the speed for the conditions is just insane.
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2018, 03:40:35 PM »

could be this one https://www.wbbjtv.com/2018/01/12/winter-weather-contributes-interstate-pile/
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2018, 04:21:58 PM »

A few years ago I was driving E on Hwy 20 in Iowa towards DuBuque in heavy fog.  It was really scary because you couldn't see more than a hundred feet or so yet traffic was doing over 70.  If you drove at a reasonable speed which might have been 30 - traffic behind you would likely hit you. Folks would assume they would be OK because they can see well enough to stay between the lines. But there's no way to stop in time if there's a pileup - maybe swerve into the ditch but not good in a pileup.  The only solution was to go with the flow or get the hell off and away from the highway.  I can see why people get in that situation - not wanting to abort their progress but the speed for the conditions is just insane.
          Been to caliphonyia a few times in what the local radio stations refer to as dense fog. That means you might maybe but not likely too see yer hand six inches in front of yer face. And the dumb asses STILL insist on runnin 80-85 M P H. I heard fog mentioned in cali I parked and called the company. I have avoided a couple of those multi hundred vehicle fiascos. Been delta sierra here the last 2 or 3 days. Stayed pretty close to my casa. Retired and NOW I git to pick and choose when and where and IF I go! RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2018, 05:42:42 AM »

ever notice when even a small minor wreck involving 2 cars that are clearly off the OTHER side of the road when get upon it GOING THE OTHER WAY on the interstate with clear roads ahead the gawkers create even MORE traffic jams and not even in the 2 lanes the accident occurred going the OTHER way?  Just this year happened to me not a huge interstate driver but 2 minor cars hit OTHER lanes of interstate going OTHER way and created a 1 mile backup of traffic for NO reason besides gawkers looking at the wreck. 

Never been in a major wreck (knock on wood) only 1 young lady ran a stop sign hitting us doing 35 mph us stopped at a stop sign was not paying attention as usual, but even that moved our caprice classic with brakes on 2 feet to the side giving my mom whiplash.  Her car totaled, our car dented left front quarter panel and hood but driveable home.  Gotta love old 4 door ALL METAL cars even without the airbags.

Seen ONLY 1 head on collision 60 mph each on hwy. 100 yards from my house one instantly killed.  The other in an older F150 pickup flipped over on its roof doing 55 mph severely injured.  Do not want to see another one like that ever again.   Someone yet again not paying attention crossing the centerline.
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