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The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: fudgie on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 13:50:40
Why does anyone care what his grades or anyone's grades are?  :crazy2:
good question

¿spoom

Quote from: Dave Ritsema on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 13:05:28
Quote from: ¿spoom on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 10:55:27
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I can honestly say I don't want to block anyone and I absolutely enjoy occasionally subscribing to spirited discourse. While I tend to disagree with a certain amount I see here (I think my tendencies fall more along Serk's)  I actually do appreciate hearing different points of view but many times here  it just becomes so tedious and predictable, no real new information is discussed, just the same drawings of the same battle lines. But hey, I guess if you guys actually ENJOY that then have at it. I just don't get it, thats all.
I think you do get it. It's like robo calls starting out, "I'm calling from your card company". AANNKK! Thanks for playing. Serk is a great example of one who actually DOES wish to have discourse vs dogma. I'm in agreement with many of Serk's description of Trump's shortcomings.

Bighead

Quote from: ¿spoom on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 14:10:57
Quote from: Dave Ritsema on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 13:05:28
Quote from: ¿spoom on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 10:55:27
There's a simple two-part plan for more pleasurable VRCC viewing  :angel:
Ask Mr. Meathead to change his handle to Meato.
Block all handles ending in O


I can honestly say I don't want to block anyone and I absolutely enjoy occasionally subscribing to spirited discourse. While I tend to disagree with a certain amount I see here (I think my tendencies fall more along Serk's)  I actually do appreciate hearing different points of view but many times here  it just becomes so tedious and predictable, no real new information is discussed, just the same drawings of the same battle lines. But hey, I guess if you guys actually ENJOY that then have at it. I just don't get it, thats all.
I think you do get it. It's like robo calls starting out, "I'm calling from your card company". AANNKK! Thanks for playing. Serk is a great example of one who actually DOES wish to have discourse vs dogma. I'm in agreement with many of Serk's description of Trump's shortcomings.
But are you in agreement with his strong suits?
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phideux

We can make this easy, just make all records of politicians public record. Including tax records, real estate holdings, school records, financial records of any business or charitable organizations they are part of, everything.
Let's have a truly transparent government.

Jess from VA

I disagree with that.  Citizen politicians are still entitled to all the protections every one else is.

It's hard enough to get good honest people to run as it is, without requiring everyone running to give up any semblance of personal privacy. 


phideux

Quote from: Jess from VA on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 19:04:45
I disagree with that.  Citizen politicians are still entitled to all the protections every one else is.

It's hard enough to get good honest people to run as it is, without requiring everyone running to give up any semblance of personal privacy. 



I disagree with that, The government can dig into and access any information about us at any time, we should be able to do the same with our Government.

scooperhsd

Quote from: phideux on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 21:51:27
Quote from: Jess from VA on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 19:04:45
I disagree with that.  Citizen politicians are still entitled to all the protections every one else is.

It's hard enough to get good honest people to run as it is, without requiring everyone running to give up any semblance of personal privacy. 



I disagree with that, The government can dig into and access any information about us at any time, we should be able to do the same with our Government.

+1. If you have something to hide, then don't run for office.

fudgie

Quote from: scooperhsd on Sat 02, Mar 2019, 09:32:24
Quote from: phideux on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 21:51:27
Quote from: Jess from VA on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 19:04:45
I disagree with that.  Citizen politicians are still entitled to all the protections every one else is.

It's hard enough to get good honest people to run as it is, without requiring everyone running to give up any semblance of personal privacy. 



I disagree with that, The government can dig into and access any information about us at any time, we should be able to do the same with our Government.

+1. If you have something to hide, then don't run for office.
Everyone has a past. Its good or bad depending on who is looking at it.


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Quote from: fudgie on Sat 02, Mar 2019, 11:12:51
Quote from: scooperhsd on Sat 02, Mar 2019, 09:32:24
Quote from: phideux on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 21:51:27
Quote from: Jess from VA on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 19:04:45
I disagree with that.  Citizen politicians are still entitled to all the protections every one else is.

It's hard enough to get good honest people to run as it is, without requiring everyone running to give up any semblance of personal privacy. 



True....but some pasts of people are much much worse than others, and too many of these people are in powerful political positions. Obviously I'm not referring to the President, his past is no more different than many, and perhaps even some or many here.

I disagree with that, The government can dig into and access any information about us at any time, we should be able to do the same with our Government.

+1. If you have something to hide, then don't run for office.
Everyone has a past. Its good or bad depending on who is looking at it.
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In 1969, Hillary Rodham wrote a 92-page senior thesis for Wellesley College about community organizer Saul Alinsky entitled "There Is Only the Fight . . . : An Analysis of the Alinsky Model." The thesis is now available.[1]

While the work by Rodham as a college student was the subject of much speculation in articles and biographies of Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 1990s, access to the thesis was limited by the college, at the request of the Clinton White House, during her time as first lady.

Rodham researched the thesis by interviewing Alinsky and others, and by conducting visits to low-income areas of Chicago (nearby to her hometown, Park Ridge, Illinois) and observing Community Action Programs in those areas.[2] Her thesis adviser was Wellesley professor of political science Alan Schechter

The thesis was sympathetic to Alinsky's critiques of government antipoverty programs, but criticized Alinsky's methods as largely ineffective, all the while describing Alinsky's personality as appealing.[4] The thesis sought to fit Alinsky into a line of American social activists, including Eugene V. Debs, Martin Luther King, Jr., and Walt Whitman.

In early 1993, the White House requested that Wellesley not release the thesis to anyone.[4] Wellesley complied, instituting a new rule that closed access to the thesis of any sitting U.S. president or First lady, a rule that in practice applied only to Rodham.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis

It was during Alinsky's involvement in organizing the Chicago Seven riots that Hillary Rodham became actively involved with Alinsky. Rodham first became aware of Alinsky in April 1962 at the age of 14. At that time, her Park Ridge, Illinois youth minister Don Jones had introduced her to a version of Methodism which drew parallels between Marxist utopianism and liberal Christianity.

At Yale, Rodham became affiliated with the radical Yale Law Review of Law and Social Action, cofounded by Robert Borosage of the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), a Communist think tank linked to domestic terrorist groups such as the Weathermen and Venceremos Brigade and to Soviet, East German, and Cuban intelligence agents. In 1970, through her work for the Review, Rodham became involved in defending Black Panther members on trial for murdering a police officer. She met the Panthers' attorney Charles Garry, who had defended the Chicago Seven, and Garry's assistant Robert Treuhaft, former attorney for the California Communist Party.
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¿spoom

Quote from: Bighead on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 18:11:44
Quote from: ¿spoom on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 14:10:57
Quote from: Dave Ritsema on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 13:05:28
Quote from: ¿spoom on Fri 01, Mar 2019, 10:55:27
There's a simple two-part plan for more pleasurable VRCC viewing  :angel:
Ask Mr. Meathead to change his handle to Meato.
Block all handles ending in O


I can honestly say I don't want to block anyone and I absolutely enjoy occasionally subscribing to spirited discourse. While I tend to disagree with a certain amount I see here (I think my tendencies fall more along Serk's)  I actually do appreciate hearing different points of view but many times here  it just becomes so tedious and predictable, no real new information is discussed, just the same drawings of the same battle lines. But hey, I guess if you guys actually ENJOY that then have at it. I just don't get it, thats all.
I think you do get it. It's like robo calls starting out, "I'm calling from your card company". AANNKK! Thanks for playing. Serk is a great example of one who actually DOES wish to have discourse vs dogma. I'm in agreement with many of Serk's description of Trump's shortcomings.
But are you in agreement with his strong suits?
Of course, I'd vote for him again tomorrow, if that was election day.