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Understanding the dynamic

Started by f6john, Thu 28, May 2020, 08:52:07

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Ken aka Oil Burner

Boston is anarchy tonight as well. They just said that the National Guard is on their way. Sadly, I'm sure they've been given strict orders not to engage, just as the police were.


Jersey mike

There's a small beach community 4 miles from our house call Point Pleasant Beach where Black Lives Matter will have a protest today at 3 pm.

Don't know where it will lead, or what it will turn into. I doubt they will stay assembled in the large public parking lot. They could make their way up to the boardwalk which is a couple hundred feet away or they could march down the road that runs parallel to the ocean and head north into a neighborhood with small homes or south with basically the same with small businesses mixed in. If they march about 2 miles south they will get into some expensive real estate, a town called Bayhead and then Mantoloking.

Marching west about 1/2 mile will lead them into downtown and tons of small shops and businesses and residential.

This is an white community. Why march here. It's a summer community, small in winter large in summer.


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Quote from: Jersey mike on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 06:04:50

This is an white community. Why march here. It's a summer community, small in winter large in summer.


That's the reason right there.


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RP#62

So I'm thinking that if you want to hold church services, you'd probably be ok smashing in the windows on the Walmart and holding services there.  Police seem to be ok with that.  Church going only seems to be ok if you're going there to burn it.

-RP
 

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Valkorado

Quote from: Britman on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 10:46:35
Looting a NIKE store in Santa Monica.

That must sting. I hope Colin K. protests the looters  :D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8375985/Armed-vigilante-tries-stop-bank-robbery-Santa-Monica.html

I knew it wouldn't take long for the good ol' boys to come out of the woodwork.  'merica, Baby!   :cooldude:
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f6john

Beginning to look like America needs a 21st century version of the minutemen. I know, that could easily get out of hand if it was infiltrated by Antifa  or the like.

shadowsoftime

#90
These cities need Martial Law. This has to stop, our PRESIDENT was taken to a bunker.
In OKC yesterday and last night a few thousand protesters marching, no looting or burning.

scooperhsd

Quote from: shadowsoftime on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 11:51:23
These cities need Marshal Law. This has to stop, our PRESIDENT was taken to a bunker.
In OKC yesterday and last night a few thousand protesters marching, no looting or burning.

You mean MARTIAL law, and I'm not so sure about that being a good idea. It usually means that the military is providing law enforcement - USA has a LONG tradition of NOT using this except in emergency situations for a short duration specified purpose. Eg. post hurricane strike in New Orleans (Katrina).
Jess (and probably Evan (Oss)) should be able to give us the when and where this should be used (sparingly if at all).

rocketray

the last FBI stats I recall seeing said 20,000 white women are raped by black men every year..and zero black women are raped by white men every year....a 59 y.o. white woman--a friend of friends of my wife was shot in the back of her head killing her as she pulled into her home in Preston Hollow last week after shopping ..a 16 y.o. black male has been arrested...little media coverage on that one,.. huh?..who owns the media? what is their agenda?..a beat down of the Anglo-Saxon male?? Nah, of course not..the younger ones mostly who don't study history will have a hard time ..if ever putting it together....I'm beginning to think the Attic Rat put a cam  in my bike as it definitely has a lope it never had before..launched properly I can spin the rear tire all the way  thru 2nd gear..I need a tech person to tell me how to upload it to here--it's fun on YOUTUBE to listen to all the different motors and the sounds they make--the in-line Honda 6's do pretty good but my Valk has a little bit more raspiness to it. Here in Dallas last week here in Dallas on that new 205 h.p. Beemer some girl got busted big time running 150 mph in a chase with the police-- :'( she took an exit that was a dead end apparently..2 felonies the News said

shadowsoftime

Quote from: scooperhsd on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 13:11:30
Quote from: shadowsoftime on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 11:51:23
These cities need Marshal Law. This has to stop, our PRESIDENT was taken to a bunker.
In OKC yesterday and last night a few thousand protesters marching, no looting or burning.

You mean MARTIAL law, and I'm not so sure about that being a good idea. It usually means that the military is providing law enforcement - USA has a LONG tradition of NOT using this except in emergency situations for a short duration specified purpose. Eg. post hurricane strike in New Orleans (Katrina).
Jess (and probably Evan (Oss)) should be able to give us the when and where this should be used (sparingly if at all).

Fixed it, if this is not emergency times I don't know what would be, destroying our Country

shadowsoftime

[Floyd's] family has been notified by the owner of a club that Derek Chauvin was an off-duty police officer while George Floyd was a security guard. And so they had to overlap," Crump said on CBS News' "Face The Nation." "That is going to be an interesting aspect to this case and hopefully upgrading these charges to first-degree murder because we believe he knew who George Floyd was."

Oss

Heaven forbid I should never ever hear Martial Law declared

This is not a complete breakdown of society

This is however a perfect storm of people with no memory and no honor living in cities and those ANTIFA and leftist anarchists stirring the pot.

We need intelligence and fast so govmt can nip these anarchists in the bud

IMHO the ones who need removal with severe prejudice are both white and black antifa coming into a community with the agenda of hate.

As for Floyd's murder,  yes a tragedy, an arrest and prosecution are underway.  Better to go for the sure conviction 20 yr sentence is the max.  Do not need more riot if no conviction on weak 1st degree
and fed can pile on a charge after as well.

YMMV

More black people are working when this year started than EVER in our history

Why is this forgotten so quickly?

Rioters should be arrested. Upon conviction their right to vote is forfeit as a felon. That is a lot of democratic votes lost forever. Round them all up with the national guard and prosecute them all

You can call out the guard without martial law. It has been done many many times

Water cannons and sonic cannons not bullets to break up riots

Damnation I cant get a haircut or go to worship but these freaks can riot with no consequence

If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
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Jersey mike

Quote from: Britman on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 08:13:48
Quote from: Jersey mike on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 06:04:50

This is an white community. Why march here. It's a summer community, small in winter large in summer.


That's the reason right there.

It makes no sense though, if there is 5000 people living there all year it's a lot. There hasn't been any police issues there. I doubt there's more than 30 officers in the town. It's a tourist town. Small little shops and businesses, boardwalk rides and concessions. There are some all year businesses but the town is a quiet little town.

It's almost like protesting in the middle of a wheat field.

scooperhsd

Quote from: Jersey mike on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 16:07:09
Quote from: Britman on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 08:13:48
Quote from: Jersey mike on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 06:04:50

This is an white community. Why march here. It's a summer community, small in winter large in summer.


That's the reason right there.

It makes no sense though, if there is 5000 people living there all year it's a lot. There hasn't been any police issues there. I doubt there's more than 30 officers in the town. It's a tourist town. Small little shops and businesses, boardwalk rides and concessions. There are some all year businesses but the town is a quiet little town.

It's almost like protesting in the middle of a wheat field.

I'd bet there are bigger wheat fields out here than the square mileage of your town ;D

Jersey mike

Quote from: scooperhsd on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 16:15:08
Quote from: Jersey mike on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 16:07:09
Quote from: Britman on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 08:13:48
Quote from: Jersey mike on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 06:04:50

This is an white community. Why march here. It's a summer community, small in winter large in summer.


That's the reason right there.

It makes no sense though, if there is 5000 people living there all year it's a lot. There hasn't been any police issues there. I doubt there's more than 30 officers in the town. It's a tourist town. Small little shops and businesses, boardwalk rides and concessions. There are some all year businesses but the town is a quiet little town.

It's almost like protesting in the middle of a wheat field.

I'd bet there are bigger wheat fields out here than the square mileage of your town ;D

I'll bet your right it's just over 4sq.mi.

My daughter told me she heard the protest was canceled. I can't find anything in the news. I hope she is right. But I also have heard an ANTIFA rally is scheduled for tomorrow about 15 miles from here at a Target shopping parking lot. That's a much bigger town.

I hope that's not true.

Robert

#99
Heard something interesting George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, the former police officer charged with killing Floyd, worked security at the same local club for much of the year before their fatal encounter on a Minneapolis street last week. The owner of El Nuevo Rodeo said the two were in close proximity once a week for their Tuesday night shifts, though she did not know if they ever actually met while working at the club.

"We would wrap up at the end of the night and do a review," Santamaria said. They'd discuss the times Chauvin was called in to the club to remove a patron, or dealt with someone outside the club.

Maya Santamaria said she had been paying Chauvin, when he was off-duty, to sit in his squad car outside El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years. She said Floyd worked as a security guard inside the club frequently in the last year. In particular, they both worked on Tuesday nights, when the club had a popular weekly dance competition.  


Just saying if someone worked as bouncer wouldn't you think they could handle something like what Chauvin did to him.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Moonshot_1

Quote from: Robert on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 17:41:33
Heard something interesting George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, the former police officer charged with killing Floyd, worked security at the same local club for much of the year before their fatal encounter on a Minneapolis street last week. The owner of El Nuevo Rodeo said the two were in close proximity once a week for their Tuesday night shifts, though she did not know if they ever actually met while working at the club.

"We would wrap up at the end of the night and do a review," Santamaria said. They'd discuss the times Chauvin was called in to the club to remove a patron, or dealt with someone outside the club.

Maya Santamaria said she had been paying Chauvin, when he was off-duty, to sit in his squad car outside El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years. She said Floyd worked as a security guard inside the club frequently in the last year. In particular, they both worked on Tuesday nights, when the club had a popular weekly dance competition.  


Just saying if someone worked as bouncer wouldn't you think they could handle something like what Chauvin did to him.

Actually no, I don't think they could "handle" something like that. Maybe if he wasn't handcuffed and surrounded by cops with one on his neck for more than 5 or 6 min then yeah, maybe.
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Robert

Quote from: Moonshot_1 on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 18:04:52

Actually no, I don't think they could "handle" something like that. Maybe if he wasn't handcuffed and surrounded by cops with one on his neck for more than 5 or 6 min then yeah, maybe.

They knew each other, they worked together, there was history, I think that could be a contributing factor.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Valkorado

Quote from: Moonshot_1 on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 18:04:52
Quote from: Robert on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 17:41:33
Heard something interesting George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, the former police officer charged with killing Floyd, worked security at the same local club for much of the year before their fatal encounter on a Minneapolis street last week. The owner of El Nuevo Rodeo said the two were in close proximity once a week for their Tuesday night shifts, though she did not know if they ever actually met while working at the club.

"We would wrap up at the end of the night and do a review," Santamaria said. They'd discuss the times Chauvin was called in to the club to remove a patron, or dealt with someone outside the club.

Maya Santamaria said she had been paying Chauvin, when he was off-duty, to sit in his squad car outside El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years. She said Floyd worked as a security guard inside the club frequently in the last year. In particular, they both worked on Tuesday nights, when the club had a popular weekly dance competition.  


Just saying if someone worked as bouncer wouldn't you think they could handle something like what Chauvin did to him.

Actually no, I don't think they could "handle" something like that. Maybe if he wasn't handcuffed and surrounded by cops with one on his neck for more than 5 or 6 min then yeah, maybe.

Agree.  Asphyxiation is tough to handle!
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


Robert

Quote from: Valkorado on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 18:34:41
Quote from: Moonshot_1 on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 18:04:52
Quote from: Robert on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 17:41:33
Heard something interesting George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, the former police officer charged with killing Floyd, worked security at the same local club for much of the year before their fatal encounter on a Minneapolis street last week. The owner of El Nuevo Rodeo said the two were in close proximity once a week for their Tuesday night shifts, though she did not know if they ever actually met while working at the club.

"We would wrap up at the end of the night and do a review," Santamaria said. They'd discuss the times Chauvin was called in to the club to remove a patron, or dealt with someone outside the club.

Maya Santamaria said she had been paying Chauvin, when he was off-duty, to sit in his squad car outside El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years. She said Floyd worked as a security guard inside the club frequently in the last year. In particular, they both worked on Tuesday nights, when the club had a popular weekly dance competition. 


Just saying if someone worked as bouncer wouldn't you think they could handle something like what Chauvin did to him.

Actually no, I don't think they could "handle" something like that. Maybe if he wasn't handcuffed and surrounded by cops with one on his neck for more than 5 or 6 min then yeah, maybe.

Agree.  Asphyxiation is tough to handle!


He did not die of Asphyxiation there were no injuries either from his encounter.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Robert

#104
Update (1850ET): In his brief remarks, Trump said he would deploy military resources to quell violence and unrest - a move with little precedent in the last few decades - and insisted he was an "ally to the peaceful protesters" and that his administration is "committed to justice" for the Floyd family.

    TRUMP SAYS HIS FIRST DUTY IS TO DEFEND COUNTRY, PEOPLE
    TRUMP SAYS ADMIN. IS COMMITTED TO JUSTICE FOR FLOYD FAMILY
    TRUMP SAYS HE'S AN ALLY OF PEACEFUL PROTESTERS
    TRUMP SAYS VIOLENCE NOT ACT OF PEACEFUL PROTESTS
    TRUMP SAYS INSTANCES OF VIOLENCE `ACTS OF DOMESTIC TERROR’
    TRUMP: MOBILIZING CIVILIAN, MILITARY RESOURCES TO STOP RIOTING
    TRUMP SAYS HE RECOMMENDED GOVERNORS DEPLOY NATIONAL GUARD
    TRUMP SAYS HE TOLD GOVS. TO DEPLOY GUARD TO `DOMINATE' STREETS
    TRUMP SAYS HE WILL DEPLOY MILITARY IF CITIES, STATES WON'T ACT
    TRUMP SAYS HE'S DISPATCHING `THOUSANDS' OF ARMED SOLDIERS


Mayor Bill de Blasio’s Daughter Arrested At Protest In Manhattan
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."

Valkorado

#105
Quote from: Robert on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 18:40:01
Quote from: Valkorado on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 18:34:41
Quote from: Moonshot_1 on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 18:04:52
Quote from: Robert on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 17:41:33
Heard something interesting George Floyd and Derek Chauvin, the former police officer charged with killing Floyd, worked security at the same local club for much of the year before their fatal encounter on a Minneapolis street last week. The owner of El Nuevo Rodeo said the two were in close proximity once a week for their Tuesday night shifts, though she did not know if they ever actually met while working at the club.

"We would wrap up at the end of the night and do a review," Santamaria said. They'd discuss the times Chauvin was called in to the club to remove a patron, or dealt with someone outside the club.

Maya Santamaria said she had been paying Chauvin, when he was off-duty, to sit in his squad car outside El Nuevo Rodeo for 17 years. She said Floyd worked as a security guard inside the club frequently in the last year. In particular, they both worked on Tuesday nights, when the club had a popular weekly dance competition.  


Just saying if someone worked as bouncer wouldn't you think they could handle something like what Chauvin did to him.

Actually no, I don't think they could "handle" something like that. Maybe if he wasn't handcuffed and surrounded by cops with one on his neck for more than 5 or 6 min then yeah, maybe.

Agree.  Asphyxiation is tough to handle!


He did not die of Asphyxiation there were no injuries either from his encounter.

Like nobody has died from C19.   :roll:   Mkchael Baden is considered one of the best forensic pathologists in the field.  I even heard Floyd may have had hard drugs in his system at the time.  Don't hold me to that.  But even if that is true, the drugs didn't cause the neck and back compression.

On a side note, I HATE the spell correction word replacement on my tablet.  I have to edit damn near every post!   :tickedoff:
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


Robert

#106
Quote from: Valkorado on Mon 01, Jun 2020, 18:55:34

On a side note, I HATE the spell correction word replacement on my tablet.  I have to edit damn near every post!   :tickedoff:

:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: dictation is your friend.

You'll enjoy this video

https://twitter.com/i/status/1267494617349578765

everyone needs to see this.

Former Black Lives Matter Ferguson Organizer, Chaziel Sunz Exposes Democrats, Antifa, BLM & More
https://youtu.be/oR8SSPxVxSI

He makes some very interesting claims. He says it is so much bigger than race. They are going to use you n@@@@@ and you are going to get your head blown off, doing their work.
"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that."