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Success, yes or no?

Started by f6john, Tue 26, Jan 2021, 20:13:34

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f6john

The creation of the P@M board. I think it's the best move ever. I skim it from time to time and enjoy the subject matter of the general board much better.

What say you?

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Serk

So far so good... I also find myself self policing better, I just wrote up a scathing reply to another thread in the General forum, realized it wasn't in the PAM forum (Yet) and just hit the back button, no need to push it over the edge...

Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



IBA# 22107 
VRCC# 7976
VRCCDS# 226

1998 Valkyrie Standard
2008 Gold Wing

Taxation is theft.

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The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Serk on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 20:29:54
So far so good... I also find myself self policing better, I just wrote up a scathing reply to another thread in the General forum, realized it wasn't in the PAM forum (Yet) and just hit the back button, no need to push it over the edge...


scathing ?  ;)

Serk

Quote from: meathead on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 20:31:55
Quote from: Serk on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 20:29:54
So far so good... I also find myself self policing better, I just wrote up a scathing reply to another thread in the General forum, realized it wasn't in the PAM forum (Yet) and just hit the back button, no need to push it over the edge...


scathing ?  ;)

Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



IBA# 22107 
VRCC# 7976
VRCCDS# 226

1998 Valkyrie Standard
2008 Gold Wing

Taxation is theft.

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Valkorado

#5
 :cooldude:

It's good.  I have nary a post there thus far.
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


Valker

I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.

Serk

Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

I don't know if the admins want to deal with this, but it should be relatively simple to set up a permission group for members who wish to be excluded entirely from that forum, and put said members, per request, into said group so that that forum totally disappears for them.

Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



IBA# 22107 
VRCC# 7976
VRCCDS# 226

1998 Valkyrie Standard
2008 Gold Wing

Taxation is theft.

μολὼν λαβέ

Moonshot_1

Quote from: Serk on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:14:36
Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

I don't know if the admins want to deal with this, but it should be relatively simple to set up a permission group for members who wish to be excluded entirely from that forum, and put said members, per request, into said group so that that forum totally disappears for them.



Yeah. And set up mandatory nap times and verify that everyone has disinfected their computer before logging on to the site. A Safe Space forum too. Need a Safe Space forum.

Geez folks, a little adulting would go a long ways here.

The PaM board seems to be an ok addition. Given the current political climate I would say we will see a member migration to it in terms of posting and use and eventually becoming the de facto general board. Not right off, but in the coming months.
Mike Luken 


Cherokee, Ia.
Former Iowa Patriot Guard Ride Captain

Oss

If you don't know where your going any road will take you there
George Harrison

When you come to the fork in the road, take it
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Valker

Quote from: Moonshot_1 on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:30:55
Yeah. And set up mandatory nap times and verify that everyone has disinfected their computer before logging on to the site. A Safe Space forum too. Need a Safe Space forum.
Geez folks, a little adulting would go a long ways here.

Yep, it sure would! :uglystupid2:
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.

msb

Yes. Just from the number of noticeably more  interesting and respectfully discussed posts on here (even some political-themed ones) since the PaM board was created, I'd say it's been a success so far. I'm confident that enough members lead interesting enough lives and are still passionate about Valkyries and riding, that this General board will not only sustain, but thrive. Nothing wrong with hotly debated political discussions, and there's also nothing wrong with having a separate board for them on here  :cooldude:
Mike

'99 Red  & Black IS

John Schmidt

Well, I for one stopped by there shortly after it was created. I don't plan to go back.  >:(

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: Serk on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 20:41:09
Quote from: meathead on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 20:31:55
Quote from: Serk on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 20:29:54
So far so good... I also find myself self policing better, I just wrote up a scathing reply to another thread in the General forum, realized it wasn't in the PAM forum (Yet) and just hit the back button, no need to push it over the edge...


scathing ?  ;)


Is this due to the Neanderthal DNA you discovered ?

JakeAustin

The P&M board was a genius move. For what it's worth, I give it a thumbs up to the creators of VRCC.
1999 Fast Black Super Valk
2000 Blue/Silver I/S

Jess from VA

#15
I never go to any specific sub boards.  I navigate this site from these two headings*.  One is everything new in any thread I've posted in, and the other is everything new in any thread I haven't posted in (but both include every sub board there is, all mixed up).  So PaM makes no difference at all to my navigating here.  Though I plan to try to remember to be just a bit nicer on general than PaM (but not too nice).  

*
Show unread posts since last visit.
Show new replies to your posts.



DirtyDan

Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

SIMPLE !!!

don't click on it

Dan
Do it while you can. I did.... it my way

Dave Ritsema

I can honestly say I have not visited it. I figured if that is the focal point for all the crap that I had come to detest from the main board I am happy to leave it there and hope it stays there.
VRCC 2879



Lake City Honda Warsaw IN

Valker

Quote from: DirtyDan on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 01:53:51
Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

SIMPLE !!!

don't click on it

Dan

Well Duh. My old eyes have a difficult time seeing which board each unread post is on. If I can see it's on P&M I can just not click it. It'd be easier if that board just didn't show up on my list of unread posts.
Thanks.
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.

DDT (12)

Quote from: Dave Ritsema on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 06:06:36
I can honestly say I have not visited it. I figured if that is the focal point for all the crap that I had come to detest from the main board I am happy to leave it there and hope it stays there.




Hey Dave,

Dilly, Dilly!!!



DDT
Don't just dream it... LIVE IT!

See ya down the road...

h13man

Quote from: Dave Ritsema on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 06:06:36
I can honestly say I have not visited it. I figured if that is the focal point for all the crap that I had come to detest from the main board I am happy to leave it there and hope it stays there.

:cooldude: :cooldude: :cooldude:

scooperhsd


Serk

Quote from: DirtyDan on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 01:53:51
Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

SIMPLE !!!

don't click on it

Dan

I think we're seeing the differences between the two main ways of consuming the forums.

Some people click on the individual boards that interest them and see what's in them. For those people it's very easy to just not click on the PAM board.

Some people use the "Show new posts" feature:

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?action=unread

This shows all new posts on all forums available to that user.

For those people, having the option to have the PAM board hidden from them would be advantageous, if they so choose.

Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



IBA# 22107 
VRCC# 7976
VRCCDS# 226

1998 Valkyrie Standard
2008 Gold Wing

Taxation is theft.

μολὼν λαβέ

f6john

Quote from: Serk on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 09:39:15
Quote from: DirtyDan on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 01:53:51
Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

SIMPLE !!!

don't click on it

Dan

I think we're seeing the differences between the two main ways of consuming the forums.

Some people click on the individual boards that interest them and see what's in them. For those people it's very easy to just not click on the PAM board.

Some people use the "Show new posts" feature:

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?action=unread

This shows all new posts on all forums available to that user.

For those people, having the option to have the PAM board hidden from them would be advantageous, if they so choose.



You are right. I have never used the all new posts option. It's pretty easy for me to figure out what's new since the news ones are at the top of each forums page. Therefore I can go for days without even a glance at the content of the PAM forum.

The emperor has no clothes

To be honest, I never thought a separate board would work. But, it sure seems to ! Yes, we could skip over posts we don't want to read. But it sure is nice to be able to scroll thru the General Board with a morning coffee, and not get bombarded with "stuff". I go over and read some of the menopause board. Sometimes I comment, sometimes I post a topic that might turn ugly. I like this setup a lot better. I hope it sticks.

msb

Quote from: meathead on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 12:13:10
To be honest, I never thought a separate board would work. But, it sure seems to ! Yes, we could skip over posts we don't want to read. But it sure is nice to be able to scroll thru the General Board with a morning coffee, and not get bombarded with "stuff". I go over and read some of the menopause board. Sometimes I comment, sometimes I post a topic that might turn ugly. I like this setup a lot better. I hope it sticks.
Like I referenced in my earlier post Rob, you gotta have a bit more faith that folks on here have interesting enough lives outside of their own political or ideological convictions, that this board can sustain  itself without the endless debate on those topics. BTW, while your at it on here enjoying the new friendlier General board, I'll be looking for that photo proof on the Blue & White ;)
Mike

'99 Red  & Black IS

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: msb on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 12:40:37
Quote from: meathead on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 12:13:10
To be honest, I never thought a separate board would work. But, it sure seems to ! Yes, we could skip over posts we don't want to read. But it sure is nice to be able to scroll thru the General Board with a morning coffee, and not get bombarded with "stuff". I go over and read some of the menopause board. Sometimes I comment, sometimes I post a topic that might turn ugly. I like this setup a lot better. I hope it sticks.
Like I referenced in my earlier post Rob, you gotta have a bit more faith that folks on here have interesting enough lives outside of their own political or ideological convictions, that this board can sustain  itself without the endless debate on those topics. BTW, while your at it on here enjoying the new friendlier General board, I'll be looking for that photo proof on the Blue & White ;)
Are you trying to shame me Mike ?  ;D

vanagon40

Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

If one does not log in, the PaM Board is invisible. But many of the features of the other boards are also disabled.

Valker

Quote from: vanagon40 on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 14:33:21
Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

If one does not log in, the PaM Board is invisible. But many of the features of the other boards are also disabled.

Hence, my statement.
I ride a motorcycle because nothing transports me as quickly from where I am to who I am.

BigInSeattle

Yes I would say the idea  of creating a separate board behind authentication for people to freely discuss controversial ideas has worked out well.  ;)

The public face of the club has been cleaned up and the general board is more lively than ever with people not afraid to post for fear of politicization.

I know there was some angst concerning the general board seeing fewer posts but there opposite seems to have happened!

f6gal

#30
Quote from: Valker on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 06:31:21
Quote from: DirtyDan on Wed 27, Jan 2021, 01:53:51
Quote from: Valker on Tue 26, Jan 2021, 21:10:22
I wish we could put the whole P&M board on ignore.

SIMPLE !!!

don't click on it

Dan

Well Duh. My old eyes have a difficult time seeing which board each unread post is on. If I can see it's on P&M I can just not click it. It'd be easier if that board just didn't show up on my list of unread posts.
Thanks.

Not everyone peruses the board with those functions.  Dan probably didn't realize you meant from your unread posts.


You can't do much about the length of your life, so focus on the width.

J.Mencalice

#31
It is too early to deem it a success, but the hope from myself and others is that it can be a double thumbs up as time goes by.  It's certainly an improvement over the previous cluster flock. :evil:

In keeping the "coyotes" in their walled-off portion of the VRCC website, to howl and yowl at the moon, fear the shadows of the boogeymen, the soul stealers, the world wide conspiracy spooks, and all the hobgoblins on the planet;  it allows the sensible members left to converse about motorcycles, life being generally good, and the harmonious efforts of normal individuals to make the atmosphere a tiny bit civil and amenable towards each other.

Frankly, my impression of  it is that it might have been named "The H&H Board".  
Any guesses as to what that may stand for? :drink:
"The truth is, most of us discover where we are headed when we arrive." Bill Watterson

Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance...

The emperor has no clothes

Quote from: J.Mencalice on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 12:24:11
It is too early to deem it a success, but the hope from myself and others is that it can be a double thumbs up as time goes by.  It's certainly an improvement over the previous cluster flock. :evil:

In keeping the "coyotes" in their walled-off portion of the VRCC website, to howl and yowl at the moon, the shadows of the boogiemen, the soul stealers, the world wide conspiracy spooks, and all the hobgoblins on the planet;  it allows the sensible members left to converse about motorcycles, life being generally good, and the harmonious efforts of normal individuals to make the atmosphere a tiny bit civil and amenable towards each other.

Frankly, my impression of  it is that it might have been named "The H&H Board". 
Any guesses as to what that may stand for? :drink:
Hogs and Heifers ?

Valkorado

#33
Quote from: J.Mencalice on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 12:24:11
It is too early to deem it a success, but the hope from myself and others is that it can be a double thumbs up as time goes by.  It's certainly an improvement over the previous cluster flock. :evil:

In keeping the "coyotes" in their walled-off portion of the VRCC website, to howl and yowl at the moon, the shadows of the boogiemen, the soul stealers, the world wide conspiracy spooks, and all the hobgoblins on the planet;  it allows the sensible members left to converse about motorcycles, life being generally good, and the harmonious efforts of normal individuals to make the atmosphere a tiny bit civil and amenable towards each other.

Frankly, my impression of  it is that it might have been named "The H&H Board".  
Any guesses as to what that may stand for? :drink:

Hem and haw?  Hoot and holler?
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


J.Mencalice

Quote from: meathead on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 12:27:39
Quote from: J.Mencalice on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 12:24:11
It is too early to deem it a success, but the hope from myself and others is that it can be a double thumbs up as time goes by.  It's certainly an improvement over the previous cluster flock. :evil:

In keeping the "coyotes" in their walled-off portion of the VRCC website, to howl and yowl at the moon, the shadows of the boogiemen, the soul stealers, the world wide conspiracy spooks, and all the hobgoblins on the planet;  it allows the sensible members left to converse about motorcycles, life being generally good, and the harmonious efforts of normal individuals to make the atmosphere a tiny bit civil and amenable towards each other.

Frankly, my impression of  it is that it might have been named "The H&H Board". 
Any guesses as to what that may stand for? :drink:
Hogs and Heifers ?
Nope, but thanks for playing!
"The truth is, most of us discover where we are headed when we arrive." Bill Watterson

Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance...

Valkorado

Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good,
there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood?
- John Prine

97 Tourer "Silver Bullet"
01 Interstate "Ruby"


J.Mencalice

Quote from: Valkorado on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 13:22:06
Quote from: J.Mencalice on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 12:24:11
It is too early to deem it a success, but the hope from myself and others is that it can be a double thumbs up as time goes by.  It's certainly an improvement over the previous cluster flock. :evil:

In keeping the "coyotes" in their walled-off portion of the VRCC website, to howl and yowl at the moon, the shadows of the boogiemen, the soul stealers, the world wide conspiracy spooks, and all the hobgoblins on the planet;  it allows the sensible members left to converse about motorcycles, life being generally good, and the harmonious efforts of normal individuals to make the atmosphere a tiny bit civil and amenable towards each other.

Frankly, my impression of  it is that it might have been named "The H&H Board".  
Any guesses as to what that may stand for? :drink:

Hem and haw?  Hoot and holler?
Nope, and thank you for playing!
"The truth is, most of us discover where we are headed when we arrive." Bill Watterson

Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance...

J.Mencalice

"The truth is, most of us discover where we are headed when we arrive." Bill Watterson

Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance...

J.Mencalice

#38
Quote from: J.Mencalice on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 13:50:22
Quote from: meathead on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 12:27:39
Quote from: J.Mencalice on Fri 29, Jan 2021, 12:24:11
It is too early to deem it a success, but the hope from myself and others is that it can be a double thumbs up as time goes by.  It's certainly an improvement over the previous cluster flock. :evil:

In keeping the "coyotes" in their walled-off portion of the VRCC website, to howl and yowl at the moon, the shadows of the boogiemen, the soul stealers, the world wide conspiracy spooks, and all the hobgoblins on the planet;  it allows the sensible members left to converse about motorcycles, life being generally good, and the harmonious efforts of normal individuals to make the atmosphere a tiny bit civil and amenable towards each other.

Frankly, my impression of  it is that it might have been named "The H&H Board".  
Any guesses as to what that may stand for? :drink:

Hogs and Heifers ?
Nope, but thanks for playing!
This guy absolutely has the answer! :crazy2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTmOQ05wok
Full screen, please.
"The truth is, most of us discover where we are headed when we arrive." Bill Watterson

Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance...