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« on: October 27, 2021, 07:14:13 AM » |
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What genius at Honda decided that a critical path part for the SIDE STAND shouldn't be on the parts fiche for the SIDE STAND but should instead be on the parts fiche page for the FRAME?!?!?! Ugh.... Third order placed, hopefully with the right freaking part this time...  |
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Serk
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2021, 07:28:08 AM » |
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So little background on my rant, here's the Parts Fiche file for "SIDE STAND". Trying to replace the spring stud and spring, I've so far ordered the red circled parts. The spring was obvious, but the stud, well... My mistake for assuming they'd put all the SIDE STAND parts on the SIDE STAND fiche.....  But no, Honda decided to put THAT part of the SIDE STAND assembly on the FRAME parts fiche, HOPEFULLY circled below...  Anyway, I'm sure this has been discussed on the Tech forum, but us sand box dwellers might have missed it.... Ugh... Good thing I have a spare Valkyrie! |
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2021, 07:42:29 AM » |
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Lol. Ya it took me a while to figure that one out as well. I’m still using the bolt I made as a temp fix when mine broke around ten years ago.  |
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2021, 07:50:53 AM » |
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Lol...what a coincidence...just the other day when doing a detailed clean and inspect on the underside of mine, I determined that I should order a spare spring, bolt as I've noticed the spring getting a little tired. Hadn't got to looking up the part #'s yet, so THANK YOU for saving me this frustration...better you than me   |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2021, 08:39:51 AM » |
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Yes, those items get rather tired and worn due to age(no laughing). That's why I used to always carry a couple bungee cords with me on my old 2-wheeler.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2021, 09:02:39 AM » |
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Everyone reading this post should order the bolt and spring because one day IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
Mine broke on a dirt road near Taos NM. I did have spares in my saddlebag.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2021, 09:10:17 AM » |
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Ok.... so, if you would not mind, could you add the "part numbers" to this thread.
Than I can do as Paul suggested. Otherwise it will take me some finite time to find the parts.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2021, 09:19:59 AM » |
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Ok.... so, if you would not mind, could you add the "part numbers" to this thread.
Than I can do as Paul suggested. Otherwise it will take me some finite time to find the parts.
 As requested but seriously. If you order off the fishe. Just find your part and add it to the cart. Don’t worry about part numbers, they tend to change. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2021, 09:22:33 AM » |
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Thanks. Regarding the fiche, it seemed that while they were circled there were four items that looked like bolts, 5, 6, 11, or 33.
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Serk
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2021, 09:26:06 AM » |
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The spring stud:
50536-MZ0-010
The spring:
50541-MT3-610
But you're getting part numbers from the dude who had to place 3 orders to (hopefully) get the right two parts, so double check me!
And once you factor in shipping, buying two doesn't cost much more than buying one...
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2021, 09:49:54 AM » |
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So, I went to the webpage Britman showed and found the following part numbers for my 2003 Valkyrie Standard.
Spring Side Stand - 50541-MT3-610
Bolt Side Stand - 90108-MR5-000
Nut Side Stand - 90203-MF9-710
Still trying to find the "stud".
Got it...
Hook , Spring - 50536-MZ0-010
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2021, 11:26:06 AM » |
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Several years back I took to keeping one of each in my saddlebag, Cause when you need them You need them.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2021, 11:34:40 AM » |
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I hit a Coyote at about 65mph last week. It stole my spring as it went under the Valk. I had to strap it up with a luggage strap (not the first time).
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2021, 11:50:54 AM » |
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So, many, maybe even over ten years ago my spring stud broke. I determined the reason these things break so much is that the barrel of the stud (the part that goes through the hole in the "keeper") is too skinny. When I made mine I went to ACE Hardware and got a bolt with the correct thread and cut it to length I also got a couple nuts and spacers. I sandwiched the spacers between two nuts and snugged them up real tight and then ground the nuts smooth same diameter as the spacers. Then I filed the spacers and nuts down until they were a snug fit in that keeper hole so it could not move back and forth. The OE part can move some before hitting that keeper and I'm certain that is what eventually causes the breakage. Now just to warn you...this is the dirtiest part of my bike and I didn't feel like cleaning it up any just for this picture.  |
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2021, 12:08:54 PM » |
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You aren't alone on that one Serk. I knew that stud didn't look right on the kickstand fishe, but it had to be the right one. Right? There's always a spring and stud on the bike. The funny part is trying to find something to lean the bike on if you need to fix it on the road. Hey mister, can I lean my bike on your car for about 15 minutes?  Of course, the bike can be laid over on the guards to fix it, but I'll do almost anything to not have to lift the fat bastard up by myself. The number one way to FUBAR your stud is going too fast over speed bumps. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2021, 12:22:22 PM » |
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The number one way to FUBAR your stud is going too fast over speed bumps #2 must be loading on a straight ramp so that stud hits at the transition point. |
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2021, 12:36:44 PM » |
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There's always a ... stud on the bike.
That's definitely true for any bike I'm on...  The number one way to FUBAR your stud is going too fast over speed bumps.
I bet that's what took mine out. There are some horrendous speedbumps in my neighborhood and I might sometimes hit 'em a wee bit aggressively... |
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2021, 12:58:26 PM » |
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Ok thanks guys. Why all these years have I had a spare stud and spring on hand and never thought to pack them on the bike. So now I too can say there’s always a stud on my bike too  |
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2021, 01:20:24 PM » |
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My practice on speed bumps is to always ride over to the edge of the road (if I can), they're always much lower there, or even non existent. Like this one. (though this one is much gentler than the ones around here)  |
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2021, 06:25:14 PM » |
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Lol...what a coincidence...just the other day when doing a detailed clean and inspect on the underside of mine, I determined that I should order a spare spring, bolt as I've noticed the spring getting a little tired. Hadn't got to looking up the part #'s yet, so THANK YOU for saving me this frustration...better you than me Newsflash. I too thought the spring was getting tired but on inspection all looked good so I put it out of mind. Well after today’s picture I couldn’t help it. I had to clean that pivot point. Guess what, the spring came back to life. It doesn’t take that much crud build up to affect the function. Kick stand snaps up like it used to. All cleaned up  |
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2021, 07:15:56 PM » |
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I must need to do that. My stand retracts, but it stops short of full return.
I'm not too hard on my bike, it's getting old too.
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2021, 07:17:15 PM » |
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I must need to do that. My stand retracts, but it stops short of full return.
I'm not too hard on my bike, it's getting old too.
Clean and lube that pivot point and it will be like new again |
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2021, 04:58:34 AM » |
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My practice on speed bumps is to always ride over to the edge of the road (if I can), they're always much lower there, or even non existent. Like this one. (though this one is much gentler than the ones around here) Jess, you're never going to get much "air" doing that. Rams |
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2021, 07:55:51 AM » |
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Lol...what a coincidence...just the other day when doing a detailed clean and inspect on the underside of mine, I determined that I should order a spare spring, bolt as I've noticed the spring getting a little tired. Hadn't got to looking up the part #'s yet, so THANK YOU for saving me this frustration...better you than me Newsflash. I too thought the spring was getting tired but on inspection all looked good so I put it out of mind. Well after today’s picture I couldn’t help it. I had to clean that pivot point. Guess what, the spring came back to life. It doesn’t take that much crud build up to affect the function. Kick stand snaps up like it used to. All cleaned up About five years ago I add this to my once a year maintenance. I also placed stainless shims in the stand pivot so it turns on a flat surface and weight is distributed more even on pivot. |
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2021, 10:13:13 AM » |
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My pet peeve associated with the sidestand is they didn't address lubing it. Either some (semi) perm lubed pivot point or preferably a zerk. I'm looking at adding a zerk and grease path on Jade. Too much hassle to pull the sidestand to manually grease it.
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