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15% ethanol

Started by Dirty Dave, Mon 31, Aug 2026, 09:30:14

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Dirty Dave

Seems that the nefarious engine destroyers are at it again by upping the ethanol content
in gasoline to 15% here in Canada.

Particularly with lower octane grades.
My 2018 Kawasaki Z900 owners manual stipulates very clearly not to exceed 10%
or damage will occur to the engine. (Our poor lawn mowers etc)

My question is: Will the 15% ethanol hike do damage to our beloved Valkyries.......
It's weird being the same age as old people

WintrSol

E15 will make the engine run even more lean than E10; you may want to consider increasing the jet size a bit.
Look at the spark plugs after some use, just to see if they are burning off any carbon that was coating the insulator.
98 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer
Photo of my FIL Jack, in honor of his WWII service

Pluggy

Dave, I pulled this off the Internet.  It is about US regulations, but may give you additional insight in the subject.

Here goes: Putting E15 into a motorcycle violates federal misfueling regulations under the Clean Air Act because the fuel is only legally certified for 2001 and newer passenger cars, light-duty trucks, and flex-fuel vehicles.

Dirty Dave

Great news!

Where do I roll my bike to the  mass grave provided by regulators?

 :moon:
It's weird being the same age as old people

WintrSol

#4
In the U.S. they still sell ethanol-free gas 'out in the sticks' to support farm and related vehicles. The site https://www.pure-gas.org/ has lists of the stations that sell it; it is updated by the public, and is sometimes inaccurate. Perhaps there is a similar tool for up north?

EDIT: I just looked at that site, and there are some provinces on the list, like ON. Good luck with that.
98 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer
Photo of my FIL Jack, in honor of his WWII service

Dirty Dave

Thanks for the helpful tips.

Quebec has no ethanol free and I found before on the site that Ontario still has
a source or two scattered around.

Even if I moved close to one of those pumps, I still like to take trips on my bikes,
sometime thousands of miles.

I know some stations sell 10% premium gas so I suppose I could "treat" my Valk to
an unneeded octane boost. Later detonation shouldn't really matter.

Finally, I apologize for changes in regulations.
Everything I love seems to come under attack, restriction or confiscation
at some point.

Sometimes even lies are told to "uphold" these things.

I have lived too long & am tired.

 :-\ 
It's weird being the same age as old people

WintrSol

98 Honda Valkyrie GL1500CT Tourer
Photo of my FIL Jack, in honor of his WWII service

Dirty Dave

The trouble with "normal" is it always gets worse....

Bruce Cockburn


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It's weird being the same age as old people

98valk

Quote from: WintrSol on Mon 31, Aug 2026, 11:07:46E15 will make the engine run even more lean than E10; you may want to consider increasing the jet size a bit.
Look at the spark plugs after some use, just to see if they are burning off any carbon that was coating the insulator.

not as lean as we would think. I richen up the main when I was doing air box mods installing viking exhaust. almost yr later I got on a factory pro dyno and was pig rich on the top end like 10:1.
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