Syria?

[Xtracho]

Naw....far from omnipotent. Notice nothing about Benghazi, IRS, NSA. This is a person that favors government oversight on all aspects of your lives, whether you're self-sufficient or not. The so-called "greater good" is code for the nanny state people of his ilk seek to create. "Gubmint knows whut's gud fer ya."

Benghazi- America haters attacked our consulate and people died.  Wasn't the first time, won't be the last.  Nuff said.

IRS- Targeted groups for political reasons on both sides of the isle.  Was not the President's doing.  Nuff said.

NSA-  Big brother is listening in on us?  You don't say....

I do not favor government oversight on every aspect of our lives.  That is what the Republican party stands for.  Republicans demand government oversight on who we marry, and what we do with our own bodies, not Democrats.  It's in the Republican charter!  Don't get it twisted.

We all know the aliens from Area 51 killed JFK, blew up the world trade center, and then rigged the election for Obama.  

Benghazi - Obama and State left his own appointed ambassador to be raped and murdered in the streets. Sorry, don't recall that ever happening to consulate staff. And almost a year after your idol has failed to bring the perps to justice as he promised.

IRS - Commissioner visits White House over 150 times...I suppose they were all to discuss strategy for the WH Easter Egg Hunt.

NSA - Yeah they are. And that doesn't concern you at all? Oh never mind....I forgot who I was responding to.

[BF]

Obama torn to shreds by Fox News over Syria. Seriously A Must Watch
This lady rocks!

She echoed my sentiments exactly.  Bravo for her. 

[Robert]

Judge Jeanie, my hats off to you and the clear concise layout of the true issues at hand.  This should put a little crimp in the step of certain people who think they have it all figured out.

[fudgie]

Geez I'm off the board a few days and this thread is still going on. 

How about aboobies thread? 

[The emperor has no clothes]

And to think Donald started all this with a ? He is diabolical 

[john]

                 " brain tumor! "                   
           I like the way the man thinks             

[BF]

Geez I'm off the board a few days and this thread is still going on. 

How about aboobies thread? 

I love boobies.   

Butt  I thought we couldn't do that anymore because the NSA's government contractor Google has us on some watch list now?   

I might post a testing the waters thread in a day or two.   

[fudgie]

I might post a testing the waters thread in a day or two.   

Yay! 

[f6john]

President Obama has made a world of difference in the world and this country, despite united Republican opposition to every single thing he has done.  Let's see, stock market at record highs?  Check.  Home values up?  Check.  Unemployment down?  Check.  Ended war in Iraq, and ending war in Afghanistan?  Check.  Saving of the auto industry, with accompanying record profits?  Check.
 
I pretty much do this for my own amusement at seeing my words on the screen.  I know I can't convince you, because of your blind hatred.  Funny thing is, some people on this forum believe I hate everything conservative, and despise all Republicans.  It's simply not true.  There are people that I love that are very close to me that are conservatives.  As an earlier poster espoused, I do not hate all things Bush did, nor love all things Obama has done.  Too many conservatives view the world through black and white, all or nothing thinking.  With President Obama, many conservatives play the "Heads I win, Tails you lose" game with him.  If he does something he is wrong for doing it, but if he doesn't he is wrong for not doing it.  See if you fit into that box.  Think of the great things Obama has done.

      I find posting responses to these political threads fairly futile, but at the same time, I find reading them a perfect window into the world in which some people live. If nothing else the USA is more of a melting pot than it has ever been and the social fabric that many of us grew up in is being torn to shreds. Good thing? History will have to determine that. I am a conservative and make no apologies for that. When I read the impassioned views of both sides in a thread like this it also reminds me why our Congress is so ineffective. Strong positions with little compromise.

     The best thing I can see coming out of the Syria debate is will our elected officials follow the will of the majority of the people who they are supposed to represent or will they do what's "best" because that know things we don't.

[Serk]

[Skinhead]

You pay for your insurance?  You socialist!  Putting money into a pot with other people?  Socialism!  If you take more out of the pot than you put in, that means you are a lazy bum just looking for a handout.  Not taking personal responsibility, and making others pay for you out of their pocket!  You shouldn't be allowed to take out more than you put in right?  Get a savings account then.  Stay out of socialized programs.  

Many of you conservatives seem to run with one major assumption that is flawed in its logic.  That an individual that is in need of public assistance, whether it is housing assistance, food assistance, unemployment, or health care, are in need of it because they are lazy.  You automatically assume that they are taking more from the pot than they have previously put in.  They may have contributed far more than you have to the pot, yet you feel the need to say they shouldn't take from the pot, since you have put into it.  You call it an "entitlement", then say some people feel "entitled" to something that they didn't earn.  A person could've worked at the same company for 30 years, and it shut its doors and moved to China because it's cheaper, and suddenly that worker has real trouble trying to find another job.  What a lazy leecher cashing unemployment checks!  A person works their entire life, paying into SSI, and then has the nerve to feel "entitled" to receive checks from that program!  Dang leeches!  A person that is working a minimum wage job 40 hours a week, who then takes a second 40 an hour week job, makes less than $1600/mo after taxes after working 80 hours a week!  That person would qualify for tax credits to help pay for insurance.  Are they just lazy bums looking to take from your pocket?  No, it's their fault for working for minimum wage right?  All minimum wage workers should up and quit their jobs today, and go find higher paying work right?
 
There are many things that are mandated by the federal government, that you are forced to pay for whether you like it or not.  It is part of the social contract of staying in our society.  Your taxes pay for the roads whether you drive on them or not.  Your taxes pay for the military whether you are anti-war or not.  Your taxes pay for schools, whether you have kids that are going to them or not.  Your taxes pay for water treatment for the town even if you have your own well.  Even in hunter-gatherer societies people pool resources.  Maybe one hunter had a big kill and another caught nothing that week, they share their kill.  They don't have the selfish, well its my kill, let that other hunter get better at hunting or starve mentality.  Societies don't survive that way.

One problem is you don't have a time machine to go back to the glory days of "when America was good".  You don't have the votes to change it back to that imagined ideal either.  If you don't like what America is, you can feel free to find a better country.  Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

Several leaps of faith on your part here.  Many have stated and don't feel that it needs repeating, that even the cold heartedest conservatives and republicans aren't against helping those truely in need.  The career gov. teat feeders are the folks people are against having their hard earned money confiscated for and handed over to with out so much as a thank you.

And again you missed my point entirely.

[oZ]

Not for nothing but this thread rocks and I am enjoying it. My wife and adult kids could care less about politics, so this is a great place to go for my political fix.

Showing my age here but I've worked in the health field for 35+ years and in all those years administration has voted Democratic.

In 2012 all of administration voted for Mit Romney (puke) and I can't find a doc that voted for Obama. Administration has changed their voting preferences as the league of lawyers we hired to explain the ACA to them helped them understand that the program is in place to destroy our hospital system.

BTW administration has been voting liberal since the Johnson administration as Medicare and MediCal (Medicaid elsewhere) has been paying the bills around here. I figure the libertarians have figured out they set up the system of the welfare state that benefits hospitals and doctors and now they figured out a way to take any form of control from hospital administrators and doctors, they have the power now, well almost they'll have that locked up before 2016.

Just saying....

[G-Man]

Not for nothing but this thread rocks and I am enjoying it. My wife and adult kids could care less about politics, so this is a great place to go for my political fix.

Showing my age here but I've worked in the health field for 35+ years and in all those years administration has voted Democratic.

In 2012 all of administration voted for Mit Romney (puke) and I can't find a doc that voted for Obama. Administration has changed their voting preferences as the league of lawyers we hired to explain the ACA to them helped them understand that the program is in place to destroy our hospital system.

BTW administration has been voting liberal since the Johnson administration as Medicare and MediCal (Medicaid elsewhere) has been paying the bills around here. I figure the libertarians have figured out they set up the system of the welfare state that benefits hospitals and doctors and now they figured out a way to take any form of control from hospital administrators and doctors, they have the power now, well almost they'll have that locked up before 2016.

Just saying....

I keep saying that it doesn't take 3000 pages and 3 trillion dollars to provide insurance to the uninsured, cover kids until they're 26, and insist that insurance companies can't drop or deny coverage.  But what do I know?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Not for nothing but this thread rocks and I am enjoying it. My wife and adult kids could care less about politics, so this is a great place to go for my political fix.

Showing my age here but I've worked in the health field for 35+ years and in all those years administration has voted Democratic.

In 2012 all of administration voted for Mit Romney (puke) and I can't find a doc that voted for Obama. Administration has changed their voting preferences as the league of lawyers we hired to explain the ACA to them helped them understand that the program is in place to destroy our hospital system.

BTW administration has been voting liberal since the Johnson administration as Medicare and MediCal (Medicaid elsewhere) has been paying the bills around here. I figure the libertarians have figured out they set up the system of the welfare state that benefits hospitals and doctors and now they figured out a way to take any form of control from hospital administrators and doctors, they have the power now, well almost they'll have that locked up before 2016.

Just saying....

I keep saying that it doesn't take 3000 pages and 3 trillion dollars to provide insurance to the uninsured, cover kids until they're 26, and insist that insurance companies can't drop or deny coverage.  But what do I know?

Hey that sounds like socialism!