130 HP F6B ???
Tropic traveler:
Just as an overall view of things horsepower wise, my hotrodder gearhead sense tells me certain things. The claimed increases seem fairly realistic if maybe just a bit pie in the sky high end of the possibilities. The Honda F6 engine is not stressed very much in stock form hence the engine's legendary longevity & reliability. Even though it is a somewhat dated two valve engine there is a lot of untapped potential with just some tried & true performance mods. An ECU reprogram & a better flowing exhaust could in my estimation easily add 8-10 HP. After that any serious power gains would start costing lots of buckaroonies & give diminishing returns on your investments.
As with most things, the devil is in the details & the dyno {or dragstrip} would reveal all. :cooldude:
MP:
I would have thought with the work done it would put out more. The SC 1997 I had, put out 140hp at the rear wheel. I thought another 300 cc and mapping, exhaust, etc, would get closer than that. I was wrong again.
MP
jimmytee:
Quote from: indybobm on July 18, 2014, 09:06:35 PM
jimmytee, what did the people at Dreyer on West Washington say about the mods that Whiteland Dreyer is doing? Did they approve? Are they doing the same thing?
I have bought many bikes from Dreyer, salesmen can make a big difference in the experience.
What is the salesmen's name that you were talking to? Whose dyno were they using?
The salesman at Whitestown was James. I didn't discuss my experience with West Washington. I was working in Indy that week, when I test rode the new Valk there. They didn't have a F6B there, so on my way home to E-town,KY, I stopped at the Dreyer South spot, and the rest you know.
James was alright, just got a feeling from him I didn't care for. I felt he was BS ing me on pricing, and who knows what else. He said they had dyno run the first one and converation with a couple of others,away from James, which was easy to do he was constantly distracted (ADHD), seemed to legitimize what he was saying. He couldn't produce the dyno sheet though. Said they had decided to run the Yellow one , I test rode on a Dyno to check. I told him that I would have to see that to prove worthwhile expenditure.
Bottom line, I was able to beat his pricing with a phone call, no BS, and saved thousands of $ in the process. Maybe he would have matched or beaten, I dunno. It was clear it wouldn't be without the old haggle and BS crap long known in the car sales experience. Another benefit, is I bought from a guy not two miles from my house, who started a new Honda powersports dealership here in E-town. He was great to deal with. He didn't have a F6B in stock,but got me one the nest day ,brand new from another dealer in Clarksville,IN The guy here,Steve, laid it right out and told me he was making 3-400 on the sale. I got the new 2013 for $15651. But then, when I was ordering the $1000 accessories from Honda,as part of the promotion, my tally went over by $70. He squashed that too. Can't recommend him enough. If you're in the market anywhere,near here, It is Dan Powers Honda,ask for Steve. He has a nice black 14 Valkyrie,that tempted me. :coolsmiley:
Rox:
130hp from an F6B or any late GL model isn't that hard. An exhaust, torq loops, air box unrestricted and a proper map will do it. This motor was neutered to pass emissions. Just letting this thing breathe with a fuel mix and it's there. Guys have been doing it to the Valkyries and there is ZERO difference between the two engine wise.
Robert:
Quote from: Rox on November 07, 2019, 10:20:21 AM
130hp from an F6B or any late GL model isn't that hard. An exhaust, torq loops, air box unrestricted and a proper map will do it. This motor was neutered to pass emissions. Just letting this thing breathe with a fuel mix and it's there. Guys have been doing it to the Valkyries and there is ZERO difference between the two engine wise.
Engine wise yes fuel system wise NO, the fuel system and computer on the Valk is different than the F6B or the Wing. Now if thats good or bad I dont know but I can tell you this that the maps on the Valk and programing on the Valk is different as per Ghul motors trying to reprogram the computer. As for the HP I agree that the power should be easily achievable, but why?
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