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Jess Tolbirt
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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2015, 07:15:56 PM »

I dont think you made a bad decision at all, i think the only thing you should have done is strap it on the lift, i think the bike leaned over and then the weight on one side was to much,,
this sucks big time and i know you are heart broken but i bet you wont let it happen again,,i have the same lift and so far, knock on wood, its been great..
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matt
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« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2015, 07:18:23 PM »

Dam sorry to see that. But as said happy no one hurt.
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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2015, 07:36:54 PM »

Yes it does suck. But, from what I can make out from your photos, the fairing damage should be easily repairable.  You do need a new windscreen with the chrome strip, but the damage to the wing of the fairing can easily be patched, and with a complete repaint could be made to disappear.  Slight cracks in the bag can be bonded with abs or jb weld, broken mirrors etc replaced .  Don't over react.  Think about it before you file a damage claim, unless you are sure it won't have an effect on your insurance.  I'll bet if you were to sell her as is, someone would grab onto the deal and put her back to good in no time.
Glad for you that it wasn't any worse than it is.
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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2015, 07:46:19 PM »

WOW.....what a dismal mental image.. Cry Cry    It is really strange that it took 3 hours for that to happen....Is that lift hydraulic.....wonder if it might have slowly bled off and the right side came down on something near the lift and caused everything to tilt to the left?

 
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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2015, 07:53:19 PM »

Nogrey, sorry to see the pictures, happy to read you were in the house, not sitting beside the bike.

Before the ins adjuster gets there gather up any recent pics of the bike possible. Just let him do his thing, do not tell him you plan on doing any repairs. The adjuster will make the tally for parts and labor. You may need to find a shop to refute the ins co's repair total or you will need to know what the shop rate is for mechanical and body work is and the scale for hours needed.

If you have time and have recent pics make some dup's for the adjuster.

I'm sure nothing happened to any internal parts , but once you get the clutch figured out you'll
want to give it a shake down to be sure nothing happened to the shaft/drivetrain and be sure to tell the adjuster this is something  that needs to be done and he may get called back if there is an issue.

Good luck, glad you weren't injured and hope your back on the road soon with everything as it was or better.
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« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2015, 08:02:15 PM »

Hey nogrey, also might better pull the spark plugs before you spin it over the first time, just to be sure.
good luck, Firefighter
 Yes DO that. I had an acc. a yaer ago and the Valk laid  on its side for probably three hours and when I got it home it was hydro locked.  The left side cylinders were FULL of gas. DO NOT touch the starter.BTW that last drop of oil must have made the Valk off balance. Just a little humor here. Really sorry for your misfortune and glad no one was hurt.
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Jersey mike
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« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2015, 08:18:43 PM »

Sorry to make another post but be sure to know what you want replaced as OEM and not let them say they will only replace w/ aftermarket cheaper parts like mirrors,engine guards,chrome parts,etc.
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« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2015, 08:57:38 PM »

Nogrey, sorry to see the pictures, happy to read you were in the house, not sitting beside the bike.

Before the ins adjuster gets there gather up any recent pics of the bike possible. Just let him do his thing, do not tell him you plan on doing any repairs. The adjuster will make the tally for parts and labor. You may need to find a shop to refute the ins co's repair total or you will need to know what the shop rate is for mechanical and body work is and the scale for hours needed.

If you have time and have recent pics make some dup's for the adjuster.

I'm sure nothing happened to any internal parts , but once you get the clutch figured out you'll
want to give it a shake down to be sure nothing happened to the shaft/drivetrain and be sure to tell the adjuster this is something  that needs to be done and he may get called back if there is an issue.

Good luck, glad you weren't injured and hope your back on the road soon with everything as it was or better.

Really good advice. Thanks so much.
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« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2015, 09:01:21 PM »

Hey nogrey, also might better pull the spark plugs before you spin it over the first time, just to be sure.
good luck, Firefighter
 Yes DO that. I had an acc. a yaer ago and the Valk laid  on its side for probably three hours and when I got it home it was hydro locked.  The left side cylinders were FULL of gas. DO NOT touch the starter.BTW that last drop of oil must have made the Valk off balance. Just a little humor here. Really sorry for your misfortune and glad no one was hurt.
Great advice! Will do!
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Bigwolf
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« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2015, 09:05:13 PM »

Oh that photo hurts my eyes!  Gives me the jitters!  Sorry about your mishap.  Hope you get it all back in shape soon.
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mrider
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« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2015, 09:07:30 PM »

man that does suck, i know several poeple that have had the same issue with that lift. I lift came fromThe Complete Motorcycle lift  company, i little price but a piece of mind is worth it.  
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dpcarson
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« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2015, 04:38:26 AM »

Owch!  Sorry to hear that buddy.  That bites. 
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« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2015, 07:01:08 AM »

I had one of those table lifts, and even the same chock I believe.  I have a slight slope in my garage towards the drain and didn't care for the lack of stability with that lift.  I sold it about 3 months after I got it.  That wheel chock is very weak material and can easily bend or break.....get rid of that and get a better one of you can.  I believe, like someone else mentioned, that the chock let the bike lean to the left a bit and the weight of the bike pulled the lift table over.  The chock that cam with the table might be able to be I proved upon to hold the bike better, but there are much better ones out there.

Hope it all works out in getting her repaired.  Good luck.
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« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2015, 08:33:12 AM »

Sorry to hear about your bike, I also have the hf table and agree with other members that more than likely the bike started to lean causing it to fall over. I have moved my lift around in my shop a lot but one thing I always do is level it, I put blocks under the front adjusters and get it as close as I can to level. The wheel chocks that hf have are not great, got 2 of them in my mc trailer but never felt comfortable enough to walk away from the bike for even a minute.
  I built my own wheel vise on my table and I think that's the best way to go, and always tie it down.
I have a bike on my lift most of the time in the winter and never leave it up if  even if its only for a short time. Flint


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« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2015, 10:25:51 AM »

Thinkin on a budget like a lot of us are-being as you already have the lift MAYBE rig up some out riggers-2 on each side?? Or is said lift table headed to the scrap heap?  Roll Eyes Just a thought!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2015, 11:41:27 AM »

Thinkin on a budget like a lot of us are-being as you already have the lift MAYBE rig up some out riggers-2 on each side?? Or is said lift table headed to the scrap heap?  Roll Eyes Just a thought!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
I should've tied her down. Don't know what I was thinking. I've had the bike on the lift, fully up for months at a time with no issues. Outriggers would certainly be a plus, but I don't think it would have stopped the bike from falling sideways, which is what I think happened. Can't figure out how, but pretty sure that's what happened.
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« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2015, 12:19:16 PM »

Thinkin on a budget like a lot of us are-being as you already have the lift MAYBE rig up some out riggers-2 on each side?? Or is said lift table headed to the scrap heap?  Roll Eyes Just a thought!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
I should've tied her down. Don't know what I was thinking. I've had the bike on the lift, fully up for months at a time with no issues. Outriggers would certainly be a plus, but I don't think it would have stopped the bike from falling sideways, which is what I think happened. Can't figure out how, but pretty sure that's what happened.

Don't beat yourself up too bad. We all make mistakes(I've made more than my share) NOBODY got hurt !!!
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« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2015, 01:04:36 PM »

Probably more stuff bent than you realize. My last crash was not much more than a fall over on the grass and was totaled.

nogrey, sorry for the aggravation and pia you'll have to deal with now.

Gordon, quit taking advantage of others misfortunes just to run up your post count.  Evil
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« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2015, 01:35:19 PM »

Thinkin on a budget like a lot of us are-being as you already have the lift MAYBE rig up some out riggers-2 on each side?? Or is said lift table headed to the scrap heap?  Roll Eyes Just a thought!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
I should've tied her down. Don't know what I was thinking. I've had the bike on the lift, fully up for months at a time with no issues. Outriggers would certainly be a plus, but I don't think it would have stopped the bike from falling sideways, which is what I think happened. Can't figure out how, but pretty sure that's what happened.

        Don't know what I wuz thinkin part?-let's just say a "brain fart" wuz involved!  2funny AND we'll leave er at that!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2015, 04:37:41 PM »

At least your garbage can came out unscathed.   Wink
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« Reply #60 on: February 24, 2015, 05:01:27 PM »

At least your garbage can came out unscathed.   Wink
Nope, I had to "trash" the lid because the beast busted it. The wrench on the floor, however, still works just fine.
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« Reply #61 on: February 24, 2015, 05:37:34 PM »

Been a firefighter for 27 years and in that time have seen three separate deaths from vehicles falling off jacks and two deaths from vehicle rolling backwards while being worked on.

Don't beat yourself up anymore and understand you scared the most of us into being more safe in the future. Most of us have learned a lesson through you, and your sharing this accident with us may save a life or two down the road. Thank You

Also, still think you had better pull those spark plugs before you spin her over.  Firefighter
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« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2015, 06:22:24 PM »

Been a firefighter for 27 years and in that time have seen three separate deaths from vehicles falling off jacks and two deaths from vehicle rolling backwards while being worked on.

Don't beat yourself up anymore and understand you scared the most of us into being more safe in the future. Most of us have learned a lesson through you, and your sharing this accident with us may save a life or two down the road. Thank You

Also, still think you had better pull those spark plugs before you spin her over.  Firefighter
I agree. I don't have a lift, but I know I will think more about safety with it up on the jack. Thanks Nogrey cooldude
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« Reply #63 on: February 25, 2015, 03:14:50 AM »

Been a firefighter for 27 years and in that time have seen three separate deaths from vehicles falling off jacks and two deaths from vehicle rolling backwards while being worked on.

Don't beat yourself up anymore and understand you scared the most of us into being more safe in the future. Most of us have learned a lesson through you, and your sharing this accident with us may save a life or two down the road. Thank You

Also, still think you had better pull those spark plugs before you spin her over.  Firefighter

I'll be a bit more concerned when I use my lift for sure. I have always strapped the bike down for safety, but now I am thinking of putting a couple of drop in anchors in the floor to secure the lift. I was kind of thinking about this before as a way to keep the lift from sliding when rolling the bike onto it,but now am considering it more so.
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« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2015, 04:35:11 AM »

I like the thought of anchors in the floor. Good idea!
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« Reply #65 on: February 25, 2015, 05:20:37 AM »

Would red heading it into the floor work or do you guys move the lift out of the way when you are not using it?
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Jess Tolbirt
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« Reply #66 on: February 25, 2015, 05:30:55 AM »

Would red heading it into the floor work or do you guys move the lift out of the way when you are not using it?
use drop in anchors that way you can remove the bolts and move the lift,, just put the bolts back into the holes to keep the dirt out, screw them all the way down, or use shorter bolts,,or plastic caps of some sort..
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« Reply #67 on: February 25, 2015, 06:49:55 AM »

As usual with this group, I am overwhelmed with the support and helpful comments. I very much appreciate all of the input. Though I do move my lift to 2 different spots depending on the length of the job, I am considering drop in anchors in both spots. I think this is an excellent idea. I did look at several different lifts, and considered a few different ones, but both budgetery and space concerns kept leading me back to this one. There are larger and better built lifts out there, for sure, but I couldn't do larger.
Thanks to everyone for your positive and very helpful posts. My insurance adjuster from GEICO was out yesterday. Even though it will no doubt result in higher premiums I decided there was enough damage to warrant a claim. The adjuster came over, went over every detail that I pointed out. Even options that were damaged (heal-toe shifter). Wrote me a check for $4200.00 on the spot. The bike is not totaled, which was my fear. The adjuster was very helpful and also made it clear that should I find anything else, that they would continue to support any necessary repairs.
Looks like my black beast will be at inzane this year.
Oh, and I already pulled the plugs and when I get oil back into her, I'll do a test for hydrolock before starting her for real.
Thanks again everyone! So glad to "know" all of you.
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« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2015, 04:44:41 AM »

Glad you got the outcome you wanted  cooldude
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« Reply #69 on: February 27, 2015, 08:27:58 AM »

Sorry for the mishap, glad the insurance will help.

I've got both items as you have, the same lift table and wheel chock.

However my chock is on a sheet of plywood on the floor that I park the bike on and as sloppy as it is would never leave it just sitting in the choke without putting the kickstand down!  It will lean substantially in the chock!

As far as the lift table I've had my bike on it for days at a time where I needed to roll the whole assembly (bike and table) out of the way to drive my truck in the shop overnight.  Never had an issue, but the bike was strapped down very secure.

These tables are rated at 1000lbs and I think the Valks are around 850.
I've also done like Flint and put a better "wheel vise" type chock, the one from HFs "air/hydraulic" lift table which is very similar to Flints in the picture.
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