Another revelation about Obamacare cost

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The supporters must be so pleased. What a joke.

http://www.ntu.org/foundation/detail/its-tax-plicated-complexity-rising-with-obamacare-burden

[Jess from VA]

Speaking of tax complexity, I underpay my VA state taxes by $200 (not on purpose, I claim zero exemptions, and this is the default setting, and they make it difficult to amend your Fed pension withholding).  So I use turbo tax, which of course does it for you.  But when I save a copy and review it, the computation/calculation of penalty is two pages of incomprehensible quarterly tax mumbo jumbo (looking like one of Sheldon Cooper's blackboard problems).  That alone makes Turbo Tax worth it for me.  And after all that mumbo jumbo, I owe a $5 penalty (plus the $200). 

I wish we could do a destructive reboot on the G.   Or reset to about 1965.

My brother has had good health ins thru his union for many years, but it spiked way up.  He called up some people to talk about new insurance.  After they told him of huge premiums and deductibles, and then a 70-30 split on all charges after deductible, he said..... No, I was looking for actual insurance, not a deal where I pay a lot of money for NO INSURANCE.   More in exasperation and anger than anything, he is going to have no insurance and just (make them try to make him) pay the penalty. 

[BF]

FAIR TAX.  

No more taxes on income....period.  IRS goes away.  

Flat tax....still is a tax on income.

IRS stays right where it is.   

[Patrick]

Ya, but, we just had to pass it so it could be read to find out what was in it away from 'all the fog'.

I think the fog has finally dissipated and reality is setting in.

Some of us that actually read some of it before it was passed knew what was going to happen.

[Jess from VA]

I don't know about you Patrick, but all I need to know is if the new legislation is proposed by the Dem's...... it's going to be bad and expensive and raise the national debt, and create more bureaucracy, and buy more votes, and take away more freedom.  

I don't even have to read it to know this.  It's all they do.

[G-Man]

he said..... No, I was looking for actual insurance, not a deal where I pay a lot of money for NO INSURANCE.  

And that there lies the rub.

You can't get health INSURANCE anylonger.  The Gov't morphed everything into health CARE.

Why would a healthy 25 year old, with no medical history, need a coverage for $12,000 with a $12,000 deductible?  This person needs an insurance policy against injury or something that requires hospitalization.  I had a policy like this when I was 25 and it cost $800 for the year back then.  If I wanted it to cover Dr office visits, then we would move up to major medical coverage for a little bit more.  

But now the "policy" has to cover everything from sniffles to a heart transplant and everything in between, and if you're not sick, it even has to cover all the tests to prove you're not sick.  

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he said..... No, I was looking for actual insurance, not a deal where I pay a lot of money for NO INSURANCE.  

And that there lies the rub.

You can't get health INSURANCE anylonger.  The Gov't morphed everything into health CARE.

Why would a healthy 25 year old, with no medical history, need a coverage for $12,000 with a $12,000 deductible?  This person needs an insurance policy against injury or something that requires hospitalization.  I had a policy like this when I was 25 and it cost $800 for the year back then.  If I wanted it to cover Dr office visits, then we would move up to major medical coverage for a little bit more.  

But now the "policy" has to cover everything from sniffles to a heart transplant and everything in between, and if you're not sick, it even has to cover all the tests to prove you're not sick.  

Yet those that thought Obamacare was a great plan would NEVER admit they were wrong. Hypocrites and cowards.

[G-Man]

he said..... No, I was looking for actual insurance, not a deal where I pay a lot of money for NO INSURANCE.  

And that there lies the rub.

You can't get health INSURANCE anylonger.  The Gov't morphed everything into health CARE.

Why would a healthy 25 year old, with no medical history, need a coverage for $12,000 with a $12,000 deductible?  This person needs an insurance policy against injury or something that requires hospitalization.  I had a policy like this when I was 25 and it cost $800 for the year back then.  If I wanted it to cover Dr office visits, then we would move up to major medical coverage for a little bit more.  

But now the "policy" has to cover everything from sniffles to a heart transplant and everything in between, and if you're not sick, it even has to cover all the tests to prove you're not sick.  

Yet those that thought Obamacare was a great plan would NEVER admit they were wrong. Hypocrites and cowards.

Right, instead they applaud the numbers of folks who have signed up.  They forget that 6 million who were previously covered, lost what they had and had to move onto the ACA.  Then they also forget that it's the LAW to sign-up or face penalty.

My tax guy did tell me that a couple dozen of his clients paid the fine because it was cheaper, but next year it won't so more folks will be forced to sign up. 

It works for those who have very little.  But like that squirrely runt confided, if the country knew it was a redistribution tax, they wouldn't have gone for it and the folks who were promised a $2,500 reduction got hit with insane increases.  Terrible scam forced on Americans masses to help only a few.

[Patrick]

I don't know about you Patrick, but all I need to know is if the new legislation is proposed by the Dem's...... it's going to be bad and expensive and raise the national debt, and create more bureaucracy, and buy more votes, and take away more freedom.  

I don't even have to read it to know this.  It's all they do.

Buying votes. The dems are at it again. They are now pushing to increase social security benefits. I don't have much of a problem with that since my simple math says my check should be about 75% greater than it is, but, I digress as usual. Remember all the free air flights now bringing illegals into this country, well, not only do the get food, housing, education on our dime, there is now a push to tap into SS for them. Ain't this a grand country.