Tears

[Valkorado]

Gee, sorry, Baldo.  It was just a typo, like your spelling of America.  You slam us, then tell us not to fire back (excuse the pun, I imagine it was traumatic for you).

[MP]

Baldo:

"Inadvertant"  as in the service man several years ago that was flying. He had a pistol, legally carried in checked luggage.  Legal on both ends. He had a plane change, in NJ I believe.  Where he would NOT be touching his carry on luggage.

However, the second plane was not available, so they gave him his luggage, paid for his motel room one night, and gave him tickets for the next day.  When he dutifully checked in his luggage, with the pistol in it, he was arrested, and I believe the sentence was 7 years.

Does that sound right to you?  Do you think his sentence was just?

When you have a CCW, there are places you are not allowed to go.  Maybe a bar, even if not drinking, etc.

In ND, I am not allowed to carry at "a public event or gathering".  What is a "public event or gathering"?

If I am walking down the street, and meet some friends, and we stand there talking, is that a "public event"?  How aabout stopping in a town, getting out of car, walking down the street, and walk into  a 4th of July gathering with 50 people?  Small town ND.

Should one be sentenced to years in prison for "violations"?  I think not.

Too bad you do not support firearm training, either adult or adolescent.  I think have a number of trained carriers would help.

As I suspected, I gave you a number of my solutions, and you rejected essentially all of them.

And, that is where the divide is, and will remain.

Liberals want to get rid of guns, as evidenced by your pointing out countries that have banned guns.

Conservatives believe in the Constitution, in the Rights of Citizens, and personal responsibility.

There is the gap, and I see no way it will close.

[baldo]

Gee, sorry, Baldo.  It was just a typo, like your spelling of America.  You slam us, then tell us not to fire back (excuse the pun, I imagine it was traumatic for you).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k

It was a joke. As evidenced by the humorous links attached.

[baldo]

Baldo:

"Inadvertant"  as in the service man several years ago that was flying. He had a pistol, legally carried in checked luggage.  Legal on both ends. He had a plane change, in NJ I believe.  Where he would NOT be touching his carry on luggage.

However, the second plane was not available, so they gave him his luggage, paid for his motel room one night, and gave him tickets for the next day.  When he dutifully checked in his luggage, with the pistol in it, he was arrested, and I believe the sentence was 7 years.

Does that sound right to you?  Do you think his sentence was just?

When you have a CCW, there are places you are not allowed to go.  Maybe a bar, even if not drinking, etc.

In ND, I am not allowed to carry at "a public event or gathering".  What is a "public event or gathering"?

If I am walking down the street, and meet some friends, and we stand there talking, is that a "public event"?  How aabout stopping in a town, getting out of car, walking down the street, and walk into  a 4th of July gathering with 50 people?  Small town ND.

Should one be sentenced to years in prison for "violations"?  I think not.

Too bad you do not support firearm training, either adult or adolescent.  I think have a number of trained carriers would help.

As I suspected, I gave you a number of my solutions, and you rejected essentially all of them.

And, that is where the divide is, and will remain.

Liberals want to get rid of guns, as evidenced by your pointing out countries that have banned guns.

Conservatives believe in the Constitution, in the Rights of Citizens, and personal responsibility.

There is the gap, and I see no way it will close.

Where do you see me rejecting any solutions? I was responding, in kind, to your post. Because we may have differences of opinion, doesn't mean I'm 'rejecting' them. Essentially, you're doing that exact same thing you're accusing me of. We don't agree, so I'm the bad guy?

Your ND hypotheticals. Did they actually happen, or are they just what-ifs?

And don't go lumping all liberals in the 'get rid of all guns' crowd. Some of us are in the middle, way more than you think.

[MP]

Ok, you just "disagreed " with them!  LOL

No comment on the "inadvertant" uses I cited?

The "public event" is in ND law.  My question is, what exactly does it refer to? Easy to make a mistake. Another inadvertant arrest?  I just want it plain.

Our "difference" of opinion is you want to restrict heavily gun ownership.

I trust citizens, and believe legal carry is an asset and solution.  You seem to see it as the problem.

As in abortion, I do not see how there can be a middle ground.

[Jess from VA]

It gets old dealing with the Caniduh mentality, too.  If less legally purchased guns are out there, more legal citizens will be defenseless when illegal guns are used against them.  

Obama is mad.  So he's directs his anger at law abiding Americans by infringing on their rights.  And people like you applaud him.

I applaud him because he's TRYING to fix a problem that Congress blocks at every turn. Yes, he's pissed. I'm pissed. YOU should be pissed when 26 1st graders are massacred. YOU should be pissed when some asshole opens fire in a school, in a theater, in a university lecture hall. YOU should be pissed when all these things happen, but the NRA and their lobbyists buy members of Congress to block ANY attempt to rein it in. Where in the hell do you start?

You make it sound like congress is blocking good effective laws.  They're not.  No good effective laws (beyond the thousands already in place) have been proposed by Zero, or anyone else.  So long as proposed legislation or executive orders are only aimed at further restricting lawful, law abiding citizens, with little chance whatsoever at restricting criminal/lunatic acquisition and/or use of firearms, they will be resisted and thwarted at every turn, as they should.  So long as proposed legislation is clearly aimed at universal licensing of guns and owners (the final step toward mass confiscations), they will be resisted and thwarted at every turn, as they should.  

Freedom has many prices.  Every law abiding gun owner in this county is sick about the mass shootings committed by deranged and damaged humans.... which will always be in ample supply.  But none of us will sit still for or tolerate any new legislation or executive order aimed at depriving the lawful citizenry of their right to keep and bear arms.

We are at 320 million humans now.  A decent percentage of them will always be defective units, prone to murder and mayhem (and as the population increases, so will the number of defectives).  WE the good humans with no bar to firearm ownership rely on our 2d Amendment to protect ourselves, families and country from defective units (criminals, lunatics or politicians).  We will never surrender this right for the supposed higher benefit of the collective good (a pie-in-the-sky falsehood perpetrated by socialists for consolidation of their own power over the populace).

We the good humans with no bar to firearm ownership would like to see better and stronger enforcement of existing laws to execute and imprison career felons and lock away lunatics (and defective politicians).  But even if we got it, no law or legislation (gun laws or any laws) will prevent defective humans from doing the evil they do.  

Human evil cannot be legislated away. 

[..]

In the UK private ownership of a firearm is nearly banned at 100% Criminals are still shooting people

The nut jobs turned to knives.

Carrying a knife longer than 4 inches including handle now banned. Nut jobs are still attacking people with knives.

Some nut jobs turned to hammers, baseball bats, sharpened bicycle spokes.

Ban those as well???

[..]

As a percentage of population young black men- 18 to 35 - are more accomplished at killing each other with firearms than any other section of the population.

Ban black people???

[Serk]

In the UK private ownership of a firearm is nearly banned at 100% Criminals are still shooting people

The nut jobs turned to knives.

Carrying a knife longer than 4 inches including handle now banned. Nut jobs are still attacking people with knives.

Some nut jobs turned to hammers, baseball bats, sharpened bicycle spokes.

Ban those as well???

I'm embarrassed for our Australian friends...

[baldo]

It gets old dealing with the Caniduh mentality, too.  If less legally purchased guns are out there, more legal citizens will be defenseless when illegal guns are used against them.  

Obama is mad.  So he's directs his anger at law abiding Americans by infringing on their rights.  And people like you applaud him.

I applaud him because he's TRYING to fix a problem that Congress blocks at every turn. Yes, he's pissed. I'm pissed. YOU should be pissed when 26 1st graders are massacred. YOU should be pissed when some asshole opens fire in a school, in a theater, in a university lecture hall. YOU should be pissed when all these things happen, but the NRA and their lobbyists buy members of Congress to block ANY attempt to rein it in. Where in the hell do you start?

You make it sound like congress is blocking good effective laws.  They're not.  No good effective laws (beyond the thousands already in place) have been proposed by Zero, or anyone else.  So long as proposed legislation or executive orders are only aimed at further restricting lawful, law abiding citizens, with little chance whatsoever at restricting criminal/lunatic acquisition and/or use of firearms, they will be resisted and thwarted at every turn, as they should.  So long as proposed legislation is clearly aimed at universal licensing of guns and owners (the final step toward mass confiscations), they will be resisted and thwarted at every turn, as they should.  

Freedom has many prices.  Every law abiding gun owner in this county is sick about the mass shootings committed by deranged and damaged humans.... which will always be in ample supply.  But none of us will sit still for or tolerate any new legislation or executive order aimed at depriving the lawful citizenry of their right to keep and bear arms.

We are at 320 million humans now.  A decent percentage of them will always be defective units, prone to murder and mayhem (and as the population increases, so will the number of defectives).  WE the good humans with no bar to firearm ownership rely on our 2d Amendment to protect ourselves, families and country from defective units (criminals, lunatics or politicians).  We will never surrender this right for the supposed higher benefit of the collective good (a pie-in-the-sky falsehood perpetrated by socialists for consolidation of their own power over the populace).

We the good humans with no bar to firearm ownership would like to see better and stronger enforcement of existing laws to execute and imprison career felons and lock away lunatics (and defective politicians).  But even if we got it, no law or legislation (gun laws or any laws) will prevent defective humans from doing the evil they do.  

Human evil cannot be legislated away. 

It appears that any attempt to find a middle ground is unattainable. You feel as strongly as I do about this issue. And for the record, I've never said I want all guns seized. That wuld be impossible, and get pretty ugly.

And one other thing. You really should try to use the President's name. Using words like Zero and Obummer, as so many here like to do, isn't cute. It just makes you look small.

[Serk]

It appears that any attempt to find a middle ground is unattainable. You feel as strongly as I do about this issue. And for the record, I've never said I want all guns seized. That wuld be impossible, and get pretty ugly.

Some issues there can be no middle ground on. Civil rights are one of those issues that compromise would not only be impossible, it is immoral.

[Jess from VA]

It gets old dealing with the Caniduh mentality, too.  If less legally purchased guns are out there, more legal citizens will be defenseless when illegal guns are used against them.  

Obama is mad.  So he's directs his anger at law abiding Americans by infringing on their rights.  And people like you applaud him.

I applaud him because he's TRYING to fix a problem that Congress blocks at every turn. Yes, he's pissed. I'm pissed. YOU should be pissed when 26 1st graders are massacred. YOU should be pissed when some asshole opens fire in a school, in a theater, in a university lecture hall. YOU should be pissed when all these things happen, but the NRA and their lobbyists buy members of Congress to block ANY attempt to rein it in. Where in the hell do you start?

You make it sound like congress is blocking good effective laws.  They're not.  No good effective laws (beyond the thousands already in place) have been proposed by Zero, or anyone else.  So long as proposed legislation or executive orders are only aimed at further restricting lawful, law abiding citizens, with little chance whatsoever at restricting criminal/lunatic acquisition and/or use of firearms, they will be resisted and thwarted at every turn, as they should.  So long as proposed legislation is clearly aimed at universal licensing of guns and owners (the final step toward mass confiscations), they will be resisted and thwarted at every turn, as they should.  

Freedom has many prices.  Every law abiding gun owner in this county is sick about the mass shootings committed by deranged and damaged humans.... which will always be in ample supply.  But none of us will sit still for or tolerate any new legislation or executive order aimed at depriving the lawful citizenry of their right to keep and bear arms.

We are at 320 million humans now.  A decent percentage of them will always be defective units, prone to murder and mayhem (and as the population increases, so will the number of defectives).  WE the good humans with no bar to firearm ownership rely on our 2d Amendment to protect ourselves, families and country from defective units (criminals, lunatics or politicians).  We will never surrender this right for the supposed higher benefit of the collective good (a pie-in-the-sky falsehood perpetrated by socialists for consolidation of their own power over the populace).

We the good humans with no bar to firearm ownership would like to see better and stronger enforcement of existing laws to execute and imprison career felons and lock away lunatics (and defective politicians).  But even if we got it, no law or legislation (gun laws or any laws) will prevent defective humans from doing the evil they do.  

Human evil cannot be legislated away. 

It appears that any attempt to find a middle ground is unattainable. You feel as strongly as I do about this issue. And for the record, I've never said I want all guns seized. That wuld be impossible, and get pretty ugly.

And one other thing. You really should try to use the President's name. Using words like Zero and Obummer, as so many here like to do, isn't cute. It just makes you look small.

I have been in this fight for 30 years.  The principle gun legislation on the books; 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA), Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (1968), Gun Control Act of 1968 ("GCA") (1968), Firearm Owners Protection Act ("FOPA") (1986), Undetectable Firearms Act (1988), Gun-Free School Zones Act (1990), Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (1993), Federal Assault Weapons Ban (1994–2004), the creation of the BATF(E), with their massive regulatory and enforcement latitude, and 50 states of combined gun laws ALREADY GOES WAY PAST THE HALF WAY POINT (and is largely unconstitutional as it is).

I'm pretty sick of hearing about my unwillingness to meet people half way on this issue.  I am always willing to listen to any real meaningful legislation about stopping crime and violence.  I am a law and order guy all the way.  But when all the new proposals just attempt to remove even more of the watered down right to keep and bear arms we lawful citizens have left (but have no effect on criminals), I am rightfully skeptical, and antagonistic. 

I'll call that America hating, freedom hating, constitution hating, oath breaking, race baiting, perpetual liar, tax and spending, left wing wing nut anything I damn well please.... sonny.  Calling him Zero is perfectly true and accurate, and as nice as I can make it. 

[Gryphon Rider]

It gets old dealing with the Caniduh mentality, too.  If less legally purchased guns are out there, more legal citizens will be defenseless when illegal guns are used against them. 

Obama is mad.  So he's directs his anger at law abiding Americans by infringing on their rights.  And people like you applaud him.

Why the shot at Canadians?  We think differently and we do differently in our own back yard, and most of us are generally happy about it.  Isn't that the essence of democracy and freedom?

[Moonshot_1]

It gets old dealing with the Caniduh mentality, too.  If less legally purchased guns are out there, more legal citizens will be defenseless when illegal guns are used against them. 

Obama is mad.  So he's directs his anger at law abiding Americans by infringing on their rights.  And people like you applaud him.

Why the shot at Canadians?  We think differently and we do differently in our own back yard, and most of us are generally happy about it.  Isn't that the essence of democracy and freedom?

I would strongly disagree on your perception of the "Essence of Democracy and Freedom"


THIS is the true Essence of Democracy and Freedom

They got my vote1

[Serk]

Back to the original topic of Obama's (pbuh) crocodile tears, found this rather interesting:

"When [Susan Smith] gave a press conference and cried about her missing children, her fake tears were actually what raised suspicions that she was the killer," says Glass.

When psychopaths cry, Glass says they will often wipe underneath each eye, one at a time. "When people cry genuine tears they cry with both eyes, and so they will tend to wipe both eyes at once."

Source - http://www.businessinsider.com/signs-that-youre-dealing-wth-a-psychopath-2013-11

(Read the entire article, many of the other attributes of a psychopath are applicable to Obama (pbuh) as well IMHO...)

[Valkorado]

Not a shot at all, I was just playing with Baldo's misspelling of America (Americuh), and he used to list his residence as Canada before changing it to America.  I have nothing against our allies up North doing differently, and try not to comment on their affairs.  I would love to ride to Canada someday.

[baldo]

It gets old dealing with the Caniduh mentality, too.  If less legally purchased guns are out there, more legal citizens will be defenseless when illegal guns are used against them.  

Obama is mad.  So he's directs his anger at law abiding Americans by infringing on their rights.  And people like you applaud him.

I applaud him because he's TRYING to fix a problem that Congress blocks at every turn. Yes, he's pissed. I'm pissed. YOU should be pissed when 26 1st graders are massacred. YOU should be pissed when some asshole opens fire in a school, in a theater, in a university lecture hall. YOU should be pissed when all these things happen, but the NRA and their lobbyists buy members of Congress to block ANY attempt to rein it in. Where in the hell do you start?

You make it sound like congress is blocking good effective laws.  They're not.  No good effective laws (beyond the thousands already in place) have been proposed by Zero, or anyone else.  So long as proposed legislation or executive orders are only aimed at further restricting lawful, law abiding citizens, with little chance whatsoever at restricting criminal/lunatic acquisition and/or use of firearms, they will be resisted and thwarted at every turn, as they should.  So long as proposed legislation is clearly aimed at universal licensing of guns and owners (the final step toward mass confiscations), they will be resisted and thwarted at every turn, as they should.  

Freedom has many prices.  Every law abiding gun owner in this county is sick about the mass shootings committed by deranged and damaged humans.... which will always be in ample supply.  But none of us will sit still for or tolerate any new legislation or executive order aimed at depriving the lawful citizenry of their right to keep and bear arms.

We are at 320 million humans now.  A decent percentage of them will always be defective units, prone to murder and mayhem (and as the population increases, so will the number of defectives).  WE the good humans with no bar to firearm ownership rely on our 2d Amendment to protect ourselves, families and country from defective units (criminals, lunatics or politicians).  We will never surrender this right for the supposed higher benefit of the collective good (a pie-in-the-sky falsehood perpetrated by socialists for consolidation of their own power over the populace).

We the good humans with no bar to firearm ownership would like to see better and stronger enforcement of existing laws to execute and imprison career felons and lock away lunatics (and defective politicians).  But even if we got it, no law or legislation (gun laws or any laws) will prevent defective humans from doing the evil they do.  

Human evil cannot be legislated away. 

It appears that any attempt to find a middle ground is unattainable. You feel as strongly as I do about this issue. And for the record, I've never said I want all guns seized. That wuld be impossible, and get pretty ugly.

And one other thing. You really should try to use the President's name. Using words like Zero and Obummer, as so many here like to do, isn't cute. It just makes you look small.

I have been in this fight for 30 years.  The principle gun legislation on the books; 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA), Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (1968), Gun Control Act of 1968 ("GCA") (1968), Firearm Owners Protection Act ("FOPA") (1986), Undetectable Firearms Act (1988), Gun-Free School Zones Act (1990), Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (1993), Federal Assault Weapons Ban (1994–2004), the creation of the BATF(E), with their massive regulatory and enforcement latitude, and 50 states of combined gun laws ALREADY GOES WAY PAST THE HALF WAY POINT (and is largely unconstitutional as it is).

I'm pretty sick of hearing about my unwillingness to meet people half way on this issue.  I am always willing to listen to any real meaningful legislation about stopping crime and violence.  I am a law and order guy all the way.  But when all the new proposals just attempt to remove even more of the watered down right to keep and bear arms we lawful citizens have left (but have no effect on criminals), I am rightfully skeptical, and antagonistic. 

I'll call that America hating, freedom hating, constitution hating, oath breaking, race baiting, perpetual liar, tax and spending, left wing wing nut anything I damn well please.... sonny.  Calling him Zero is perfectly true and accurate, and as nice as I can make it. 

 

Only the second lamest comment I've read today......see ya later, buddy.

[baldo]

Not a shot at all, I was just playing with Baldo's misspelling of America (Americuh), and he used to list his residence as Canada before changing it to America.  I have nothing against our allies up North doing differently, and try not to comment on their affairs.  I would love to ride to Canada someday.

I believe you're mistaken, friend. I've never listed my residence as Canada. I've mentioned that I'm French-Canadian in a thread or two, but that's it. I'll type slower for you.

[Valkorado]

OK, my mistake then.   I knew I'd seen some Canadian references in several posts from you and made that connection.  Do you always misspell your country's name?

[The emperor has no clothes]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

[baldo]

OK, my mistake then.   I knew I'd seen some Canadian references in several posts from you and made that connection.

No problem.....

[baldo]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

Well, 10% is a start....

[Serk]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

This being the same guy that uses flying robots to slaughter innocent children and then makes jokes about it kinda makes it hard to believe his sincerity now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

[baldo]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

This being the same guy that uses flying robots to slaughter innocent children and then makes jokes about it kinda makes it hard to believe his sincerity now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

I agree, that was in poor taste. But we're not really talking about the same thing here, are we?

[The emperor has no clothes]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

This being the same guy that uses flying robots to slaughter innocent children and then makes jokes about it kinda makes it hard to believe his sincerity now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

I agree, that was in poor taste. But we're not really talking about the same thing here, are we?

Of course we aren't. But some have a hard time with reconciling that he is a human being. For years he has been an aloof professory evil Muslim . For him to actually have human emotion is too much.

[Serk]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

This being the same guy that uses flying robots to slaughter innocent children and then makes jokes about it kinda makes it hard to believe his sincerity now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

I agree, that was in poor taste. But we're not really talking about the same thing here, are we?

Of course we aren't. But some have a hard time with reconciling that he is a human being. For years he has been an aloof professory evil Muslim . For him to actually have human emotion is too much.

For Him to show emotions for something he had nothing to do with after joking about atrocities He directly caused to happen is a bit of a stretch, IMHO... So yeah... I don't believe His tears were genuine at all, but were staged to sway emotions.

I've said it a few times but I believe we've moved away from a conflict between left vs. right, no longer Democrat vs. Republican, and we've come to a phase of "feelings" vs. "facts"

Somehow feelings and emotions have come to be more important than actual facts. And this is a prime example of that. Facts are meaningless in the face of a crying president demanding SOMETHING be done, ANYTHING, even if it won't do any good at all, SOMETHING must be done.

[MP]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

[The emperor has no clothes]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

Me ? If I did I sure don't remember. The only thing I thought of Boehner was how ineffectual he was.  ???

[Skinhead]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

YEAH!  Why should we not believe him?  He's never lied to us in the past!

If you like your gun, you can keep your gun.

[Serk]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

Wait... I made fun of Boehner for crying (And for being a flaming liberal sympathizer with no back bone whatsoever as well)

Does that mean I'm a liberal now too?  

[baldo]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

Me ? If I did I sure don't remember. The only thing I thought of Boehner was how ineffectual he was.  ???

Same here. If I did mock Boehner, I sincerely apologize if I offended any delicate sensibilities here on the forum. I really don't think I did, but you never know. Maybe one of my friends here on the board could help me out with that. And he was definitely ineffectual, probably the worst SOH in recent history. But when you consider what he had to work with...

[baldo]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

Wait... I made fun of Boehner for crying (And for being a flaming liberal sympathizer with no back bone whatsoever as well)

Does that mean I'm a liberal now too?  

I don't think you'd make the grade, so to speak....

[Valkorado]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

This being the same guy that uses flying robots to slaughter innocent children and then makes jokes about it kinda makes it hard to believe his sincerity now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

I agree, that was in poor taste. But we're not really talking about the same thing here, are we?

Of course we aren't. But some have a hard time with reconciling that he is a human being. For years he has been an aloof professory evil Muslim . For him to actually have human emotion is too much.

OK, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say his human emotion overwhelms him and he gets so mad-sad that he cries himself to sleep every night.  I wouldn't hold this against him.  It wouldn't change the fact that his human emotion of anger is misdirected toward law abiding Americans and their Constitutional rights.

[baldo]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

YEAH!  Why should we not believe him?  He's never lied to us in the past!

If you like your gun, you can keep your gun.

OMG....

[baldo]

As to Obama's tears, why is it so hard to believe that someone would tear up when thinking about the slaughtering of little kids ? I think it would be hard not to shed a tear. But 90% of my friends on the right think he was faking it.

This being the same guy that uses flying robots to slaughter innocent children and then makes jokes about it kinda makes it hard to believe his sincerity now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

I agree, that was in poor taste. But we're not really talking about the same thing here, are we?

Of course we aren't. But some have a hard time with reconciling that he is a human being. For years he has been an aloof professory evil Muslim . For him to actually have human emotion is too much.

OK, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say his human emotion overwhelms him every night and he gets so mad-sad that he cries himself to sleep every night.  I wouldn't hold this against him.  It wouldn't change the fact that his human emotion of anger is misdirected toward law abiding Americans and their Constitutional rights.

Whatever makes you sleep better at night...

[Gavin_Sons]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

Wait... I made fun of Boehner for crying (And for being a flaming liberal sympathizer with no back bone whatsoever as well)

Does that mean I'm a liberal now too?  

I don't think you'd make the grade, so to speak....

yeah, your not that dumb Serk!

[Serk]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

Wait... I made fun of Boehner for crying (And for being a flaming liberal sympathizer with no back bone whatsoever as well)

Does that mean I'm a liberal now too?  

I don't think you'd make the grade, so to speak....

Heh... Actually I used to be a bleeding heart liberal... Voted for Jerry Brown in the primaries, Voted for Clinton twice, met him in person, still have my "Bush for EX-President!" stickers, etc. etc. etc...

[baldo]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

Wait... I made fun of Boehner for crying (And for being a flaming liberal sympathizer with no back bone whatsoever as well)

Does that mean I'm a liberal now too?  

I don't think you'd make the grade, so to speak....

yeah, your not that dumb Serk!

Uh oh....I'm offended.....but you did spell it correctly. Points for you.

[baldo]

all this from liberals, who did nothing but make fun of Boehner crying.

Wait... I made fun of Boehner for crying (And for being a flaming liberal sympathizer with no back bone whatsoever as well)

Does that mean I'm a liberal now too?  

I don't think you'd make the grade, so to speak....

Heh... Actually I used to be a bleeding heart liberal... Voted for Jerry Brown in the primaries, Voted for Clinton twice, met him in person, still have my "Bush for EX-President!" stickers, etc. etc. etc...

Lol....well maybe there's hope for you yet....

[Skinhead]

It was a video I tell you.
Berghdahl is a brave hero !
How many more examples do you need?