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Luckily this lady was armed. The thug was carrying zip ties and a walkie talkie. My guess is the walkie talkie was to call his buds once he had her tied up. You might remember a preacher's wife was raped and murdered in Indy recently. The LEOs were able to use cell phone records to tie the perps to the crime. I'd say the criminals were trying to prevent that with the radio. I think laying on the floor covered with seeping holes when the police got there spoiled his plans! We all know which presidents and candidates wouldn't approve of this lady having the means to protect herself. http://bearingarms.com/indianapolis-mother-protects-infant-pistol/ |
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2016, 03:23:54 PM » |
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A dead offender is much better than a repeat offender. I think old Ted Nugent himself said that.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2016, 04:41:38 PM » |
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Get the worthless sumbitches to rethink B & E.  I'll bet the scumbag what got hisself shot is rethinking.  RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2016, 05:02:12 PM » |
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Good for her, kill every one of those worthless thugs. I have instructed my wife to keep shooting til he is not breathing if anyone breakes into our house while she is home. If that meas she has ro reload then so be it. I know how I would take care of it but it may be too barbaric for some lefties here.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2016, 02:09:12 AM » |
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just wish she coulda got out of him what the walkie talkie was for and where the other person was before calling 911, or misdailing 911 a few times
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2016, 06:43:25 AM » |
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... while understandably shaken, the homeowner and her infant were unharmed. "Understandably shaken" And that's how it happens when one has to use deadly force against another human being to protect oneself. The article says that she and the child were unharmed. That's not true. She was harmed and it will take her a good bit of time to get back to normal, if she ever does. I do not have it in me to celebrate when one has to damage or kill another to avoid being damaged oneself but I am pleased that she was prepared to defend herself and that the law still allows her to do so. My honest to goodness wish is that we would live in a world and culture in which good law abiding citizens do not need to arm themselves to protect their safety. We don't. |
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My honest to goodness wish is that we would live in a world and culture in which good law abiding citizens do not need to arm themselves to protect their safety. We don't.
I'm with you Carl, but it will never happen in this life. That is the difference, we know that but the liberal refuses to. It would interfere with his Utopia ideals.
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Far far TOO many of the other stories-the rat bastards hurting and/or killing good people. And YES Carl-Utopia Paradise would be nice-BUT reality bites everyone on da butt. And I also agree with Master Blaster-NOT gonna happen in our lifetimes.  Sad really the legacy that is being left. I TRY to follow the Boy Scot motto-be prepared. RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2016, 09:01:05 AM » |
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Since our local TV/internet news stations in Terre Haute didn't run this story I assumed/hoped they had missed it and sent an E mail to management at one of the stations with a link to it and suggested they run it. The murder of the ministers wife in Indy had been front page news for a week with their station. They replied that it wasn't local enough even though it took place in the same city (Indy) as the murder which is only 75 miles or so from here.
The real reason they didn't run it of course is because it shows gunowners and self-defense in a positive light. This is how the PC media tries to shape our world view. Without "social media" they would still be succeeding too.
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" "Understandably shaken" And that's how it happens when one has to use deadly force against another human being to protect oneself. The article says that she and the child were unharmed. That's not true. She was harmed and it will take her a good bit of time to get back to normal, if she ever does."
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" "Understandably shaken" And that's how it happens when one has to use deadly force against another human being to protect oneself. The article says that she and the child were unharmed. That's not true. She was harmed and it will take her a good bit of time to get back to normal, if she ever does."
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dan Apparently you missed the point. I'm so surprised. The point is that the traumatic experience of having to defend oneself and one's home at that level is indeed damaging. We often disregard that thinking that the person who avoided assault and possible murder will just go on with life unscathed. It doesn't happen that way. Damages are not limited to physical. That bad guy, whether he survives or does not, did long lasting damage to that young woman and that family. I believe I used the term harmed and you used the term hurt. It's alright. They're almost interchangeable. It is something that one needs to be prepared to do but it is not as easy as some from the outside seem to believe it to be. One last point I think was well made by another. They took him away to the hospital. If we are going to be prepared to defend ourselves we need to practice until hitting what we intend to where we intend to is automatic and instinctive. Some of that is practicing where to hit, twice to center mass (middle of the chest) and once to the face. Hitting what one is shooting at under pressure is no easy task. |
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" "Understandably shaken" And that's how it happens when one has to use deadly force against another human being to protect oneself. The article says that she and the child were unharmed. That's not true. She was harmed and it will take her a good bit of time to get back to normal, if she ever does."
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2016, 09:49:42 AM » |
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No pictures of the perp , do we get to guess. What is being hidden.
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2016, 10:00:29 AM » |
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Carl made a very good point. Taking a life even in one's own defense, will stick with you the rest of your life. It's not like video games. There are too many people out there who have no sense of reality.
Practicing with a firearm is one thing. Using it in defense is another. Very few can claim to know what they WILL DO when the chips are down. Some won't even be able to hit what they're aiming at.
The lady was physically unharmed AND she knew that she defended her child, plusses. She still will remember that time for a long time!
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2016, 10:05:50 AM » |
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"Have as much care and concern for their safety and well being as they have for yours".
Also same info when I bought all the girls in the family pepper spray.
They will have emotional damage though.
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2016, 11:33:00 AM » |
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Willow is right, at least sometimes for some people. Some will remember when a friend of mine stopped a plant shooting a few years ago after one person was dead. Like everyone he ran out of the plant, but he retrieved his pistol from his truck and got back just as another employee was about to be shot. When he confronted the shooter with his firearm, she dropped hers and waited on the police without more shots being fired. My bud, never fired his gun, just pointed it and told her he would if she didn't drop hers. He was fired, I posted what happened here along with an E mail address for the company president if memory serves and I contacted his local TV station asking them why the hero who stopped the plant shooting was fired. Between the members here contacting his plant and the news media showing up at the plant and asking about the firing he got his job back. He was standing in the unemployment line the way I understand it when the plant called him and told him they had made a mistake. Happy ending, right? Yes & no. He saved at least one life, beyond doubt I think, but. The shooter was non-white and the murdered employee was non-white. Many of the non-white employees were mad at him for interfering, he found himself in a constantly hostile work environment as I understand it. On top of that of course, no doubt management would be looking for a reason to fire him after all the embarrassment. For those and other reasons, probably due to the stress of the whole situation he left the job after a year or two and is still unemployed I think. He's around 60 which is pretty old for most of us to start over, career wise. He's doing OK, but I wonder if he would react the same if he could do it over knowing what it would cost him? I've had a shotgun pointed at my belly in anger before, it was stressful at the moment but had no lasting effects as far as I can tell.   But luckily in hindsight, I wasn't packing and was able defuse the situation without anyone being shot. I would assume if I'd had to defend myself by killing the guy I would have still been fine afterwards, but who knows? I don't, and I'm glad I don't. I think how you fare after such an event will depend on many things and really can't be predicted beforehand. But, winning and keeping your loved ones safe will always be preferable I think. |
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If you notice, the resident liberals won't touch this one. I'm glad the mother and baby were not hurt, only thing she did wrong was not killing him, he will be back in 6 months to rape and rob again. What exactly do you want the "resident liberals" to do ? Nothing meathead, nothing at all |
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If you notice, the resident liberals won't touch this one. I'm glad the mother and baby were not hurt, only thing she did wrong was not killing him, he will be back in 6 months to rape and rob again. What exactly do you want the "resident liberals" to do ? Nothing meathead, nothing at all Oh, you seemed a little disappointed  |
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If you notice, the resident liberals won't touch this one. I'm glad the mother and baby were not hurt, only thing she did wrong was not killing him, he will be back in 6 months to rape and rob again. What exactly do you want the "resident liberals" to do ? That's exactly right, meathead. This liberal didn't get involved because I happen to agree with protection. There are a few people in this group that are always looking for a scrap. Gavin's comment was totally uncalled for, not happy unless there's some drama. |
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If you notice, the resident liberals won't touch this one. I'm glad the mother and baby were not hurt, only thing she did wrong was not killing him, he will be back in 6 months to rape and rob again. What exactly do you want the "resident liberals" to do ? That's exactly right, meathead. This liberal didn't get involved because I happen to agree with protection. There are a few people in this group that are always looking for a scrap. Gavin's comment was totally uncalled for, not happy unless there's some drama. Well to be fair I've been known to jump in a scrap here from time to time. Just seemed kind of weird to me that some people would think that "liberals" would not be in favor of a Mom defending herself and her child. I guess it's a sign of the times.  |
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If you notice, the resident liberals won't touch this one. I'm glad the mother and baby were not hurt, only thing she did wrong was not killing him, he will be back in 6 months to rape and rob again. What exactly do you want the "resident liberals" to do ? That's exactly right, meathead. This liberal didn't get involved because I happen to agree with protection. There are a few people in this group that are always looking for a scrap. Gavin's comment was totally uncalled for, not happy unless there's some drama. Well to be fair I've been known to jump in a scrap here from time to time. Just seemed kind of weird to me that some people would think that "liberals" would not be in favor of a Mom defending herself and her child. I guess it's a sign of the times. Jumping in is one thing. I've been guilty of that once or twice.  Trying to start one is another. |
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I think the point Gavin was trying to make is that the Libs in DC are trying to prevent this very thing. Not the guy trying yo Rape/Rob but the woman from defending herself .
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I think the point Gavin was trying to make is that the Libs in DC are trying to prevent this very thing. Not the guy trying yo Rape/Rob but the woman from defending herself .
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... while understandably shaken, the homeowner and her infant were unharmed. "Understandably shaken" And that's how it happens when one has to use deadly force against another human being to protect oneself. The article says that she and the child were unharmed. That's not true. She was harmed and it will take her a good bit of time to get back to normal, if she ever does. I do not have it in me to celebrate when one has to damage or kill another to avoid being damaged oneself but I am pleased that she was prepared to defend herself and that the law still allows her to do so. My honest to goodness wish is that we would live in a world and culture in which good law abiding citizens do not need to arm themselves to protect their safety. We don't. Another solid post by Carl. |
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