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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2016, 05:57:55 AM »

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Donald  Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different
        enterprises:  Professional football, Ice Skating rinks, Fragrance, Ice, Steaks, Wines,  Model management, Airline, blenders, Men's wear, Bicycle races, world class  beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model management,  his firm has risen to the top of that particular  industry. 
I made it to here where the pile started getting high.
Off the top of my head:
He is credited with the downfall of the USFL. Not sure how successful that was to start with but he bucked heads with the other owners and tried to compete head to head in the fall with the NFL which tanked it.
His Trump steaks went under
His airline was repossessed.
With those touted as successes, I dont put a lot of faith in the rest of the "resume"
Not a big Trump fan.

Name me 3 very successful businessmen who haven't had some business failures.
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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2016, 06:09:09 AM »

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Donald  Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different
        enterprises:  Professional football, Ice Skating rinks, Fragrance, Ice, Steaks, Wines,  Model management, Airline, blenders, Men's wear, Bicycle races, world class  beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model management,  his firm has risen to the top of that particular  industry. 
I made it to here where the pile started getting high.
Off the top of my head:
He is credited with the downfall of the USFL. Not sure how successful that was to start with but he bucked heads with the other owners and tried to compete head to head in the fall with the NFL which tanked it.
His Trump steaks went under
His airline was repossessed.
With those touted as successes, I dont put a lot of faith in the rest of the "resume"


At least he has one and has not sealed his records.


psssst.....

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

And here's a list of other equally ridiculous eye-rollers...

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/

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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2016, 06:42:31 AM »

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Donald  Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different
        enterprises:  Professional football, Ice Skating rinks, Fragrance, Ice, Steaks, Wines,  Model management, Airline, blenders, Men's wear, Bicycle races, world class  beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model management,  his firm has risen to the top of that particular  industry. 
I made it to here where the pile started getting high.
Off the top of my head:
He is credited with the downfall of the USFL. Not sure how successful that was to start with but he bucked heads with the other owners and tried to compete head to head in the fall with the NFL which tanked it.
His Trump steaks went under
His airline was repossessed.
With those touted as successes, I dont put a lot of faith in the rest of the "resume"


At least he has one and has not sealed his records.


psssst.....

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

And here's a list of other equally ridiculous eye-rollers...

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/

 cooldude cooldude


I agree,, the fact there are sooo many conspiracies speaks volumes about confidence in him. You go find his college transcripts and post them if you find them.
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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2016, 06:52:53 AM »

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Donald  Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different
        enterprises:  Professional football, Ice Skating rinks, Fragrance, Ice, Steaks, Wines,  Model management, Airline, blenders, Men's wear, Bicycle races, world class  beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model management,  his firm has risen to the top of that particular  industry. 
I made it to here where the pile started getting high.
Off the top of my head:
He is credited with the downfall of the USFL. Not sure how successful that was to start with but he bucked heads with the other owners and tried to compete head to head in the fall with the NFL which tanked it.
His Trump steaks went under
His airline was repossessed.
With those touted as successes, I dont put a lot of faith in the rest of the "resume"


At least he has one and has not sealed his records.


psssst.....

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

And here's a list of other equally ridiculous eye-rollers...

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/

 cooldude cooldude


I agree,, the fact there are sooo many conspiracies speaks volumes about confidence in him. You go find his college transcripts and post them if you find them.


Bet they can't even find any students who remember being in class with him, or professors who remember teaching him.  Oh, well.  Just trivial stuff.
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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2016, 07:38:32 AM »

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Donald  Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different
        enterprises:  Professional football, Ice Skating rinks, Fragrance, Ice, Steaks, Wines,  Model management, Airline, blenders, Men's wear, Bicycle races, world class  beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model management,  his firm has risen to the top of that particular  industry. 
I made it to here where the pile started getting high.
Off the top of my head:
He is credited with the downfall of the USFL. Not sure how successful that was to start with but he bucked heads with the other owners and tried to compete head to head in the fall with the NFL which tanked it.
His Trump steaks went under
His airline was repossessed.
With those touted as successes, I dont put a lot of faith in the rest of the "resume"


At least he has one and has not sealed his records.


psssst.....

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

And here's a list of other equally ridiculous eye-rollers...

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/

 cooldude cooldude


Yup seen all these and figured you would site these but if you look at the last example I gave its actually the NJ courts. Its not hearsay or conspiracy its a fact. Also fact check gives the law, not what actually happened so its inaccurate in its assumption that the records were not sealed.

The first example is not hearsay either as its Newt Gingrich complaining about not revealing  his records

  The second example I gave stated that his books are fiction and that the journalists cannot get any information on him. So I did something a bit different so that your objections would be answered before you posted them. I can give many actual examples of actual court cases like the last one but that would take some more research. This does not talk about conspiracy at all its all fact.


Saying that conspirators are attacking Obama does not work when there is plenty of information to refute the supposed claim nut jobs are out to get him. I would say its nut jobs that still believe in Obama and think Sanders or Clinton would be a good president. I have not seen a more deceitful, destructive president in all the presidents we have had with the exception of Woodrow Wilson the president who signed the Federal Reserve into law.
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« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2016, 08:59:35 AM »

Obama has spent millions in the fight to not release his past history and has sealed a good deal of it.


Where did you get that little factoid?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why did Obama seal his transcripts?
Newt Gingrich made a similar appeal. As he told the Daily Caller, “I think every Obama request for transparency should be met with ‘do we get to see your senior paper at Columbia?'”
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/why-did-obama-seal-his-transcripts/


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/28/obama-ducks-calls-to-release-his-collegiate-transc/?page=all
But decades after Mr. Obama completed his own college course work, his academic performance is still a mystery. Before and after his election as president, Mr. Obama has refused to release his college transcripts from his days as an undergraduate and a law school student.

Most presidents’ academic records are made public by the time they reach the highest office in the land, either with their consent or by someone else digging them up.

“There’s no reason why people shouldn’t know,” said Stephen Hess, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who focuses on the presidency. “At this point, it’s pretty moot — perhaps amusing if it turned out that he didn’t do very well.”

But whenever Team Obama is asked about the president’s college performance, officials dodge the question, obviously with Mr. Obama’s blessing.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/the-mystery-of-barack-obama-continues/

Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record. This should concern all Americans.

A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this?

The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation


http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/04/10/constitution/obama-eligibility-nj-alj-ducks-issues/

About two-thirds of the way through the hearing, Hill admitted in open court something that no lawyer for the Obama campaign has ever admitted. Obama never furnished a true copy of his birth certificate to the New Jersey Secretary of State. Furthermore, the PDF file that the White House has served to the Internet since April 27, 2012, is not relevant to the case in any way.

Hill conceded this point after Apuzzo tried to call Brian Wilcox, an expert document analyst. He was ready to show that no one could rely on the PDF file as a substitute for a hard-copy long-form birth certificate. But Judge Masin said at once that neither he nor Secretary of State Kim Guadagno had ever seen a birth certificate, whether on paper, as a PDF file, or on the Internet. He told Apuzzo that calling Wilcox would be “premature.”

Then Masin turned to Hill and asked her directly:

    Is it your legal position that the document on the Internet is irrelevant to this case?

Hill replied, “Yes.” Masin then asked:

    And indeed you concede that Mr. Obama has not produced an alleged birth certificate to the Secretary of State.

Hill at first said, “It has been released nationally,” but then admitted that she did not know personally that Obama had given any such document to the Secretary of State, nor did she intend giving such a document to the court today. But she also argued, after Judge Masin asked her repeatedly, that Obama need not produce any evidence at all.

Apuzzo told CNAV during a recess in the hearing that this was the most stunning thing that any lawyer for Obama had ever admitted, in an Obama eligibility case or in any other case. When the hearing finally adjourned at 12:30 p.m., Apuzzo was confident of prevailing on this point. He observed that Hill, after objecting to everything that Apuzzo tried to introduce into evidence, offered no evidence on her own behalf and even admitted that the infamous PDF

Apuzzo could not explain how Judge Masin could rule that way, after observing in open court that neither Obama nor his surrogates had shown that he was born in Hawaii.

Within two hours, according to a deadline that Masin gave him, Apuzzo filed an exception to Masin’s ruling. Apuzzo took exception to the following:

    Judge Masin ruled that Obama was born in Hawaii with no evidence on record, after acknowledging that fact during the hearing.
    Judge Masin ruled that Obama need not comply with statute to show that he is eligible, solely because he need not “consent” to someone circulating a nominating petition for him.
    The judge suggested that Obama might have to show eligibility later. He laid no basis for such a ruling.
    The judge misread the precedents and gave short shrift to the historical evidence that the Framers of the Constitution defined “natural-born citizen” as one born in-country to two citizen parents. Apuzzo devoted half of his 30-page exception to this analysis alone.


What a far cry from Trump or any other candidate for that matter.




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« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2016, 10:37:57 AM »

Obama has spent millions in the fight to not release his past history and has sealed a good deal of it.


Where did you get that little factoid?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why did Obama seal his transcripts?
Newt Gingrich made a similar appeal. As he told the Daily Caller, “I think every Obama request for transparency should be met with ‘do we get to see your senior paper at Columbia?'”
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/why-did-obama-seal-his-transcripts/


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/28/obama-ducks-calls-to-release-his-collegiate-transc/?page=all
But decades after Mr. Obama completed his own college course work, his academic performance is still a mystery. Before and after his election as president, Mr. Obama has refused to release his college transcripts from his days as an undergraduate and a law school student.

Most presidents’ academic records are made public by the time they reach the highest office in the land, either with their consent or by someone else digging them up.

“There’s no reason why people shouldn’t know,” said Stephen Hess, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who focuses on the presidency. “At this point, it’s pretty moot — perhaps amusing if it turned out that he didn’t do very well.”

But whenever Team Obama is asked about the president’s college performance, officials dodge the question, obviously with Mr. Obama’s blessing.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/the-mystery-of-barack-obama-continues/

Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record. This should concern all Americans.

A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this?

The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation


http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/04/10/constitution/obama-eligibility-nj-alj-ducks-issues/

About two-thirds of the way through the hearing, Hill admitted in open court something that no lawyer for the Obama campaign has ever admitted. Obama never furnished a true copy of his birth certificate to the New Jersey Secretary of State. Furthermore, the PDF file that the White House has served to the Internet since April 27, 2012, is not relevant to the case in any way.

Hill conceded this point after Apuzzo tried to call Brian Wilcox, an expert document analyst. He was ready to show that no one could rely on the PDF file as a substitute for a hard-copy long-form birth certificate. But Judge Masin said at once that neither he nor Secretary of State Kim Guadagno had ever seen a birth certificate, whether on paper, as a PDF file, or on the Internet. He told Apuzzo that calling Wilcox would be “premature.”

Then Masin turned to Hill and asked her directly:

    Is it your legal position that the document on the Internet is irrelevant to this case?

Hill replied, “Yes.” Masin then asked:

    And indeed you concede that Mr. Obama has not produced an alleged birth certificate to the Secretary of State.

Hill at first said, “It has been released nationally,” but then admitted that she did not know personally that Obama had given any such document to the Secretary of State, nor did she intend giving such a document to the court today. But she also argued, after Judge Masin asked her repeatedly, that Obama need not produce any evidence at all.

Apuzzo told CNAV during a recess in the hearing that this was the most stunning thing that any lawyer for Obama had ever admitted, in an Obama eligibility case or in any other case. When the hearing finally adjourned at 12:30 p.m., Apuzzo was confident of prevailing on this point. He observed that Hill, after objecting to everything that Apuzzo tried to introduce into evidence, offered no evidence on her own behalf and even admitted that the infamous PDF

Apuzzo could not explain how Judge Masin could rule that way, after observing in open court that neither Obama nor his surrogates had shown that he was born in Hawaii.

Within two hours, according to a deadline that Masin gave him, Apuzzo filed an exception to Masin’s ruling. Apuzzo took exception to the following:

    Judge Masin ruled that Obama was born in Hawaii with no evidence on record, after acknowledging that fact during the hearing.
    Judge Masin ruled that Obama need not comply with statute to show that he is eligible, solely because he need not “consent” to someone circulating a nominating petition for him.
    The judge suggested that Obama might have to show eligibility later. He laid no basis for such a ruling.
    The judge misread the precedents and gave short shrift to the historical evidence that the Framers of the Constitution defined “natural-born citizen” as one born in-country to two citizen parents. Apuzzo devoted half of his 30-page exception to this analysis alone.


What a far cry from Trump or any other candidate for that matter.




 coolsmiley





lolol.....this is really good. Are you really quoting Newt Gingrich???  2funny crazy2

That's quite a post...I wouldn't know where to begin. I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit out of the realm of reality. How do you feel about the moon landings, Bigfoot, chemtrails, Loch Ness? They all share the same thing....guess what that is.

I really can't spend any more time on this.

Thank you for the entertainment.
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« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2016, 10:44:08 AM »

So long, then!   cooldude
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« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2016, 11:25:25 AM »

Obama has spent millions in the fight to not release his past history and has sealed a good deal of it.


Where did you get that little factoid?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why did Obama seal his transcripts?
Newt Gingrich made a similar appeal. As he told the Daily Caller, “I think every Obama request for transparency should be met with ‘do we get to see your senior paper at Columbia?'”
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/why-did-obama-seal-his-transcripts/


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/28/obama-ducks-calls-to-release-his-collegiate-transc/?page=all
But decades after Mr. Obama completed his own college course work, his academic performance is still a mystery. Before and after his election as president, Mr. Obama has refused to release his college transcripts from his days as an undergraduate and a law school student.

Most presidents’ academic records are made public by the time they reach the highest office in the land, either with their consent or by someone else digging them up.

“There’s no reason why people shouldn’t know,” said Stephen Hess, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who focuses on the presidency. “At this point, it’s pretty moot — perhaps amusing if it turned out that he didn’t do very well.”

But whenever Team Obama is asked about the president’s college performance, officials dodge the question, obviously with Mr. Obama’s blessing.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/the-mystery-of-barack-obama-continues/

Researchers have discovered that Obama’s autobiographical books are little more than PR stunts, as they have little to do with the actual events of his life. The fact is we know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record. This should concern all Americans.

A nation-wide network of researchers has sprung up to attempt to fill in the blanks, but at every opportunity Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this?

The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation


http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/04/10/constitution/obama-eligibility-nj-alj-ducks-issues/

About two-thirds of the way through the hearing, Hill admitted in open court something that no lawyer for the Obama campaign has ever admitted. Obama never furnished a true copy of his birth certificate to the New Jersey Secretary of State. Furthermore, the PDF file that the White House has served to the Internet since April 27, 2012, is not relevant to the case in any way.

Hill conceded this point after Apuzzo tried to call Brian Wilcox, an expert document analyst. He was ready to show that no one could rely on the PDF file as a substitute for a hard-copy long-form birth certificate. But Judge Masin said at once that neither he nor Secretary of State Kim Guadagno had ever seen a birth certificate, whether on paper, as a PDF file, or on the Internet. He told Apuzzo that calling Wilcox would be “premature.”

Then Masin turned to Hill and asked her directly:

    Is it your legal position that the document on the Internet is irrelevant to this case?

Hill replied, “Yes.” Masin then asked:

    And indeed you concede that Mr. Obama has not produced an alleged birth certificate to the Secretary of State.

Hill at first said, “It has been released nationally,” but then admitted that she did not know personally that Obama had given any such document to the Secretary of State, nor did she intend giving such a document to the court today. But she also argued, after Judge Masin asked her repeatedly, that Obama need not produce any evidence at all.

Apuzzo told CNAV during a recess in the hearing that this was the most stunning thing that any lawyer for Obama had ever admitted, in an Obama eligibility case or in any other case. When the hearing finally adjourned at 12:30 p.m., Apuzzo was confident of prevailing on this point. He observed that Hill, after objecting to everything that Apuzzo tried to introduce into evidence, offered no evidence on her own behalf and even admitted that the infamous PDF

Apuzzo could not explain how Judge Masin could rule that way, after observing in open court that neither Obama nor his surrogates had shown that he was born in Hawaii.

Within two hours, according to a deadline that Masin gave him, Apuzzo filed an exception to Masin’s ruling. Apuzzo took exception to the following:

    Judge Masin ruled that Obama was born in Hawaii with no evidence on record, after acknowledging that fact during the hearing.
    Judge Masin ruled that Obama need not comply with statute to show that he is eligible, solely because he need not “consent” to someone circulating a nominating petition for him.
    The judge suggested that Obama might have to show eligibility later. He laid no basis for such a ruling.
    The judge misread the precedents and gave short shrift to the historical evidence that the Framers of the Constitution defined “natural-born citizen” as one born in-country to two citizen parents. Apuzzo devoted half of his 30-page exception to this analysis alone.


What a far cry from Trump or any other candidate for that matter.




 coolsmiley





lolol.....this is really good. Are you really quoting Newt Gingrich???  2funny crazy2

That's quite a post...I wouldn't know where to begin. I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit out of the realm of reality. How do you feel about the moon landings, Bigfoot, chemtrails, Loch Ness? They all share the same thing....guess what that is.

I really can't spend any more time on this.

Thank you for the entertainment.


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« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2016, 11:38:55 AM »

I'd cheerily vote for Attila the Hun if the alternative was Hillary, but no fan of Trump, he's liberal in all the wrong ways and conservative in (mostly) all the wrong ways.

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« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2016, 11:55:05 AM »

I'd cheerily vote for Attila the Hun if the alternative was Hillary, but no fan of Trump, he's liberal in all the wrong ways and conservative in (mostly) all the wrong ways.


The thing I find confusing about the guy is, he seems to be driven to win at whatever cost it takes. But I'm not sure if he wins he will have the drive to do the job afterwards. He seems to want to be the winner but after that I don't think he really cares.
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« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2016, 12:26:12 PM »

I'd cheerily vote for Attila the Hun if the alternative was Hillary, but no fan of Trump, he's liberal in all the wrong ways and conservative in (mostly) all the wrong ways.


The thing I find confusing about the guy is, he seems to be driven to win at whatever cost it takes. But I'm not sure if he wins he will have the drive to do the job afterwards. He seems to want to be the winner but after that I don't think he really cares.

You dont think really he cares , based on what exactly ?  If that is your opinion then ok , just thought you knew some fact we didn't .

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« Reply #52 on: May 17, 2016, 12:36:50 PM »

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Donald  Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different
        enterprises:  Professional football, Ice Skating rinks, Fragrance, Ice, Steaks, Wines,  Model management, Airline, blenders, Men's wear, Bicycle races, world class  beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model management,  his firm has risen to the top of that particular  industry. 
I made it to here where the pile started getting high.
Off the top of my head:
He is credited with the downfall of the USFL. Not sure how successful that was to start with but he bucked heads with the other owners and tried to compete head to head in the fall with the NFL which tanked it.
His Trump steaks went under
His airline was repossessed.
With those touted as successes, I dont put a lot of faith in the rest of the "resume"

Not a big Trump fan.

Name me 3 very successful businessmen who haven't had some business failures.


I hope Bernie is better at  money management than his wife.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3593384/Money-troubles-close-college-headed-Sanders-wife.html
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« Reply #53 on: May 17, 2016, 12:37:31 PM »

Well yes it is just an opinion. But I base it on his personality and what he has written in his books.  He seems very driven to win deals and be #1. But it seems he has no core beliefs that make him want to guide the country. He appears to have a strong desire in his business and personal life to be the Top Dog, but unlike someone like Reagan he doesn't have strong values guiding him. Just a humble meathead opinion. It's very entirely possible I'm dead wrong.  But I just don't see any core values from the guy other than wanting to be "The Man"
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« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2016, 01:41:46 PM »


lolol.....this is really good. Are you really quoting Newt Gingrich???  2funny crazy2

That's quite a post...I wouldn't know where to begin. I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit out of the realm of reality. How do you feel about the moon landings, Bigfoot, chemtrails, Loch Ness? They all share the same thing....guess what that is.

I really can't spend any more time on this.

Thank you for the entertainment.

I wouldn't expect you to know where to begin either. Quick glib statements cannot refute the trash that O has done that is there in black and white. I also agree that this is getting out of the realm of reality that is why O is the most disliked president we have had. We dont know the price we are going to have to pay in the future for the policies that O has setup today either.
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« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2016, 03:40:56 PM »

I think Trump has the ability, that they talk about in institutional investor courses, to think in the imperial we and to put himself in a situation

One great example is the central park skating rink disaster that he solved
Going the other way the decision to NOT be a further part of Atlantic city casinos is another example

One of my favorite movie quotes is from War Games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpmGXeAtWUw
"The only winning move is not to play"

I am not playing Obama or Hillary's gameand neither is Trump
Does his arrogance bother me, maybe just a little, but the ability to see what is there and to actually speak about it is much more important to me  so much so that this lifelong democrat is voting for Trump

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« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2016, 03:53:49 PM »


lolol.....this is really good. Are you really quoting Newt Gingrich???  2funny crazy2

That's quite a post...I wouldn't know where to begin. I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit out of the realm of reality. How do you feel about the moon landings, Bigfoot, chemtrails, Loch Ness? They all share the same thing....guess what that is.

I really can't spend any more time on this.

Thank you for the entertainment.

I wouldn't expect you to know where to begin either. Quick glib statements cannot refute the trash that O has done that is there in black and white. I also agree that this is getting out of the realm of reality that is why O is the most disliked president we have had. We dont know the price we are going to have to pay in the future for the policies that O has setup today either.
"The most disliked President we've had" ? I looked in a few places and it seems there are many ranked below him. Most disliked President on the VRCC board. No question  Wink
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« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2016, 04:07:32 PM »


lolol.....this is really good. Are you really quoting Newt Gingrich???  2funny crazy2

That's quite a post...I wouldn't know where to begin. I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit out of the realm of reality. How do you feel about the moon landings, Bigfoot, chemtrails, Loch Ness? They all share the same thing....guess what that is.

I really can't spend any more time on this.

Thank you for the entertainment.


I wouldn't expect you to know where to begin either. Quick glib statements cannot refute the trash that O has done that is there in black and white. I also agree that this is getting out of the realm of reality that is why O is the most disliked president we have had. We dont know the price we are going to have to pay in the future for the policies that O has setup today either.
"The most disliked President we've had" ? I looked in a few places and it seems there are many ranked below him. Most disliked President on the VRCC board. No question  Wink


http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2014/07/02/americans-vote-obama-worst-the-president-since-world-war-ii

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« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2016, 05:28:25 PM »


lolol.....this is really good. Are you really quoting Newt Gingrich???  2funny crazy2

That's quite a post...I wouldn't know where to begin. I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit out of the realm of reality. How do you feel about the moon landings, Bigfoot, chemtrails, Loch Ness? They all share the same thing....guess what that is.

I really can't spend any more time on this.

Thank you for the entertainment.


I wouldn't expect you to know where to begin either. Quick glib statements cannot refute the trash that O has done that is there in black and white. I also agree that this is getting out of the realm of reality that is why O is the most disliked president we have had. We dont know the price we are going to have to pay in the future for the policies that O has setup today either.
"The most disliked President we've had" ? I looked in a few places and it seems there are many ranked below him. Most disliked President on the VRCC board. No question  Wink


http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2014/07/02/americans-vote-obama-worst-the-president-since-world-war-ii




 Shocked say it ain't so, our beloved president Obama is the worst? Holy cow, I did not even see this coming, how can this be true with all, the great things he has done?  Cheesy
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« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2016, 06:48:54 PM »

one thing I know this current president accomplished for sure

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« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2016, 06:52:09 PM »

Always good for a laugh (but no laughing matter)

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« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2016, 03:33:43 AM »


http://www.cbn.com/tv/4246747370001?mobile=false  Trump video

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/jesusneedsnewpr/2011/04/donald-trumps-interview-with-the-700-club.html
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« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2016, 03:43:58 AM »

I think its all good now, Donald and Megan kissed and made up last night.
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« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2016, 02:26:43 PM »

Always good for a laugh (but no laughing matter)





so only clinton wasn't in the military?
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« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2016, 03:50:43 PM »

Always good for a laugh (but no laughing matter)





so only clinton wasn't in the military?


Yeah thats what I see also.  uglystupid2
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« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2016, 04:00:23 PM »

One more thing we just learned about Trump. I don't remember which poll it was, but, he is beating hillary.
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« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2016, 03:02:34 AM »

Always good for a laugh (but no laughing matter)





so only clinton wasn't in the military?


Yeah thats what I see also.  uglystupid2


muslims are at war with the world, so hussan is in his military uniform, he has partially destroyed this country and wait and see what he does until he is gone. and congress will just sit there and watch.
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« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2016, 04:26:22 AM »

Always good for a laugh (but no laughing matter)





so only clinton wasn't in the military?


Yeah thats what I see also.  uglystupid2


muslims are at war with the world, so hussan is in his military uniform, he has partially destroyed this country and wait and see what he does until he is gone. and congress will just sit there and watch.


Agree. Sadly, I think he hates America.

If we see the end of his term without a major war breaking out or some other disaster of his making it will be because the American people's prayers have been answered.
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« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2016, 05:07:16 AM »

i think the point was, everyone was in a US Military uniform except Billy, and Obama.
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« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2016, 06:21:22 AM »

Always good for a laugh (but no laughing matter)





so only clinton wasn't in the military?


Yeah thats what I see also.  uglystupid2


muslims are at war with the world, so hussan is in his military uniform, he has partially destroyed this country and wait and see what he does until he is gone. and congress will just sit there and watch.


Agree. Sadly, I think he hates America.

If we see the end of his term without a major war breaking out or some other disaster of his making it will be because the American people's prayers have been answered.








Apparently he is not willing to admit we are at war, but, he has been at war longer than any other president.
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« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2016, 06:58:17 AM »

Apparently he is not willing to admit we are at war, but, he has been at war longer than any other president.

We're paying the price for weakness.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk

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« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2016, 07:39:59 AM »

Haven't heard anything like this in a long while. 

And it's refreshing to remember true leadership.
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« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2016, 08:39:20 AM »

Apparently he is not willing to admit we are at war, but, he has been at war longer than any other president.

We're paying the price for weakness.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk



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« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2016, 08:48:13 AM »

Apparently he is not willing to admit we are at war, but, he has been at war longer than any other president.

We're paying the price for weakness.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk

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