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« Reply #80 on: September 16, 2016, 10:27:53 AM » |
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Media matter is a very far left wing commie organization funded by George Saros. Not worth wiping your butt with. I myself was saying back in the early 90's when I became very aware of others that had been around the Clinton's of what they were like. The eyes, smell and duck test told me at the time that they ran themselves much like a mafia organization and it was plain as day to me darn near 25 years ago. Nothing has changed.
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« Reply #81 on: September 16, 2016, 10:29:39 AM » |
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Media matter is a very far left wing commie organization funded by George Saros. Not worth wiping your butt with. I myself was saying back in the early 90's when I became very aware of others that had been around the Clinton's of what they were like. The eyes, smell and duck test told me at the time that they ran themselves much like a mafia organization and it was plain as day to me darn near 25 years ago. Nothing has changed.
Does the source change the facts? No, I didn't think so. Facts? Facts! We done need no steenkin facts man. |
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« Reply #82 on: September 16, 2016, 11:05:01 AM » |
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Facts?
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We done need no steenkin facts man.
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« Reply #83 on: September 16, 2016, 11:55:41 AM » |
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.... It seems it is prevalent all thru our society. I didn't read the article posted in its entirety. As for Colin Powell, can you see the possibility that race played no part in his endorsement but that he thought Obama was the better choice ? I have seen nothing in his life to point to race favoritism.
It does and all too often we attribute the most vocal in our midst to representing the majority. The thing that makes me suspect that racial allegiance played a part was that much of what Barrack Obama stands for is in opposition to the standards that General Powell had previously endorsed and then his criticism of the birth concern being purely racist. Is there another way to explain the "Birther" issue ? Which by the way seems to be back front and center with Trump. I hope you'll excuse me for saying that is a rather stupid question. The birth location question was raised by folks who didn't want Barrack Obama to be president and were reaching for a possible legal disqualification. To jump to the conclusion that it is racist one would have to assume that the reason that folks didn't want him as president was based solely upon his race. Perhaps that leap is most easily made by those who's desire to have him elected was based primarily upon his race. Just so you know where I stand I think Barrack Obama was an incredible bad choice for chief executive. I would've voted for Condeleezza Rice in a heartbeat. |
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« Reply #84 on: September 16, 2016, 12:16:04 PM » |
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Maybe it is a stupid question. It seems pretty evident to me there is racism in this world. I think some will use whatever they can dredge up to implement said racism. Not all who are opposed to Obama are racists. And I'm sure it's not the 50% that Clinton bandied around. But I'm sure it is a significant amount. To continue with the Birther BS after almost 8 years leaves not many reasons in my mind other than racism.
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« Reply #85 on: September 16, 2016, 12:48:16 PM » |
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Maybe it is a stupid question. It seems pretty evident to me there is racism in this world. I think some will use whatever they can dredge up to implement said racism. Not all who are opposed to Obama are racists. And I'm sure it's not the 50% that Clinton bandied around. But I'm sure it is a significant amount. To continue with the Birther BS after almost 8 years leaves not many reasons in my mind other than racism.
That you refer to the question as "Birther BS" indicates that you are not very open minded about it. That you jump to the conclusion that one can't be opposed to Barrack Obama for eight years without being motivated by his race speaks volumes. You know what a-s-s-u-m-e does? I have not seen anything that convinced me that Barrack Obama was born in Hawaii. I don't push on it a lot as I'm not entirely convinced that the born-in-the-USA qualification is reasonably meaningful. I'm not that excited about Barrack Obama being removed from office at this time because I'm convinced that one of the few persons who would make a worse president that Barrack Obama is Joe Biden and if both of those were removed it would leave John Kerry? I just don't see a good way out at this time short of the next election. Racism. Where does it show itself? I'm pretty sure if the number of voters who voted for Barrack Obama specifically and largely only because of his race had not he would have lost both elections. Is that racism? I think it is. That Barrack Obama jumps on the bandwagon to decry the victimization of a black thug shot while he was beating on a latin man or a big black young man who was attacking repeatedly a Missouri police officer may be racism. I think it is. I'm pretty sure the "race card" is being thrown around in the wrong situations. We're messed upright now compared to where we were a few short years ago for inter-race relations. I'm one who is not entirely certain whether Barrack is the cause or the effect. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't automatically assume that anyone who questions Barrack Obama's qualifications is a racist or doing so for racial reasons. |
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« Reply #86 on: September 16, 2016, 12:59:54 PM » |
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Wow just Wow. I heard Dick Morris in an interview ( off all places ) on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory a few weeks ago as I was going to bed. Now Dick Morris as many know was a 20 year ( 78 to 98 ) key political chief advisor and knows the Clintons better than they know themselves. He said they always seemed to invision themselves and run themselves much like a gangster or mafia operation ( Al Capone type ) would. I guess that explains a lot of their traits ( maybe the dead bodies also ). Now they are clearly shown to run schemes to bilk poorer ( and maybe some not so poor just small donors ) of their hard earned money. WHO IS REALLY THE DEPLORABLE? You mean THIS Dick Morris? How bad do you have to be to get fired by Fox? http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/02/06/so-wrong-so-long-dick-morris-unethical-career-a/192548Hummmm. shoot the messenger not the message - ie. "i have no defense of what he said so let me deflect". No, it's more like why listen to someone who's proven to be, shall we say, less than reliable. This really isn't that difficult, guys. But I guess it's easier to respond as you did. Ooh, I see like Hillary. |
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« Reply #87 on: September 16, 2016, 01:16:25 PM » |
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Wow just Wow. I heard Dick Morris in an interview ( off all places ) on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory a few weeks ago as I was going to bed. Now Dick Morris as many know was a 20 year ( 78 to 98 ) key political chief advisor and knows the Clintons better than they know themselves. He said they always seemed to invision themselves and run themselves much like a gangster or mafia operation ( Al Capone type ) would. I guess that explains a lot of their traits ( maybe the dead bodies also ). Now they are clearly shown to run schemes to bilk poorer ( and maybe some not so poor just small donors ) of their hard earned money. WHO IS REALLY THE DEPLORABLE? You mean THIS Dick Morris? How bad do you have to be to get fired by Fox? http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/02/06/so-wrong-so-long-dick-morris-unethical-career-a/192548Hummmm. shoot the messenger not the message - ie. "i have no defense of what he said so let me deflect". No, it's more like why listen to someone who's proven to be, shall we say, less than reliable. This really isn't that difficult, guys. Like why would you listen to Hillary? |
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« Reply #88 on: September 16, 2016, 01:27:43 PM » |
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Maybe it is a stupid question. It seems pretty evident to me there is racism in this world. I think some will use whatever they can dredge up to implement said racism. Not all who are opposed to Obama are racists. And I'm sure it's not the 50% that Clinton bandied around. But I'm sure it is a significant amount. To continue with the Birther BS after almost 8 years leaves not many reasons in my mind other than racism.
All Obama has to do is present an unaltered certified birth certificate to answer the question. And do not say he has because he has NOT. A larger question may be why has he not presented one??? As for RACISM, yes it is alive and well and will be so long after all of us are gone. There has never been a time when it did not exist and there never will be. So get over it and do the best you can. It is human nature and ingrained into the human social structure. I find that the most racist folks are those that play the race card, Yeh like Obama. |
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« Reply #89 on: September 16, 2016, 01:40:32 PM » |
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Maybe it is a stupid question. It seems pretty evident to me there is racism in this world. I think some will use whatever they can dredge up to implement said racism. Not all who are opposed to Obama are racists. And I'm sure it's not the 50% that Clinton bandied around. But I'm sure it is a significant amount. To continue with the Birther BS after almost 8 years leaves not many reasons in my mind other than racism.
All Obama has to do is present an unaltered certified birth certificate to answer the question. And do not say he has because he has NOT. A larger question may be why has he not presented one??? As for RACISM, yes it is alive and well and will be so long after all of us are gone. There has never been a time when it did not exist and there never will be. So get over it and do the best you can. It is human nature and ingrained into the human social structure. I find that the most racist folks are those that play the race card, Yeh like Obama. Well, it looks like you just made my point for me.  |
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« Reply #90 on: September 16, 2016, 01:43:30 PM » |
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Well, it looks like you just made my point for me. You caught that, too, eh? |
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« Reply #91 on: September 16, 2016, 01:45:01 PM » |
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Wow just Wow. I heard Dick Morris in an interview ( off all places ) on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory a few weeks ago as I was going to bed. Now Dick Morris as many know was a 20 year ( 78 to 98 ) key political chief advisor and knows the Clintons better than they know themselves. He said they always seemed to invision themselves and run themselves much like a gangster or mafia operation ( Al Capone type ) would. I guess that explains a lot of their traits ( maybe the dead bodies also ). Now they are clearly shown to run schemes to bilk poorer ( and maybe some not so poor just small donors ) of their hard earned money. WHO IS REALLY THE DEPLORABLE? You mean THIS Dick Morris? How bad do you have to be to get fired by Fox? http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/02/06/so-wrong-so-long-dick-morris-unethical-career-a/192548Hummmm. shoot the messenger not the message - ie. "i have no defense of what he said so let me deflect". No, it's more like why listen to someone who's proven to be, shall we say, less than reliable. This really isn't that difficult, guys. But I guess it's easier to respond as you did. Ooh, I see like Hillary. What is this, see who gets the last word?. I win! |
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« Reply #92 on: September 16, 2016, 01:56:04 PM » |
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Maybe it is a stupid question. It seems pretty evident to me there is racism in this world. I think some will use whatever they can dredge up to implement said racism. Not all who are opposed to Obama are racists. And I'm sure it's not the 50% that Clinton bandied around. But I'm sure it is a significant amount. To continue with the Birther BS after almost 8 years leaves not many reasons in my mind other than racism.
All Obama has to do is present an unaltered certified birth certificate to answer the question. And do not say he has because he has NOT. A larger question may be why has he not presented one??? As for RACISM, yes it is alive and well and will be so long after all of us are gone. There has never been a time when it did not exist and there never will be. So get over it and do the best you can. It is human nature and ingrained into the human social structure. I find that the most racist folks are those that play the race card, Yeh like Obama. Well, it looks like you just made my point for me. If that is what you want to think, feel free to think so. You may want to reread it as you missed the points. |
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« Reply #93 on: September 16, 2016, 02:02:34 PM » |
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Wow just Wow. I heard Dick Morris in an interview ( off all places ) on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory a few weeks ago as I was going to bed. Now Dick Morris as many know was a 20 year ( 78 to 98 ) key political chief advisor and knows the Clintons better than they know themselves. He said they always seemed to invision themselves and run themselves much like a gangster or mafia operation ( Al Capone type ) would. I guess that explains a lot of their traits ( maybe the dead bodies also ). Now they are clearly shown to run schemes to bilk poorer ( and maybe some not so poor just small donors ) of their hard earned money. WHO IS REALLY THE DEPLORABLE? You mean THIS Dick Morris? How bad do you have to be to get fired by Fox? http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/02/06/so-wrong-so-long-dick-morris-unethical-career-a/192548Hummmm. shoot the messenger not the message - ie. "i have no defense of what he said so let me deflect". No, it's more like why listen to someone who's proven to be, shall we say, less than reliable. This really isn't that difficult, guys. But I guess it's easier to respond as you did. Ooh, I see like Hillary. What is this, see who gets the last word?. I win! OK you win, I do not care. Anyone who is critical of others truthfulness surely must be astounded at what Hillary does on a daily basis. Right? |
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« Reply #94 on: September 16, 2016, 02:15:16 PM » |
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Well, it looks like you just made my point for me. You caught that, too, eh? You two folks are really into this reality denial thing. It is ok, have fun, and do not let reality intrude. |
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« Reply #97 on: September 16, 2016, 05:25:47 PM » |
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Heard a Democrat expert talking on NPR today. He said that Hillary doesn't get many going to her rallies because Democrats don't do that sort of thing. As they wouldn't go to stand and watch a marathon for example. Hmmmm. I wonder who the people are protesting in the streets of various cities? Blocking traffic, burning down business premises etc etc.  They just can't stop lying. |
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