Presidential election results?

[Rams]

According to NBC News, 45% of Republicans may not accept the results of this election.

Personally, I don't see that we have much choice unless there's an uprising.

Don't think that'll happen until after Hillary gets enough SCOTUS Justices in place to overturn gun laws.   Not the Second Amendment, but enough restrictions that it becomes impossible to carry, buy or own weapons of self-defense.  

[Robert]

Personally, I don't see that we have much choice unless there's an uprising.

 

Could this be the very reason for all the preparation for the continuation of government we see?

[The emperor has no clothes]

According to NBC News, 45% of Republicans may not accept the results of this election.

Personally, I don't see that we have much choice unless there's an uprising.

Don't think that'll happen until after Hillary gets enough SCOTUS Justices in place to overturn gun laws.   Not the Second Amendment, but enough restrictions that it become impossible to carry, buy or own weapons of self-defense.   

We will just hear the constant bitching as with the last 8 years.

[Rams]

According to NBC News, 45% of Republicans may not accept the results of this election.

Personally, I don't see that we have much choice unless there's an uprising.

Don't think that'll happen until after Hillary gets enough SCOTUS Justices in place to overturn gun laws.   Not the Second Amendment, but enough restrictions that it become impossible to carry, buy or own weapons of self-defense.   

We will just hear the constant bitching as with the last 8 years.

Pretty sure there's going to be constant bitching regardless of who wins.   That's called freedom of speech.   But, this nation is becoming more divided with each election.   Eventually, there will be a line drawn and when crossed, this country will explode.    That, is my prediction. 

Compromise or middle ground is getting tougher to find.  Will it be sooner or later is the only question IMHO.

[The emperor has no clothes]

According to NBC News, 45% of Republicans may not accept the results of this election.

Personally, I don't see that we have much choice unless there's an uprising.

Don't think that'll happen until after Hillary gets enough SCOTUS Justices in place to overturn gun laws.   Not the Second Amendment, but enough restrictions that it become impossible to carry, buy or own weapons of self-defense.   

We will just hear the constant bitching as with the last 8 years.

Pretty sure there's going to be constant bitching regardless of who wins.   That's called freedom of speech.   But, this nation is becoming more divided with each election.   Eventually, there will be a line drawn and when crossed, this country will explode.    That, is my prediction. 

Compromise or middle ground is getting tougher to find.  Will it be sooner or later is the only question IMHO.

Predicting the future is problematic. At least for me. But for the sake of a hypothetical discussion. Let's say Clinton gets elected. Let's say she balances the budget. Let's say the economy improves. Let's say she doesn't take your guns. Will the right be happy for our country ? Doubtful in my opinion.

[Jess from VA]

I didn't vote.  Like Trump, I will wait and see what happens.  If massive or widespread fraud occurs and can be proven, I would like that fraud negated.

I would certainly prefer that any and all irregularities be remedied before the election, and I would hate like hell to go through another election decided in the courts, but I sure don't want an election result based on fraud (assuming it's close enough that fraud actually effected the outcome).

I have never accepted Zero as MY president and I will never accept HRC as my president.  I am against them as enemies of my country every bit as much as Hitler, Stalin and Mao (the only difference being that those men wanted to destroy my county from without, while these so-called presidents would do so from within).

God Bless the USA, God Damn all leftist tyrants (and RHINOs and the Free crap Army too) who would forever change my country from what the Constitution and our founding fathers intended.

Give me liberty, or give me death.  

[baldo]

I didn't vote.  Like Trump, I will wait and see what happens.  If massive or widespread fraud occurs and can be proven, I would like that fraud negated.

I would certainly prefer that any and all irregularities be remedied before the election, and I would hate like hell to go through another election decided in the courts, but I sure don't want an election result based on fraud (assuming it's close enough that fraud actually effected the outcome).

I have never accepted Zero as MY president and I will never accept HRC as my president.  I am against them as enemies of my country every bit as much as Hitler, Stalin and Mao (the only difference being that those men wanted to destroy my county from without, while these so-called presidents would do so from within).

God Bless the USA, God Damn all leftist tyrants (and RHINOs and the Free crap Army too) who would forever change my country from what the Constitution and our founding fathers intended.

Give me liberty, or give me death.  

Tell us how you really feel, Jess.....

[Rams]

Predicting the future is problematic. At least for me. But for the sake of a hypothetical discussion. Let's say Clinton Trump gets elected. Let's say she balances the budget. Let's say the economy improves. Let's say she doesn't take your guns. Will the right left be happy for our country ? Doubtful in my opinion.

No doubt, if I could accurately predict the future, I'd already be a wealthy man.   So far, that hasn't worked out for me.

As you can see, I modified your post.   We really don't know what's going to happen but, we do know who the proven liar is,  you know, the one with the "private AND public" thoughts.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

Predicting the future is problematic. At least for me. But for the sake of a hypothetical discussion. Let's say Clinton Trump gets elected. Let's say she balances the budget. Let's say the economy improves. Let's say she doesn't take your guns. Will the right left be happy for our country ? Doubtful in my opinion.

No doubt, if I could accurately predict the future, I'd already be a wealthy man.   So far, that hasn't worked out for me.

As you can see, I modified your post.   We really don't know what's going to happen but, we do know who the proven liar is,  you know, the one with the "private AND public" thoughts.  

No hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question ?

[Patrick]

Predicting the future is problematic. At least for me. But for the sake of a hypothetical discussion. Let's say Clinton Trump gets elected. Let's say she balances the budget. Let's say the economy improves. Let's say she doesn't take your guns. Will the right left be happy for our country ? Doubtful in my opinion.

No doubt, if I could accurately predict the future, I'd already be a wealthy man.   So far, that hasn't worked out for me.

As you can see, I modified your post.   We really don't know what's going to happen but, we do know who the proven liar is,  you know, the one with the "private AND public" thoughts.  

No hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question ?

If she is elected and does all that plus fix the radical muslim problem then I'll buy and wear a pair of rose colored glasses and become a liberal democrat. But since I'm not into hypotheticals,,,,,

[Moonshot_1]

Predicting the future is problematic. At least for me. But for the sake of a hypothetical discussion. Let's say Clinton gets elected. Let's say she balances the budget. Let's say the economy improves. Let's say she doesn't take your guns. Will the right be happy for our country ? Doubtful in my opinion.

[/quote]

We won't get the chance to be happy. The Democrats would impeach her long before she could make the right happy.

[Moonshot_1]

I will accept the results of the election when the integrity of the election is verified , the legal challenges are exhausted, or Hillary concedes.

[old2soon]

I didn't vote.  Like Trump, I will wait and see what happens.  If massive or widespread fraud occurs and can be proven, I would like that fraud negated.

I would certainly prefer that any and all irregularities be remedied before the election, and I would hate like hell to go through another election decided in the courts, but I sure don't want an election result based on fraud (assuming it's close enough that fraud actually effected the outcome).

I have never accepted Zero as MY president and I will never accept HRC as my president.  I am against them as enemies of my country every bit as much as Hitler, Stalin and Mao (the only difference being that those men wanted to destroy my county from without, while these so-called presidents would do so from within).

God Bless the USA, God Damn all leftist tyrants (and RHINOs and the Free crap Army too) who would forever change my country from what the Constitution and our founding fathers intended.

Give me liberty, or give me death.  

                           

[Pappy!]

I didn't vote.  Like Trump, I will wait and see what happens.  If massive or widespread fraud occurs and can be proven, I would like that fraud negated.

I would certainly prefer that any and all irregularities be remedied before the election, and I would hate like hell to go through another election decided in the courts, but I sure don't want an election result based on fraud (assuming it's close enough that fraud actually effected the outcome).

I have never accepted Zero as MY president and I will never accept HRC as my president.  I am against them as enemies of my country every bit as much as Hitler, Stalin and Mao (the only difference being that those men wanted to destroy my county from without, while these so-called presidents would do so from within).

God Bless the USA, God Damn all leftist tyrants (and RHINOs and the Free crap Army too) who would forever change my country from what the Constitution and our founding fathers intended.

Give me liberty, or give me death.  

                           

Ditto.

[Oss]

Back in the day............

I mean the 1st election after Washinton 1st took office it was many months before inauguration

It took that long to count the paper ballots

There is something to be said for that

There was fraud even back in the early 1800's   Kansas for instance or what was to become Kansas comes to mind

The bigger question to me is will the dark forces eliminate any other winner than HRC down the road, like Kennedy got taken out.

I cant imagine a world where HRC gets to finish a first term either
because of her health.

[Rams]

voting closes Tuesday Nov 8 this yr.

Yes, voting does take place for the election on 8 November.
But, this poll closes on 5 November.   As I remember, that's as far as I could go out.
Hey, I don't make the rules, I just push the envelope.   

[scooperhsd]

If you're not going to accept the results of the election on (IMO) Trump's inevitable defeat (only thing left to find out is the margin) - You might as well move  / expatriate yourself to some other country. Go to Eastern Europe - where it's only been the last 10-15 years that they have had anything resembling our elections and tell me how you like the way elections are "won" or "lost".  Some of our South American neighbor's have similar issues.

In case you're all bent out of shape on that prognosis - I don't like either of them either. Wife showed me an interesting article from "The Federalist" that 7 states could concievably deny the election to both Trump AND Clinton, thereby throwing it into the House of Representatives (who aren't very "represntative" IMO either).  Imagine the quandry a republican faces - Trump (who's been trying to sabotage the republican party this whole election), HRC (a not much better choice), or maybe some 3rd party candidate. I can see myself voting this way out of spite for the 2 major candidates.

"May you live in interesting times" - it's about to get that way, for at least the next 4 years. Maybe by then the major parties can figure out how to get relevant again.

[Atl-Jerry]

voting closes Tuesday Nov 8 this yr.

No, that has changed due to anticipated overwhelming turnout.  Voting has been split into two days, Republicans will vote on 8 Nov and democrats will vote on 9 Nov.  Spread the word. 

[mike72903]

Voted to accept. As much as I believe Trump is possibly the worst kind of person to be an effective political leader I have enough trust in the system to acknowledge the will of the majority.  The Republican Party has been using scare tactics for years to question the integrity of the voter system.  Evidently to some success among some folks . It's too bad.  Trust is everything in relationships at all levels of human endeavors including and especially a Democracy.
I'll be casting my votes for candidates of both parties on Monday morning when early voting opens here.

[Rams]

Voted to accept. As much as I believe Trump is possibly the worst kind of person to be an effective political leader I have enough trust in the system to acknowledge the will of the majority.  The Republican Party has been using scare tactics for years to question the integrity of the voter system.  Evidently to some success among some folks . It's too bad.  Trust is everything in relationships at all levels of human endeavors including and especially a Democracy.
I'll be casting my votes for candidates of both parties on Monday morning when early voting opens here.

Glad to learn you have faith in the system.

You blame the Republicans for the voter fraud?   Do you also blame Republicans for Hillary's emails or just for them being made public?   For Pay to Play?   Ask Bernie Sanders about how fair the process was to him.   The list is almost endless.   All Republican's fault?   The irony is overwhelming.

[art]

Voted already and not for hildabeast.As to the current administration I have tried to ignore it for 8 years I can't stand him an as to his old lady I will not say what I think of her.

[mike72903]

Voted to accept. As much as I believe Trump is possibly the worst kind of person to be an effective political leader I have enough trust in the system to acknowledge the will of the majority.  The Republican Party has been using scare tactics for years to question the integrity of the voter system.  Evidently to some success among some folks . It's too bad.  Trust is everything in relationships at all levels of human endeavors including and especially a Democracy.
I'll be casting my votes for candidates of both parties on Monday morning when early voting opens here.

Glad to learn you have faith in the system.

You blame the Republicans for the voter fraud?   Do you also blame Republicans for Hillary's emails or just for them being made public?   For Pay to Play?   Ask Bernie Sanders about how fair the process was to him.   The list is almost endless.   All Republican's fault?   The irony is overwhelming.

oh please don't get overwhelmed. I didn't blame anyone for voter fraud. And yes I do have faith in our system because I live in the real world instead of the fantasy world created by right wing media hellbent on demonizing non adherents to their hate and paranoia. 

[Rams]

Voted to accept. As much as I believe Trump is possibly the worst kind of person to be an effective political leader I have enough trust in the system to acknowledge the will of the majority.  The Republican Party has been using scare tactics for years to question the integrity of the voter system.  Evidently to some success among some folks . It's too bad.  Trust is everything in relationships at all levels of human endeavors including and especially a Democracy.
I'll be casting my votes for candidates of both parties on Monday morning when early voting opens here.

Glad to learn you have faith in the system.

You blame the Republicans for the voter fraud?   Do you also blame Republicans for Hillary's emails or just for them being made public?   For Pay to Play?   Ask Bernie Sanders about how fair the process was to him.   The list is almost endless.   All Republican's fault?   The irony is overwhelming.

oh please don't get overwhelmed. I didn't blame anyone for voter fraud. And yes I do have faith in our system because I live in the real world instead of the fantasy world created by right wing media hellbent on demonizing non adherents to their hate and paranoia. 

OK, gotcha.       The Republicans did it.   

[baldo]

Voted to accept. As much as I believe Trump is possibly the worst kind of person to be an effective political leader I have enough trust in the system to acknowledge the will of the majority.  The Republican Party has been using scare tactics for years to question the integrity of the voter system.  Evidently to some success among some folks . It's too bad.  Trust is everything in relationships at all levels of human endeavors including and especially a Democracy.
I'll be casting my votes for candidates of both parties on Monday morning when early voting opens here.

Glad to learn you have faith in the system.

You blame the Republicans for the voter fraud?   Do you also blame Republicans for Hillary's emails or just for them being made public?   For Pay to Play?   Ask Bernie Sanders about how fair the process was to him.   The list is almost endless.   All Republican's fault?   The irony is overwhelming.

oh please don't get overwhelmed. I didn't blame anyone for voter fraud. And yes I do have faith in our system because I live in the real world instead of the fantasy world created by right wing media hellbent on demonizing non adherents to their hate and paranoia. 

OK, gotcha.       The Republicans did it.   

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-voter-fraud-trump-the-five_us_5807201ae4b0b994d4c2916c

[Rams]

Voted to accept. As much as I believe Trump is possibly the worst kind of person to be an effective political leader I have enough trust in the system to acknowledge the will of the majority.  The Republican Party has been using scare tactics for years to question the integrity of the voter system.  Evidently to some success among some folks . It's too bad.  Trust is everything in relationships at all levels of human endeavors including and especially a Democracy.
I'll be casting my votes for candidates of both parties on Monday morning when early voting opens here.

Glad to learn you have faith in the system.

You blame the Republicans for the voter fraud?   Do you also blame Republicans for Hillary's emails or just for them being made public?   For Pay to Play?   Ask Bernie Sanders about how fair the process was to him.   The list is almost endless.   All Republican's fault?   The irony is overwhelming.

oh please don't get overwhelmed. I didn't blame anyone for voter fraud. And yes I do have faith in our system because I live in the real world instead of the fantasy world created by right wing media hellbent on demonizing non adherents to their hate and paranoia. 

OK, gotcha.       The Republicans did it.   

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-voter-fraud-trump-the-five_us_5807201ae4b0b994d4c2916c

Oh, I'd agree that there isn't that much voter fraud.
Would you agree that the media has been biased during this election campaign?

[Moonshot_1]

Voted to accept. As much as I believe Trump is possibly the worst kind of person to be an effective political leader I have enough trust in the system to acknowledge the will of the majority.  The Republican Party has been using scare tactics for years to question the integrity of the voter system.  Evidently to some success among some folks . It's too bad.  Trust is everything in relationships at all levels of human endeavors including and especially a Democracy.
I'll be casting my votes for candidates of both parties on Monday morning when early voting opens here.

Don't think the Washington times is a Republican using scare tactics.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/

Sure this is just a small handful but obviously not all. Just some of the ones caught.

The idea that we can blindly have faith in the integrity of the voting system and our Democracy is lunacy. This takes work and vigilance. This is about raw power on a global scale. History is wrought with tales of tyranny.

I have great faith in the principle of Democracy and this Republic. But the system requires vigilance. It needs to be vetted and verified at every step of the process. To maintain the Integrity of the system demands such vigilance and verification.

To suggest otherwise is to ignore the assaults on the Integrity of our voting system and be a partner in such tyranny.

We need to recognize these assaults and put them down. Hard.

We have seen people in the DNC pay people for inciting riots at political events.
Seen them provide instructions on voter registration fraud.
Seen them undermine ONE OF THEIR OWN CANDIDATES.
We've seen report after report of political corruption. And this on both sides of the aisle for decades.

But sure, no one would possibly and intentional undermine our system. Nothing to see here at all.

[Rams]

But sure, no one would possibly and intentional undermine our system. Nothing to see here at all.

Moonshot,
Apparently, you don't understand, it's all a Republican conspiracy.  

OK, I'll admit it, I wrote and planned the emails and then authorized WikiLeaks to let it out.  
Won't take the blame for Bengazi though, I could and would not have let those guys die without sending in the help that was available.   That one is on you know who.

Then again, what does it matter now?

[Moonshot_1]

But sure, no one would possibly and intentional undermine our system. Nothing to see here at all.

Moonshot,
Apparently, you don't understand, it's all a Republican conspiracy.  

OK, I'll admit it, I wrote and planned the emails and then authorized WikiLeaks to let it out.  
Won't take the blame for Bengazi though, I could and would not have let those guys die without sending in the help that was available.   That one is on you know who.

Then again, what does it matter now?

YOU RUSSIAN BASTARD!

Everything is ok till the Russians mess it up.

[mike72903]

I agree it takes vigilance.  I also think that the media isn't so much biased toward HC as horrified at DT.

[mike72903]

I agree it takes vigilance.  I also think that the media isn't so much biased toward HC as horrified at DT.

[bagelboy]

Literally just got back from a carry permit course 5 minutes ago. The course was packed, and believe it or not, women were outnumbering men 2 to 1. Of course, everyone eventually got to talking how they were getting their permits before Hillary gets in and changes things. I don't know what's going to happen, and I think the odds are highly stacked against Trump, but myself and others are trying to exercise our 2nd amendment rights while they are still able to be excersised.

[Rams]

I agree it takes vigilance.  I also think that the media isn't so much biased toward HC as horrified at DT.

I agree on vigilance and will take your statement of the coverage as an admission that the media has not been fair handed nor neutral.    IMHO, the media has been very lopsided in favor of Hillary.

Don't take my statements toward this as me being Pro-Anyone and will readily admit I'm Anti-Clinton.

[Rams]

Regardless of the devisive statements that have been made, I'm going to bump this back to the top hoping more folks will chime in.   I do not expect the results of this poll to reflect the outcome of the election but, it does say something about the folks on this board.

So far, the results have been interesting.................   

[Gavin_Sons]

I'll never accept HDR as my president or the president of the USA no matter what her title says.she can kiss my ass