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Moonshot_1
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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2016, 07:05:15 AM »

... the electors are not Constitutionally bound to cast their vote for their State's choice. The electors are simply given the responsibility of going to Washington to cast their vote.
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I guess by absolutely wild speculation it is possible although nothing remotely close has happened in the past.

About half the states do have laws binding their electors to vote as the state voted.  Interestingly, of those that do not have a legal binding sixteen voted for Donald Trump and their votes amount to a whopping 161.  To reverse the election we would have to see a change from the one or two who have very rarely cast faithless votes to about twenty percent of the ones who can.  I think the chances are slimmer than slim.

It's my understanding they don't gather to vote in Washington but that they cast their votes from their own state capitals.

As I mentioned we are talking parallel universe events here. Beyond rare.

Yes, there are legal mechanisms that can bind electors to their vote. But they are not Constitutional mandates. They, as you have said, are State and even Political Party mechanisms. (Fines and sanctions) The Constitutionality of these have rarely been challenged. However, in the rare event where an Elector chooses to reverse their vote, I do believe the vote would stand regardless of the fine or sanction.
I know that the Supreme Court has found that such fines and sanctions levied by States are Constitutional but I believe the actual vote "change" would stand.

Yes the votes are cast from their States. Officially counted in Washington.
I thought they were cast at a joint session. They are counted there.
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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2016, 10:00:46 AM »

What I still read has Trump ahead by 600,000-700,000 popular votes. Seems like that should stand, but, it'll be close to a year for the final number to come out.
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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2016, 10:21:06 AM »

What I still read has Trump ahead by 600,000-700,000 popular votes. Seems like that should stand, but, it'll be close to a year for the final number to come out.
Where did you get that ? Everything I've seen has her ahead by 1.2 million votes and climbing.
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Wizzard
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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2016, 10:30:13 AM »

What difference does it make?
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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2016, 10:43:35 AM »

What difference does it make?

no difference at all, she lost he won. hahahahahahahahaha  laugh
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« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2016, 11:06:00 AM »

What difference does it make?
It makes none. Just trying to correct some inaccuracies .
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« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2016, 11:10:05 AM »

What I still read has Trump ahead by 600,000-700,000 popular votes. Seems like that should stand, but, it'll be close to a year for the final number to come out.
Google had an extreme right wing site putting out false numbers.  Its fairly clear she will retain the popular vote.  Maybe she can go cry on Al Gore's shoulder.  He suffered the same frustration.  He never got over it, she probably will never get over it either.

You wait, years from now she will still be saying she was the first woman to be elected to the office even though she lost, just like Mr "I invented the internet" Gore.  Ive heard him being introduced before a speech as the elected President of the United States.  They are pretty much cry babies just like their followers.
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« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2016, 11:34:40 AM »

Google had an extreme right wing site putting out false numbers.

Not for much longer: both Facebook and Google this week announced a new initiative to crack down on fake "news" outlets by blocking their ad feed cash-cow

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+fake+news&t=ffsb&ia=news

As of 8:24AM November 16, UPI reports that Hillary Clinton is ahead by 1,000,000 votes

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/11/16/Hillary-Clinton-surpasses-1M-popular-vote-lead-over-Donald-Trump/6201479299669/?spt=hrs&or=1

but the fake news swindlers are on double-overtime, attempting to rewrite truth into something more..."palatable".
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« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2016, 12:14:10 PM »

Google had an extreme right wing site putting out false numbers.

Not for much longer: both Facebook and Google this week announced a new initiative to crack down on fake "news" outlets by blocking their ad feed cash-cow

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+fake+news&t=ffsb&ia=news

As of 8:24AM November 16, UPI reports that Hillary Clinton is ahead by 1,000,000 votes

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/11/16/Hillary-Clinton-surpasses-1M-popular-vote-lead-over-Donald-Trump/6201479299669/?spt=hrs&or=1

but the fake news swindlers are on double-overtime, attempting to rewrite truth into something more..."palatable".


I kind of doubt that its only "right wing"  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2016, 12:22:43 PM »

I kind of doubt that its only "right wing"  Roll Eyes
At no time did I assign a political side to the fake news broadcasts.

Both Google and Facebook state that they will be careful and uniform in the application of their blocks, both liberal and conservative, when it comes to politics.
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« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2016, 01:55:00 PM »

I kind of doubt that its only "right wing"  Roll Eyes
At no time did I assign a political side to the fake news broadcasts.

Both Google and Facebook state that they will be careful and uniform in the application of their blocks, both liberal and conservative, when it comes to politics.

Just yesterday Zuckerberg was being a bit of a douche, claiming that in no way was FB complicit in spreading false political BS. It would appear that he's had a change of heart.
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