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Started by da prez, Tue 29, Nov 2016, 08:55:00

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Quote from: Serk on Tue 29, Nov 2016, 09:03:22
NOTHING could desecrate the flag, and all that it stands for, more than banning desecration of it.


Exactly!!


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DK

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Quote from: Serk on Tue 29, Nov 2016, 09:53:43
Quote from: da prez on Tue 29, Nov 2016, 09:38:18
  Serk , explain.

                                        da prez

The flag stands for freedom.

Freedom allows one to do distasteful things.

If we're truly free, then people must be free to do distasteful things.

Banning speech, which is what banning flag desecration is, goes against the very fabric of our nation, freedom, which includes the freedom to be an idiot and do repugnant things.

I accept I'm in the minority on this one, but if we don't have freedom to be an idiot, we don't really have freedom at all.


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Gavin_Sons

Quote from: Pete on Tue 29, Nov 2016, 20:21:09
"The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, ensuring that there is no prohibition on the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances."

Nothing in the first amendment allows an action of burning the flag.

Yes I understand the court, stretched the meaning of the word speech to mean freedom of expression.
The court needs to stop changing the meaning of words just to justify their findings.

You may talk about burning anything you want, that is freedom of speech, but when you burn it, it is an action, unless you start the fire with your words.

And actions have consequences - or at least should have.

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